It's also not a last minute suspicion, TW has recognised FB's unusual behaviour (and MK's, of course) since Day 5 here.

Vote Count:

Finster Baby (2): brewersalliance, Lyner,
brewersalliance (1): Finster Baby
Lyner (0): 
Robert2424 (0):  

No Lynch (0):

 

Not Voting: Robert2424,

With 4 alive, it takes 3 to lynch, or 2 at deadline.
Deadline is Wednesday, October 7 at 12:00 EDT.

Fine then. If Finster Baby isn't scum, I will hate you lyner and TW and blame you for the lose. 

 

Vote Finster Baby

 

That should end the day and decide the outcome. If it is Brewers, Your unwilling to lynch him will only cost more games. 

Uhh that's pretty strong wording there robert lol it's just a game

 

Thanks for the win I was scum

gg brewers

 

 

 

Fine then. If Finster Baby isn't scum, I will hate you lyner and TW and blame you for the lose. 

 

Vote Finster Baby

 

That should end the day and decide the outcome. If it is Brewers, Your unwilling to lynch him will only cost more games. 

Well that's not fair. We were trying to convince each other here, regardless of the result. Should I blame all of you for not lynching Brewers day 1? 

Thanks @robert for voting finster btw

 

I've still never been lynched haha gotta keep that streak alive. 3 years and counting

Vote Count:

Finster Baby (3): brewersalliance, Lyner, Robert2424,
brewersalliance (1): Finster Baby
Lyner (0): 
Robert2424 (0):  

No Lynch (0):

 

Finster Baby, Mafia Goon, has been lynched.

Town wins!

uh

 

screw you brewers lol

Lol I just wanted to see robert rage 🤣🤣🤣

Was hoping he would post before kevin updated the game

Good game all. 

 

The mob lost when Ferastical discovered Velocity.  We had been alternating turns doing kills and with a lot of heat on me from the day, we thought using Velocity to do the kill would be the better play.  Ferastical guessed right and then when Velocity couldn't counter it was pretty much game over, along with me being unable to convince Robert to keep hounding brewers. I gladly would have taken another RNG shot.

 

Fuck Rafay.  Your gameplay style disgusts me and certainly shows no skill at all.

 

I almost got it!

Yeah when it was down to the end I thought for sure RNG was gonna be in play. It was def the right kill for u on the last night there with how hard Robert was swinging for me all game. I was beyond shocked when he voted you over me lol

Thank god, I was really worried we were about to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory lol. Big props to Finster for making it this far and nearly winning it though. That was really smart to keep Rafay and then brewers alive, and it almost worked.

 

MVP for me is Ferastical. I don't think anyone would've figured out Velocity if it wasn't for him, and that basically turned it from a likely close mafia win to a likely heavily town sided win in one play. LVP is obviously Rafay who has now been lynched in three straight games over the exact same suspicious play, even though he was only mafia once (and not this game, obviously).

 

I'm curious if ABT had any information he was holding onto before he was night killed. I remember thinking one of the JOATs should've considered revealing when MK was about to die if they did know anything useful, just to try to keep the ball rolling and avoid losing everything they had. It's obviously a tough call though so I understand trying to hold on until MK was confirmed scum.

 

Oh also I'm really sad I got killed N1. I wrote down my guesses for mafia and JOATs after I found out I was dead and ended up getting two of the three mafia right (MK was way too obvious to me, and I thought Finster was more obvious too but he played really well) and guessed that Ferastical was one of the JOATs too. Thankfully town got the W anyway though

Thank god, I was really worried we were about to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory lol. Big props to Finster for making it this far and nearly winning it though. That was really smart to keep Rafay and then brewers alive, and it almost worked.

 

MVP for me is Ferastical. I don't think anyone would've figured out Velocity if it wasn't for him, and that basically turned it from a likely close mafia win to a likely heavily town sided win in one play. LVP is obviously Rafay who has now been lynched in three straight games over the exact same suspicious play, even though he was only mafia once (and not this game, obviously).

 

I'm curious if ABT had any information he was holding onto before he was night killed. I remember thinking one of the JOATs should've considered revealing when MK was about to die if they did know anything useful, just to try to keep the ball rolling and avoid losing everything they had. It's obviously a tough call though so I understand trying to hold on until MK was confirmed scum.

The plan from the start was for me to try and distance myself as best as possible. It was in case somebody implicated finster or MK, I was going to ask FB to do the kill that night but he was the more likely target so I took the risk haha

 

When Ferastical claimed as a JOAT I figured my only options were to counterclaim as the other JOAT and maybe save a day, or just hope i can convince everyone he was wrong. Unfortunately, I was busy and couldn’t think of a way to counter it so I just waited it out.

The only way to disincentivise Rafay's playing style is to lynch inactives early, guys

 

Bragging time:

I'm keeping my vote so I can "told you so" later

Told you so     

Good job pulling it out at the end guys. It became fairly clear that the final scum was either Rafay or Finster. Lyner recalling MK drawing attention to Rafay is what sealed it for me.

 

Also, I think it's safe to say that we are clearly better than the mafia championship guys. They opted to lynch on day 1's and got their asses beat at a ridiculous clip. We very wisely played the numbers and opted to no lynch for two days to start the game. This was clearly the superior strategy. Anyone who thought otherwise was completely ignoring the statistics that were in no way ambiguous.

