Players

 

• Captainjf 2.0
• CANIK, a Watcher, Died N3
• CAPTAIN, a Doctor, died N1
• CM
• COD
• FERASTICAL, a Ninja and member of the mafia was lynched D2
• KEVINH, a vote thief, was lynched D4
• LWW
• LYNER
• M, a doctor, died n2
• RAFAY, a diagnoser died n2
• ROBERT2424, a role cop and member of the mafia died N3
• SUYASH, MOD KILLED D3
• VELOCITY, a Jester, was lynched D1

Events

Day1 Start Vote Count 1.1 Vote Count 1.2 Vote Count 1.3 Vote Count 1.4 Vote Count 1.5 End of DAY 1

Day 2 Start  Vote Count 2.1 Vote Count 2.2 End of Day 2

Day 3 Start Vote Count 3.1 Vote Count 3.2  End of Day 3

Day 4 Start Vote Count 4.1 End of Day 4

 

Rules

• During the day phase each player may speak and vote in-thread.
• If a player receives the majority of the available votes during the day, they are lynched.
• At deadline, a player with half-majority will be lynched.
• If two players have reached half-majority and have the same number of votes, the player who reached that number of votes first will be lynched.
• You may vote no lynch
• After the day, the game goes to night.
• The game thread is closed during the night. Only mafia may speak to each other at night.
• All active roles may submit actions via PM at night.
• The mafia can, as a faction, kill one player at night.
• After the night, the game goes to day.
• All dead players (lynched or killed) can no longer participate in the game.
• Basic rules for maintaining the integrity of the game thread are in effect (i.e. players may not quote their Role PMs, nor may they discuss the game outside the game thread unless otherwise permitted, etc.)
• The game is won when only one faction remains in the game.
• Mass role-claiming is not allowed, but you may reveal your role if you have something interesting to share.
• You may pm me questions or ask them in the game thread but you may not get an answer to some things.
• When voting, please enter your vote on a separate line of your post so that it isn't easily missed.
• Various Sanity's may or may not be in play
• Mafia has Day Talk
• The game is a night start

ACTIVE PARTICIPATION IS REQUIRED.

• ​All players are required to post a minimum 3 times per day. Any player who does not meet the required post counts will be subject to a mod kill. A mod kill and a lynch may both happen at my discretion. If multiple players do not meet the requirement, each player may be subject to a mod kill at my discretion.

 

 

blatantly double voting someone near the end of the game for no reason other than to save yourself is scummy

 

why?  should kevin just said oh okay ill just be lynched?  this makes zero sense ... 

I mean in hindsight I can see that he probably just figured that he could help more as a vote thief than anything else he knew, but in my eyes Lyner seemed at least somewhat townie and Kevin really made no indication at the time that he genuinely thought he was scum other than being annoyed that he was getting him lynched. A mislynch had a high likelihood of ending the game (not completely but it took it out of our hands), so what good does it do for Kevin to save himself just to mislynch another townie and lose anyway if he's town? It only makes sense if he genuinely thinks Lyner is probably scum, in which case he should've come to that conclusion before being on the chopping block, or at least made more of an effort to actually make a case for why Lyner was scum.

 

The reason just trying to hammer anyone he could to save himself looks scummy to me is because a scum might know that they basically only had to survive that night to win, at least with the likelihood that there were 2 left and they were on the same team. At that point you don't care about trying to lie your way out of it, you just want to get the mislynch and win.

 

Idk, I'm not saying I was right in selling out for lynching Kevin lol because obviously I wasn't, but I don't feel like I was wrong for thinking what he did was at least a bit scummy.

Lol

 

Lww, the king at misreading signs

I mean in hindsight I can see that he probably just figured that he could help more as a vote thief than anything else he knew, but in my eyes Lyner seemed at least somewhat townie and Kevin really made no indication at the time that he genuinely thought he was scum other than being annoyed that he was getting him lynched. A mislynch had a high likelihood of ending the game (not completely but it took it out of our hands), so what good does it do for Kevin to save himself just to mislynch another townie and lose anyway if he's town? It only makes sense if he genuinely thinks Lyner is probably scum, in which case he should've come to that conclusion before being on the chopping block, or at least made more of an effort to actually make a case for why Lyner was scum.

