[KH-21] JOAT^2 Mafia
This game mimics Mafia Championship Season 7 as found at
https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/forums/69-Mafia-Championship-Season-7
The setup:
3x Mafia Goon
2x Town Jack Of All Trades (9x Doctor, 9x Motion Detector, 9x Tracker)
10x Vanilla Townie

The Jacks Of All Trades must use all three actions before repeating an action, i.e. they are rotating. This does not mean they must use the actions in the same order every time.

Players:
Lilweirdward, Vanilla Townie, killed Night 1
Torres951, Vanilla Townie, killed Night 2
Tony Maurice Vanilla Townie, lynched Day 3
Wolfpacks Vanilla Townie, lynched Day 4

ghaws, Vanilla Townie, killed Night 4

Lord MK, Mafia Goon, lynched Day 5

Ali bin Turban, Town Jack Of All Trades, killed Night 5
Velocity, Mafia Goon, lynched Day 6

Ferastical, Town Jack Of All Trades, killed Night 6

Rafay Vanilla Townie, lynched Day 7

The Warrior, Vanilla Townie, killed Night 7

Finster Baby, Mafia Goon, lynched Day 8

brewersalliance, Vanilla Townie
Lyner, Vanilla Townie
Robert2424, Vanilla Townie




Rules:
• During the Day phase, each player may speak and vote in-thread.
• If a player receives the majority of the available votes during the Day, they are lynched.
• At deadline, a player with half-majority will be lynched; tied votes will result in a player being lynched at random from among the tied players
• You may vote No Lynch.
• After the Day, the game goes to Night.
• The game thread is closed during the Night.
• All Active Roles may submit actions via PM at Night.
• The Mafia can, as a faction, kill one player at Night.
• Mafia factional kills are assigned; they display as an action to the Tracker and the Motion Detector actions.
• The mafia faction kill is mandatory.
• Mafia may communicate at any time.
• After the Night, the game goes to Day.
• All dead players (lynched or killed) can no longer participate in the game.
• Basic rules for maintaining the integrity of the game thread are in effect (i.e. players may not quote their Role PMs, nor may they discuss the game outside the game thread unless otherwise permitted, etc.)
• The game is won when only one faction remains in the game, or nothing can prevent the same.
• Mass role-claiming is allowed.

Game Days will last half as many real-life days as there are players alive.
Game Nights will last 48 hours.

Sample Role PM:

Hello, xxxxx
You are a Vanilla Townie
You win when all threats to the town are eliminated.

Vote ferastical.

 

 

with that being said... and I cannot believe I am doing this... 

 

Vote No Lynch

i am quoting this just so ferastical can read this brewers himself admitted at the beginning of this very game  that he never does a day 1 no lynch so bringing a quote does not really put anything new on the table everyone knows brewers hates no lynch he makes sure in his own games that no lynch is not even an option lol

 

i can see that he is contradicting his entire mafia playing style but he gave some reasoning for it as well and i do not see any reason we should hold this as any sort of evidence tbh

 

i would be more than welcome if anyone thinks otherwise to discuss it out because from the beginning of the game i am seeing a wagon of MK brewers just agreeing to each other anyways so i would like to see how that pans out if they are the detective duo or scums bringing numbers to the table

i also remember TW just did not find something as good as detective duo for 3 people lol so did not mention him

VIBE CHECK

 

Vote: ghaws

 

How is it digging? That’s a recent game fresh in memory.

 

 

That's not changing a strategy, that's having two entirely different philosophies and directly contradicting oneself

What, so you don't think people can change?

 

Going digging in other game threads to fill gaps in your scum reads might just be the most sus thing I've seen yet, or is it something that is done often? Either way, can't stand it.

It's not digging.

It was a recent game.

Besides, some people here will not believe anything without proof.

And thus the accused will dismiss it without proof.

I don't know about you, but going into another game thread to find a one-sentence post from like 2 months back, and specifically linking to it definitely fits my definition of digging. And yes, you may say it's a "recent game" and such, but I can barely remember what I had for lunch 2 days ago, how's Brewers supposed to remember what a person posted in a forum mafia game 2 months back? lol

And hey, if he somehow did, props to him. Good memory.

 

But as it so happens that you're all so cool about it, how about this...

 

Brewers, remember this post? https://ironcentral.org/community/topic/64644-tw-12-agents-of-shield-mafia-hydra-wins/?p=1006043

 

If you're, and I quote, always trying to lynch on D1... then congratulations, you're 100% contradicting yourself here.

Lol wait so shame on me for remembering players past actions from other games? And considering I said I never vote no Lynch in this game and straight up pointed out how I don't ever do this, and then proceeded to give an explaintion several times for why the change of heart for this game, you are grasping at straws here. If I just changed my entire philosophy with no reasoning at all and then after I was called out for it started to make excuses **cough cough what lyner did cough cough** that would be one thing. But that's not even remotely what happened. And u know it

So congratulations, im 0% contradicting myself

Its a Theory for me after seeing the death last night honestly TW.

Are u claiming you're a JOAT and saw the death of LWW at night?

