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[brewersalliance]

Did you forget about this post? https://ironcentral.org/community/topic/64618-ro-03dawn-of-justice-mafia-survivor-victory/page-15#entry1008082

Wait, we're using posts in different game threads to provide for our scum reads now? Seems just like brewers specifically went out of his way to dig up something to put the spotlight on Lyner... You can't compare people to machines and expect them to use the same strategy all the time. Different setups, different players, tons of posts to look upon, every situation is different.

Vote -> Brewersalliance

There is a difference between changing your strategy and going

My defualt is to vote inactives/voting inactives=scum

That's not changing a strategy, that's having two entirely different philosophies and directly contradicting oneself

[Wolfpacks]

Just chatting but im out for the next couple of hours icheck all later

[Ali bin Turban]

Over the top/nervous? All I did was point out how scum typically like to join in the middle of a wagon and how there is currently a form a wagon on Brewer's in every single game trend going. Wouldn't you be frustrated if every single game you played recently people just decided to keep voting you, usually for no reason at all? Lol It used to be I was night killed day 1 or two every single game for about a year and a half. And now it's form a wagon on Brewers right out of the gate for no reason lol so yes, I'm irritated. Tho aparently I'm not allowed to be irritated when these constant trends keep happening.

 

 

Don't blame me. I believe that's my very first vote on you and you were as good to poke as anyone else. I didn't realize that you were a victim of such cruel treatment in the past. That explains your nervousness... and sort of suggests your "very strong scum hunting track record" is just a product of your imagination. You can't hunt scums, if you're getting killed so early every single game, can you?. 

 

Anyway I'm going to ease your heart for now, since it explains your behavior. 

 

Unvote

 

And wagon jumping excuse? What are you talking about lol. I haven't been wagon jumping. I suggested no Lynch because in every single game where a Lynch is happening town has been getting destroyed. But hey if you think that we are gonna play better as a town than the last 11 games, more power to you. I don't share those same hopes, hence my no lunch suggestion. So if anything now you're creating lies to try to get me lynched. I don't know tho if that means you're scum. You made shit up and lied to get LWW lynched in my game going on right now, and just so happened to get lucky and Lynch a scum player. So I guess ABT straight up lying and misstating facts isn't a direct indication that he's scum.

 

I didn't say you were jumping wagons. I said you came up with such simplistic wagon jumping theory (second person on a wagon = must be scum) as an atempt to justify voting on me. 

There are no lies here, just reading comprehension problem. 

I'm not going comment on your GoT game, because since it's still going it wouldn't be fair and secondly given your emotional state, I don't expect you to be unprejudiced. I'll just leave at it, that you're wrong. 

 

Secondly if you really think those 11 games were lost because town didn't vote no lynch, then you straight up treat those players as idiots. Loosing so badly, when they could use one simple trick and win the game...right? 

Numbers dont lie, D1 lynch was more optimal approach, but still it's not something that decides the fate of the game. There are so many other factors in play and a simple luck that can heavily distort such a small sample. But really, I see no point in discussing it now.

[Ali bin Turban]

Well, AbT is getting good at the lying game, perhaps even able to stand up to Limey Lyner himself, i give you that.

 

 

Care to explain what are those lies? I'm very interested to hear, if you have something substantial to say or are you just cynicaly trying to ride on the wave of brewers frustration? 

 

ABT jumped on the wagon. Cause he has a bone to pick with you.

 

And this one to. I'd be glad to learn what is that bone about.

[brewersalliance]

Over the top/nervous? All I did was point out how scum typically like to join in the middle of a wagon and how there is currently a form a wagon on Brewer's in every single game trend going. Wouldn't you be frustrated if every single game you played recently people just decided to keep voting you, usually for no reason at all? Lol It used to be I was night killed day 1 or two every single game for about a year and a half. And now it's form a wagon on Brewers right out of the gate for no reason lol so yes, I'm irritated. Tho aparently I'm not allowed to be irritated when these constant trends keep happening.

Don't blame me. I believe that's my very first vote on you and you were as good to poke as anyone else. I didn't realize that you were a victim of such cruel treatment in the past. That explains your nervousness... and sort of suggests your "very strong scum hunting track record" is just a product of your imagination. You can't hunt scums, if you're getting killed so early every single game, can you?.

Anyway I'm going to ease your heart for now, since it explains your behavior.

Unvote

And wagon jumping excuse? What are you talking about lol. I haven't been wagon jumping. I suggested no Lynch because in every single game where a Lynch is happening town has been getting destroyed. But hey if you think that we are gonna play better as a town than the last 11 games, more power to you. I don't share those same hopes, hence my no lunch suggestion. So if anything now you're creating lies to try to get me lynched. I don't know tho if that means you're scum. You made shit up and lied to get LWW lynched in my game going on right now, and just so happened to get lucky and Lynch a scum player. So I guess ABT straight up lying and misstating facts isn't a direct indication that he's scum.

I didn't say you were jumping wagons. I said you came up with such simplistic wagon jumping theory (second person on a wagon = must be scum) as an atempt to justify voting on me.
There are no lies here, just reading comprehension problem.
I'm not going comment on your GoT game, because since it's still going it wouldn't be fair and secondly given your emotional state, I don't expect you to be unprejudiced. I'll just leave at it, that you're wrong.