 

The reason just trying to hammer anyone he could to save himself looks scummy to me is because a scum might know that they basically only had to survive that night to win, at least with the likelihood that there were 2 left and they were on the same team. At that point you don't care about trying to lie your way out of it, you just want to get the mislynch and win.

 

Idk, I'm not saying I was right in selling out for lynching Kevin lol because obviously I wasn't, but I don't feel like I was wrong for thinking what he did was at least a bit scummy.

 

I mean a townie would also know that if we mislynch there its highly likely we lose, If we mislynch someone other than Kevin we still have a chance no matter what since Kevin was town, if we mislynch Kevin like we did, its possible we lose that night.

Yeah I guess that makes sense. The whole game was rough so I'm not gonna defend any of my decisions too much lol.

Yeah I guess that makes sense. The whole game was rough so I'm not gonna defend any of my decisions too much lol.

 

I'm saying that in hindsight. I was concerned about the possibility that if he was scum, we would have lost immediately on a mislynch immediately.

The Roles:

 

Mafia:

Ferastical- 1 shot insane ninja.  50/50 chance if he used his ninja ability it would be publicly announced who he visited.  

TW/Robert-  Role cop.  Sane

STP/CM- insane deva.  50/50 chance he either causes his target to also do their action on themselves or the action can be also duplicated onto CM.  that is how Kevin got three votes

Velocity - Goon but a Jester.  His teammates did not know he was a jester.  he could only win if he was both lynched and mafia won as a team

 

SK

Captain2.0-  was told he was a sane cop, but he was really a sk.  got the idea from shutter island (if the flavor did not give it away).  he was also a miller.  CM deva'd him and he killed himself

 

Town

Captain- insane doctor  50/50 chance he kills his target instead of protects them.  he self targeted and killed himself lol so Captain managed to kill himself twice in this game lol

LWW-  random cop.  even RNG rolls he got a town result, odd he got mafia 

lyner- miller

kevinH- insane vote thief, 50/50 chance he loses his vote and gives his vote to the player he tried to steal it from.  hence him having 0 votes and canik 2 on d2

CoD- paranoid cop

Rafay- Diagnoser, learns if his target has a sanity modifier (was a real role I just changed the name to fit the theme )

MK -asylum dr, if target is attacked they become vanilla

canik- insane watcher, was told a random player who didnt target his choice

Jaden- 1 shot vanillaizer 

Lww's role is the same as cod.

Both roles are useless

Honestly I think a game almost entirely insane is even harder than mountainous. At least in the latter, you know what you're dealing with, but playing with unknown and messed up sanities means you have to play with abilities without knowing how much they're actually useful, if at all. Almost every ability in the game was a negative utility too which makes the whole game way more difficult.

 

In all I think both sides had enough negative utility that it somewhat balanced out, but I would prefer not to play a game that bastardized again for a while lol.

Lww's role is the same as cod.

Both roles are useless

 

THEY ARENT THE SAME

 

COD JUST GOT GULTIY ON EVERYONE 

 

LWW'S RESULTS WERE RANDOM.  

 

In all I think both sides had enough negative utility that it somewhat balanced out, but I would prefer not to play a game that bastardized again for a while lol.

 

 

I think the setup was fine based on both sides having negative side effects to many of their roles, but I'd prefer to at least get a description of a role before its used in the future if you're going to use roles that we can't easily look up to figure out what to expect. https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Category:Roles

 

Obviously we still wouldn't know its alignment and modifiers, but throwing a curveball of a role we've never seen before and can't even look up to get an understanding of what the hell it normally does was a bit much.

 

Lww's role is the same as cod.
Both roles are useless

 

THEY ARENT THE SAME

 

COD JUST GOT GULTIY ON EVERYONE 

 

LWW'S RESULTS WERE RANDOM.  

 

In all I think both sides had enough negative utility that it somewhat balanced out, but I would prefer not to play a game that bastardized again for a while lol.

 

 

 

 

True but it just means that we had 2 cops both of whom couldn't rely on their results at all. Not really sure why you would bother putting a miller into the mix since his role as miller changes literally nothing about anyone's results.

Wanted to see if lyner would RC and get his modifier

I should get an award for killing myself twice...