I don’t get why people think Brewers is worthy of a lynch right now. Can those voting for him please explain your reasoning? I’m not seeing it currently.

I'm with TW here.  I can't see a reason currently why Brewers is a target.

Lol wait so shame on me for remembering players past actions from other games?

 

 

Hmm, I guess I do find it interesting that you went out of your way to search up an already finished game thread for what Lyner said, but either didn't remember or didn't bother to check this very thread... when all you needed was just sitting right there: 

 

Sir 11 data points are not stastistically significant   Also we are not that expert   But I also advocate for no lynch

 

 

Also, all you ever said about why you didn't want to lynch someone is because out of the 11 Mafia Championships games, where they lynched D1 every time, they won only 2 times. That's literally it, you doubling down on statistics! What if we continued that line of thought, eh? Let's say we don't lynch D2 also, because in every Maf Championships game they did, but they still only ended up winning 2 games?   

 

I think I just saw a cloud in the shape of a wiener and I need to go outside immediately to check it out

 

Unvote -> Brewersalliance

 

 

 

VIBE CHECK   Vote: ghaws

 

*sigh* Why?

VIBE CHECK

 

Vote: ghaws

meh i am not the scum so if u want to "vibe check" go ahead

 

Lol wait so shame on me for remembering players past actions from other games?

 

Hmm, I guess I do find it interesting that you went out of your way to search up an already finished game thread for what Lyner said, but either didn't remember or didn't bother to check this very thread... when all you needed was just sitting right there:

Sir 11 data points are not stastistically significant Also we are not that expert But I also advocate for no lynch

 

Also, all you ever said about why you didn't want to lynch someone is because out of the 11 Mafia Championships games, where they lynched D1 every time, they won only 2 times. That's literally it, you doubling down on statistics! What if we continued that line of thought, eh? Let's say we don't lynch D2 also, because in every Maf Championships game they did, but they still only ended up winning 2 games?

 

I think I just saw a cloud in the shape of a wiener and I need to go outside immediately to check it out

 

Unvote -> Brewersalliance

 

 

VIBE CHECK Vote: ghaws

*sigh* Why?

What are you talking about? You are legit making no sense. I never voted lyner over lynch or no Lynch. I voted him for saying voting incatives=scum while remembering he legit said in like one game ago that he defaults to voting inactives lol

 

And u are unvoting me just to vote me? Lol dude you are making no sense with anything you're saying

Oh wait never mind I thought u voted me haha that was just an unvote

 

Stop using that yellow text 😂 it hurts old people's eyes 😂

 

 

I never voted lyner over lynch or no Lynch. I voted him for saying voting incatives=scum while remembering he legit said in like one game ago that he defaults to voting inactives lol

 

Oh yeah... damn, I thought I had a good argument there, scrap that then lmao

 

 

 

Stop using that yellow text it hurts old people's eyes

 

 

Over my dead body 

 

I never voted lyner over lynch or no Lynch. I voted him for saying voting incatives=scum while remembering he legit said in like one game ago that he defaults to voting inactives lol

 

Oh yeah... damn, I thought I had a good argument there, scrap that then lmao

 

 

 

Stop using that yellow text it hurts old people's eyes

 

 

Over my dead body 

 

doesn't it take extra effort to select all and then change the color just scrap the idea lol

 

 

doesn't it take extra effort to select all and then change the color just scrap the idea lol

 

yeah, but where's the fun in boring-ass gray? also CTRL + A and selecting the color literally takes like two seconds, plus I've been doing this for more than 2 years, so I don't think I mind the effort   

 

I tried writing in cyan before orange, but obviously this just starts to hurt your eyes after a while

 

doesn't it take extra effort to select all and then change the color just scrap the idea lol

yeah, but where's the fun in boring-ass gray? also CTRL + A and selecting the color literally takes like two seconds, plus I've been doing this for more than 2 years, so I don't think I mind the effort

 

I tried writing in cyan before orange, but obviously this just starts to hurt your eyes after a while

It's even worse on mobile because it's the bright text on the white background

 

 

Well, AbT is getting good at the lying game, perhaps even able to stand up to Limey Lyner himself, i give you that.

Care to explain what are those lies? I'm very interested to hear, if you have something substantial to say or are you just cynicaly trying to ride on the wave of brewers frustration?

ABT jumped on the wagon. Cause he has a bone to pick with you.

And this one to. I'd be glad to learn what is that bone about.

Well, one is no lynch is not always a bad strategy as you suggested.

Two, is fabrication, not necessarily in this game.

So I'm not going to comment further on that, but you know exactly what I'm referring to.

 

 

And about the issue you have with brewers, how should i know?

It just seems to a third party observer that you are genuinely upset with brewers.

 

I've been claiming that D1 no lynch is bad strategy in this scenario. This is a fact and numbers show that.  

But feel free to show me the message where I say no lynch is always a bad strategy. There must be some, since you wouln't lie to us, would you?

 

And since you're so skilled in finding lies, how about those ones?

 

And this game starts with 15. Town loses more with odd number of starting players. No Lynching and then the NK would make this game start at even and thus give a better chance of winning.

 

This is not true. It's actually the other way around. No lynch is more viable with even number of starting players.

