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[KH-22] Mad17 - Mafia Wins!

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Lynching today is not low risk, high reward. I would classify it as high risk with a slim chance of high reward since we are much more likely to lynch a town PR. Having said that, there are of course a lot of power roles to work with. I think I'm leaning towards giving them all at least one night to work. If we choose to lynch tomorrow that's fine but at least then whomever is in line to be lynched can at least share one night's worth of actions with us first which could help later.


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Lilweirdward (6): Torres951, Lord MK, Brewersalliance, Finster Baby, Rafay, Velocity,
Brewersalliance (2): Robert2424, Chaplain of death,
Robert2424 (2): Tony Maurice, Wolfpacks,
Rafay (1): Kaziocore,
Ferastical (1): Lyner,
Kaziocore (0):
The Warrior (0):
Ali bin Turban
Chaplain of death
Dontavian
Finster Baby
Lord MK
Lyner
Tony Maurice
Torres951
Velocity
Wolfpacks

No Lynch (2): Lilweirdward,

Not voting: Ali bin Turban, Dontavian, Ferastical, The Warrior,

 
With 17 alive, it takes 9 to lynch.
There is not a deadline half-majority lynch.
Deadline for Day 1 is Wednesday, December 30 at 17:00 EST
 



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@ferastical, you plan on saying anything other than making a top 10 list of players to kill or nah?


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Lynching today is not low risk, high reward. I would classify it as high risk with a slim chance of high reward since we are much more likely to lynch a town PR. Having said that, there are of course a lot of power roles to work with. I think I'm leaning towards giving them all at least one night to work. If we choose to lynch tomorrow that's fine but at least then whomever is in line to be lynched can at least share one night's worth of actions with us first which could help later.

 

9 of the 17 roles have a night 1 action, and we don't know how many of those the town have vs how many scum got. It's only a slightly better than 50/50 that any one person will have any information to give on D2, and then its also a matter of if their information is relevant or tells us anything, or is even confirmable. 

 

I don't have a plan I'm just trying to put the information available to us on the table so we don't make incorrect assumptions. 



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Rafay is ignoring me FeelsWeirdMan

 

No I'm not ol chum. I'm sorry it felt that way to you. Welcome back.

 

Welcome too but you're still my #1 suspect right now so nothing personal haha


Also something about Lyner is bugging me so I'd also put him on my sus list haha


Lynching today is not low risk, high reward. I would classify it as high risk with a slim chance of high reward since we are much more likely to lynch a town PR. Having said that, there are of course a lot of power roles to work with. I think I'm leaning towards giving them all at least one night to work. If we choose to lynch tomorrow that's fine but at least then whomever is in line to be lynched can at least share one night's worth of actions with us first which could help later.

There are not just 2 rewards for lynching today. The 2nd reward is some vote history we can analyze tomorrow.


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Vote robert
 
Apathy.

 

The best way to solve this issue is vote Robert for president in 2424 and he will stop,the establishment

 

 

What a crappy day 1 lynch choice. 
 
an active one who has been jumped on for a non reason.
 
I mean at least vote for someone like Robert who has declared apathy and goes on inactive randomly.

You really aren't that smart are you?

 

Kinda funny that throughout the whole game Tony wants to lynch you lol

I don't know what to make out of this but this is something that I'll take note of


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Torres951, Lord MK, Brewersalliance - clearly against lwl for the right reasons

 

@Finster Baby - You need to explain your vote on LWL because your reasoning here looks like it was a random decision

https://ironcentral.org/community/topic/65084-kh-22-mad17-day-1/page-2#entry1024016

 

@Rafay - Same as FB, explain your vote

 

@Velocity - Is your vote purely because you don't believe in no lynches and you picked lwl because he has a vote wagon?

 

@lwl - Any suspects right now? I don't see No Lynch winning right now

 

@Robert2424 @Chaplain of death
Your votes were random votes at the start of the game so I'm expecting that you have better suspects right now to vote?
 

Normally I'd go no lynch first day but not sure if he still wants to
play

 

Vote robert
 
Apathy.

@Tony Maurice @Wolfpacks

Okay so I might have overlooked this. What's the context behind this?
 
Ali bin Turban is MIA
Dontavian to me looks like coasting because he's mostly just posting stuff to agree with people
Ferastical is inactive but possibly breadcrumbing for vig???
The Warrior is leaning towards No Lynch


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Torres951, Lord MK, Brewersalliance - clearly against lwl for the right reasons

 

@Finster Baby - You need to explain your vote on LWL because your reasoning here looks like it was a random decision

https://ironcentral.org/community/topic/65084-kh-22-mad17-day-1/page-2#entry1024016

 

@Rafay - Same as FB, explain your vote

 

@Velocity - Is your vote purely because you don't believe in no lynches and you picked lwl because he has a vote wagon?

 

@lwl - Any suspects right now? I don't see No Lynch winning right now

 

@Robert2424 @Chaplain of death
Your votes were random votes at the start of the game so I'm expecting that you have better suspects right now to vote?
 

Normally I'd go no lynch first day but not sure if he still wants to
play

 

Vote robert
 
Apathy.