[KH-21] JOAT^2 - TOWN (Ali bin Turban, brewersalliance, Ferastical, ghaws, Lilweirdward, Lyner, Rafay, Robert2424, The Warrior, Tony Maurice, Torres951, Wolfpacks)
 
Scum topic: https://www.quicktopic.com/53/H/XqaWk45hfNRe6
 
Summary:
 
Day 1

• No lynch

Night 1

• Finster Baby kills lilweirdward
• Ali bin Turban tracks Torres951
• Ferastical motion detects Ali bin Turban (Ferastical knows Ali bin Turban is either JOAT or Mafia Goon)

Day 2

• No lynch

Night 2

• Velocity kills Torres951
• Ali bin Turban motion detects Robert2424 (Ali bin Turban knows Robert didn't kill Torres)
• Ferastical tracks Ali bin Turban (Ferastical knows AbT is the other JOAT) 

Day 3

• Tony Maurice lynched

Night 3

• Velocity tries to kill Robert2424 but fails
• Ali bin Turban protects Robert2424
• Ferastical protects Ali bin Turban

Day 4

• Wolfpacks lynched

Night 4

• Finster Baby kills ghaws
• Ali bin Turban tracks ghaws
• Ferastical motion detects Rafay (Ferastical knows Rafay didn't kill ghaws)

Day 5

• Lord MK lynched

Night 5

• Velocity kills Ali bin Turban
• Ali bin Turban protects Robert2424
• Ferastical tracks Velocity (Ferastical knows Velocity must be scum)

​Day 6

• Velocity lynched (Ferastical should have posted his other results, knowing he would probably be killed)

Night 6

• Finster Baby kills Ferastical
• Ferastical protects The Warrior

Day 7

• Rafay lynched (random choice over Finster Baby)

Night 7

• Finster Baby kills The Warrior

Day 8

• Finster Baby lynched

Also, I think it's safe to say that we are clearly better than the mafia championship guys. They opted to lynch on day 1's and got their asses beat at a ridiculous clip. We very wisely played the numbers and opted to no lynch for two days to start the game. This was clearly the superior strategy. Anyone who thought otherwise was completely ignoring the statistics that were in no way ambiguous.

 

Champions drool, IRON forums rule! Huzzah!   

 

GG everyone! I was rather surprised to receive the JOAT role, but I guess everything worked out in the end. It was pretty hilarious how I stumbled onto AbT N1 and probably saved him on N3, unless he managed to save someone else, dunno. Voted on Wolfpacks cuz I thought AbT had some information I didn't. Tracked Velocity cuz I hadn't heard from him for ages, tried to save TW on the last night, cuz I thought the remaining scum (Finster) would assume I'd be using the Doc ability on myself and was fairly certain TW was playing for the interests of town. 

 

Rafay hasn't been giving his best lately, I can see potential, but not a lot of action. Sad   

 

EDIT: Alright, seems that AbT did his part in protecting the town. Cheers!

Interesting, so Ferastical pretty much played as well as you can have played as a JOAT, and AbT got really unlucky to never catch anything meaningful.

 

Also this quote by Kevin from the QT was interesting

 

For the record, I would have advocated a lynch on Day 1 since the odds are slim that the JOATs will get any useful information.

I agreed at the time but the logic was maybe wrong since the strategy to reduce kills and increase total days actually did work. Would be interesting to see if it would work over multiple games.

I edited the summary to change Night 2.  It was AbT that knew Robert didn't kill Torres.

@Velocity, was your reasoning for killing me rooted in your role in my game?

@Velocity, was your reasoning for killing me rooted in your role in my game?

Wasn’t my call, I was just the one picked to do the deed. I wasn’t saying no, though

@Velocity, was your reasoning for killing me rooted in your role in my game?

Kills were decided by whatever mafia was alive at the time after deliberation.  As I mentioned earlier, Velocity and I alternated, for the most part, the kills.

GG everyone. It was fun to play. Also thanks KevinH for hosting (and especially for choosing a game that's not overloaded with power roles). 

 

BTW, it's so funny to see how others think so differently. I was expecting mafia to look for JOATs and I thought of myself as being too loud to be JOAT. But you weren't even looking for them . And I got a weird case of chosing targets, that also were targeted by scum. I checked Tracked torres, he died next day, I checked Robert, he was attacked next day, I checked Ghaws and he died the same day. 

Well, had we gotten any clear indication of anyone was a JOAT, we'd have targeted them immediately.  Your comments and analytics during the game had me a touch on the suspicious side.  Both of you did a good job of being quiet until you had something to add.  (AbT didn't get much of a chance to tell his findings, tho.)

 

Ferastical had to know he was dead as soon as he announced.  There was no way I was going to let him track me, especially after he announced he was JOAT.

 

I didn't see a need to force a JOAT to reveal himself.  I was perfectly content to frame Ferastical as scum (as was happening before he found Velocity), and we got lucky when we got AbT.

 

Good fun tho.

lol thats bad luck.

 

with this game, it has now been  three years of playing mafia for me.  so this is a bit of a milestone.  three years without ever being lynched.  Has to be some sort of record lol

i did get very nervous at the end there with robert.  thought my streak might end on a randomizer lol

 

i would have been a little upset