By your own standards this is a lie. 

 

Like if you tracked say, me visiting lww. That might mean 2 things, 1) I'm scum. 2) the other joat also tracking/ motion detection. To the Joat who tracked me, there's a 50% chance that one of the 2 was the one which happened.

 

This is also not true. True chances were at that moment around 7% for finding JOAT and 93% for scum.

Again, by your own standards this is a lie. 

 

So how is it? Are you just bad with numbers, or are you constantly ltrying to decive town? 

Interesting to see ghaws and FB panicking and defending brewers

Since brewers started it I'll also do this kind of fun way to accuse people. Proofs:

 

Ghaws:

1. Ghaws defending brewers the instant I voted for brewers: "I will no go as far as vote brewers " [link]

2. Indirect defend from ghaws, voting is literally the only way to force information out of people [link]

3. Third time [link]

 

FB:

1. Two post away after Ghaws's first post: "Voting for brewers right now is just spiteful.  If he's a JOAT you'll be pissed and have a huge target on your back." [link]

2. Another one from FB [link]

3. Third time [link]

 

One or twice is nice, the third time is starting to get suspicious.

So its now a crime to defend someone from what could be an incorrect lynch when we have absolutely no information to go by?

 

I thought we were playing to win the game.

Vote FB because its been a while

Since brewers started it I'll also do this kind of fun way to accuse people. Proofs:

 

Ghaws:

1. Ghaws defending brewers the instant I voted for brewers: "I will no go as far as vote brewers " [link]

2. Indirect defend from ghaws, voting is literally the only way to force information out of people [link]

3. Third time [link]

 

FB:

1. Two post away after Ghaws's first post: "Voting for brewers right now is just spiteful.  If he's a JOAT you'll be pissed and have a huge target on your back." [link]

2. Another one from FB [link]

3. Third time [link]

 

One or twice is nice, the third time is starting to get suspicious.

i would say have fun voting me lol

if u think kevin who is an experienced mod will give me a role so important in this game where things are complicated u r clearly mistaken

and also u say i am defending him when clearly i said it is fishy the way warrior mk and him are playing this game all the way advocating for a no lynch but i still give them the benefit of the doubt because it kinda makes sense

 

 

 

with that being said... and I cannot believe I am doing this... 

 

Vote No Lynch

 

 

i would be more than welcome if anyone thinks otherwise to discuss it out because from the beginning of the game i am seeing a wagon of MK brewers just agreeing to each other anyways so i would like to see how that pans out if they are the detective duo or scums bringing numbers to the table

i also remember TW just did not find something as good as detective duo for 3 people lol so did not mention him

 

i said it right here mister detective lyner did u somehow miss this?

and i did not vote for him after u voted was because i did not see any credibility in your reasoning of voting him if there was any reason of voting him at all tbh

 

 

 

Less talking, more voting. Help cover for JoATs.

 

 

Sure if you want to play random name guesser instead of mafia that is a very viable strat 

The more we discuss the more we have information the more we can see through people. Even lies are information

 

how is this even a defense of brewers at all?

so u prefer we vote for people without any discussions and go straight up lynching people left and right because we can vote so that we keep changing our votes each time a new information is revealed?

and if you say voting is the only way to get information how are u making me talk rn?

did u vote for me ?

no right?

u just said it was suspicious and i said everything which i felt was wrong about your suspicion we can also get information if we threaten people that we have suspicion on them ig

Vote FB because its been a while

VOTE:  Wolfpacks

 

Because OMGUS.

In every game I mod, all roles are assigned randomly.

Vote Count:

Lyner (2): brewersalliance, Lord MK,  
Rafay (1): Lyner, 
brewersalliance (1): Robert2424, 
Robert2424 (1): Rafay, 
Ferastical (1): Tony Maurice,
ghaws (1): Torres951,
Finster Baby (1): Wolfpacks,
Wolfpacks (1): Finster Baby,
Tony Maurice (0): 
Ali bin Turban (0):
Lord MK (0):
The Warrior (0):
Torres951 (0):
Velocity (0):

No Lynch (0):

 

Not Voting: The Warrior, Velocity, ghaws, Ali bin Turban, Ferastical,

With 14 alive it takes 8 to lynch, or 4 at deadline.
Deadline is Saturday, August 29 at 23:59 EDT.
 

Oo okay I thought it wasn't random sorry my bad!

Arrgh, too many posts to quote.

 

First one.

https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Numbers,_Part_1

Says clearly there, odd numbers for town wins games.

So definitely not a liar.

And 93 percent chance It's scum.

But to the Joat investigating, from their perspective, it can be either.

You are just being a bottom dwelling troll now.

 

Another one to ghaws.

You comment that Kevin won't give you the role is baseless.

All roles and alignment are decided by RNG.

So everyone here had an equal chance of being mafia or joats.

Actually almost all mafia games played here are decided by RNG

Yea it is my bad I really thought it was based on the mod whom they want to assign which role and I accept that mistake will keep this in mind thanks for pointing it out

 

 

Vote FB because its been a while

VOTE: Wolfpacks

 

Because OMGUS.

I know lol