@Tony Maurice @Wolfpacks

Okay so I might have overlooked this. What's the context behind this?
 
Ali bin Turban is MIA
Dontavian to me looks like coasting because he's mostly just posting stuff to agree with people
Ferastical is inactive but possibly breadcrumbing for vig???
The Warrior is leaning towards No Lynch

 

 

Not really. The lwl wagon doesn't seem based on a whole lot to me but I don't know lwl's playstyle that much to be fair. I have no problem removing my vote since it was random, but nothing really sticking out too much to me.

 

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Lilweirdward (6): Torres951, Lord MK, Brewersalliance, Finster Baby, Rafay, Velocity,
Robert2424 (2): Tony Maurice, Wolfpacks,
Brewersalliance (1): Robert2424,
Rafay (1): Kaziocore,
Ferastical (1): Lyner,
Kaziocore (0):
The Warrior (0):
Ali bin Turban
Chaplain of death
Dontavian
Finster Baby
Lord MK
Lyner
Tony Maurice
Torres951
Velocity
Wolfpacks

No Lynch (2): Lilweirdward,

Not voting: Ali bin Turban, Dontavian, Ferastical, The Warrior, Chaplain of death,

 
With 17 alive, it takes 9 to lynch.
There is not a deadline half-majority lynch.
Deadline for Day 1 is Wednesday, December 30 at 17:00 EST
 



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Torres951, Lord MK, Brewersalliance - clearly against lwl for the right reasons

@Finster Baby - You need to explain your vote on LWL because your reasoning here looks like it was a random decision
https://ironcentral.org/community/topic/65084-kh-22-mad17-day-1/page-2#entry1024016

@Rafay - Same as FB, explain your vote

@Velocity - Is your vote purely because you don't believe in no lynches and you picked lwl because he has a vote wagon?

@lwl - Any suspects right now? I don't see No Lynch winning right now

@Robert2424 @Chaplain of death
Your votes were random votes at the start of the game so I'm expecting that you have better suspects right now to vote?

Normally I'd go no lynch first day but not sure if he still wants to
play

Vote robert

Apathy.

@Tony Maurice @Wolfpacks
Okay so I might have overlooked this. What's the context behind this?

Ali bin Turban is MIA
Dontavian to me looks like coasting because he's mostly just posting stuff to agree with people
Ferastical is inactive but possibly breadcrumbing for vig???
The Warrior is leaning towards No Lynch

Basically it's simple, Robert wasn't sure he wanted to continue, so I was seeing if that was still true.

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Torres951, Lord MK, Brewersalliance - clearly against lwl for the right reasons


Interesting, what reasons are those?

@lwl - Any suspects right now? I don't see No Lynch winning right now


I just FoS'ed Velocity like a few posts ago lol. I'm sticking with No Lynch regardless though for reasons already stated, and a few people have expressed it being one of their top options towards the end of the day so I don't think it's a non starter.

Normally I'd go no lynch first day but not sure if he still wants to
play

Vote robert

Apathy.

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Okay so I might have overlooked this. What's the context behind this?

Robert recently said in either this game or mine that he doesn't care about mafia anymore. He's been inactive a lot and mostly just insults people and harasses brewers these days, so I think him outright saying he doesn't care to try was the final straw. Honestly he'd be who I would actually vote for today if I didn't think No Lynch was the better choice, since losing him as a PR (if he's town) doesn't hurt anything since he's mostly inactive and said he's not trying anyway.

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Dontavian to me looks like coasting because he's mostly just posting stuff to agree with people

Adapting a lower post rate in this game, like several others use. So far, when I participate, it just gives opportunity to get accused simply because I was trying to be active. As for me delivering some enlightened evidence, not much to go on besides typical D1 nonsense and banter, so not sure what you think I’d have to add.


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Yah what Wp and LWW sim up why I voted Robert


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Robert should be the default D1 lynch, in my opinion.
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I mean targeting him in that way is sure to change his mind. If you have concerns about his activity and commitment to play the game then stop allowing him to sign up, otherwise leave past games in the past behind establishing a pattern of behavior to indicate alignment. This feels the same as when everyone railed on Rafay in MK's game. If you want people to participate meaningfully, maybe try toning down the toxicity.



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Alright time is almost up and the votes are still concentrated on LWW

 

Vote: No Lynch

 

It's kinda stupid to lynch one of the most active player on day one while we have several inactives lying around



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Alright time is almost up and the votes are still concentrated on LWW

Vote: No Lynch

It's kinda stupid to lynch one of the most active player on day one while we have several inactives lying around



Yes, but just cause they are active doesn't make them town.

Which is why I still think he's the best target.
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You’re right, it doesn’t make them town. It doesn’t make him scum though either. I still don’t agree with lynching anyone for suggesting a game strategy unless it is so egregiously scummy that it can’t be overlooked. I see LWW’s line of thinking here so I don’t think that’s the case. I think a no lynch is a better option today.
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Well, suggesting NL for 1 day is fine.
2 days? Sure. 3 days? Isn't that a bit too suspicious to let go unnoticed?
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In a normal game, I’d say so. In this game I don’t think it was completely crazy because we know the limitations of every role in the game and almost all actions are expended by that time so I get why he suggested it.
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