Secondly if you really think those 11 games were lost because town didn't vote no lynch, then you straight up treat those players as idiots. Loosing so badly, when they could use one simple trick and win the game...right?
Numbers dont lie, D1 lynch was more optimal approach, but still it's not something that decides the fate of the game. There are so many other factors in play and a simple luck that can heavily distort such a small sample. But really, I see no point in discussing it now.

Oh my bad sorry I misread your post then about the wagon jumping. I thought u we're saying I was jumping from wagon to wagon. That's on me. And yeah we already did the no Lynch so discussing the merits of should we or shouldn't we is a bit pointless now. We can do it again next game

[brewersalliance]

and sort of suggests your "very strong scum hunting track record" is just a product of your imagination.

 

 

you are correct.  in my last two games as a townie, nailing 5 of the 6 scum players on day 2 totally happened in my mind and def did not happen in the games.  thank you for pointing that out to me 

[ghaws]

Brewers can you pm me the link of that game or something coz that sounds hells impressive I wanna see how things went on in that game honestly

[brewersalliance]

Brewers can you pm me the link of that game or something coz that sounds hells impressive I wanna see how things went on in that game honestly

we actually lost cause TW shaded the scum green instead of red well thats not the only reason town lost haha

[Velocity]

Reading up on what’s been said, I know I’ve said things in one game and gone back on them in another like Lyner did, based on circumstance, but I can’t ignore that.

As far as other people under fire go, I don’t think lynching BA is going to really get us anywhere but worse off.

[Finster Baby]

Wow.  Busy day at work and this happens.

 

I'm still not sure why so much shade is being thrown at Brewers. 

[Lord MK]

Well, AbT is getting good at the lying game, perhaps even able to stand up to Limey Lyner himself, i give you that.

Care to explain what are those lies? I'm very interested to hear, if you have something substantial to say or are you just cynicaly trying to ride on the wave of brewers frustration?

ABT jumped on the wagon. Cause he has a bone to pick with you.

And this one to. I'd be glad to learn what is that bone about.

Well, one is no lynch is not always a bad strategy as you suggested.
Two, is fabrication, not necessarily in this game.
So I'm not going to comment further on that, but you know exactly what I'm referring to.


And about the issue you have with brewers, how should i know?
It just seems to a third party observer that you are genuinely upset with brewers.

[KevinH]

Vote Count:

brewersalliance (3): Robert2424, Lyner, Ferastical,
Lyner (3): brewersalliance, Lord MK, Tony Maurice, 
Robert2424 (1): Rafay, 
Rafay (1): Wolfpacks,
Tony Maurice (0): 
Ali bin Turban (0):
Finster Baby (0):
Ferastical (0):
ghaws (0):
Lord MK (0):
The Warrior (0):
Torres951 (0):
Velocity (0):
Wolfpacks (0):

No Lynch (0):

 

Not Voting: The Warrior, Finster Baby, Velocity, ghaws, Torres951, Ali bin Turban,

With 14 alive it takes 8 to lynch, or 4 at deadline.
Deadline is Saturday, August 29 at 23:59 EDT.

[The Warrior]

I don’t get why people think Brewers is worthy of a lynch right now. Can those voting for him please explain your reasoning? I’m not seeing it currently.

[Lyner]

That was fun

 

 

Vote: Rafay

[KevinH]

Vote Count:

Lyner (3): brewersalliance, Lord MK, Tony Maurice, 
brewersalliance (2): Robert2424, Ferastical,
Rafay (2): Wolfpacks, Lyner, 
Robert2424 (1): Rafay, 
Tony Maurice (0): 
Ali bin Turban (0):
Finster Baby (0):
Ferastical (0):
ghaws (0):
Lord MK (0):
The Warrior (0):
Torres951 (0):
Velocity (0):
Wolfpacks (0):

No Lynch (0):

Not Voting: The Warrior, Finster Baby, Velocity, ghaws, Torres951, Ali bin Turban,

With 14 alive it takes 8 to lynch, or 4 at deadline.
Deadline is Saturday, August 29 at 23:59 EDT.

[Robert2424]

Its a Theory for me after seeing the death last night honestly TW. 

[Ferastical]

That's not changing a strategy, that's having two entirely different philosophies and directly contradicting oneself

 

What, so you don't think people can change? 

 

Going digging in other game threads to fill gaps in your scum reads might just be the most sus thing I've seen yet, or is it something that is done often? Either way, can't stand it.

[Tony Maurice]

How is it digging? That’s a recent game fresh in memory.

[Lord MK]

That's not changing a strategy, that's having two entirely different philosophies and directly contradicting oneself

What, so you don't think people can change?

Going digging in other game threads to fill gaps in your scum reads might just be the most sus thing I've seen yet, or is it something that is done often? Either way, can't stand it.

It's not digging.
It was a recent game.
Besides, some people here will not believe anything without proof.
And thus the accused will dismiss it without proof.

[Tony Maurice]

*puts hand up*