per the wiki: A Watcher's action can fail due to, e.g., a Roleblocker targeting them or an attempt to watch an Ascetic target; in these cases, the Watcher will be aware that their action has failed, and will receive a no result PM.

 

 

 

No result means your action was blocked/failed

Ahhh sorry, I must’ve misread when I skimmed that page. Disregard part of my above post lol

Well. Is there any Role, now that I think about it, that would make them immune to being watched? Like acetic or something?

Yes, ascetic is immune to all night actions except kills. I don't think I've ever seen it in a game since I started playing but brewers could be that.

so velocity's action failed in some way, so that would make sense that he would not see Zacch targeting me.  

 

Well. Is there any Role, now that I think about it, that would make them immune to being watched? Like acetic or something?

Yes, ascetic is immune to all night actions except kills. I don't think I've ever seen it in a game since I started playing but brewers could be that.

 

 

its been in games.  ive used it, TW has used it.

@zacch you need to tell us exactly what the results are.  Wording of the results is super important.  

@velocity what was the result you got world for word n2

I thought so. I doubt Brewers is though.

I'm still not 100% clear on what a watcher is able to detect, is the detection made on the targeting of someone or does it required the targeted action be executed?

 

For example if a roleblocker targets someone but that person doesn't take a blockable action, would the roieblockers targeting of said person be detectable by the watcher?

I'm still not 100% clear on what a watcher is able to detect, is the detection made on the targeting of someone or does it required the targeted action be executed?

 

For example if a roleblocker targets someone but that person doesn't take a blockable action, would the roleblockers targeting of said person be detectable by the watcher?

 

Watcher will only see that you visited the target, not any actions that were performed. Unless the watcher is role blocked then they wont see anything

Okay, I got it sorted. I misread my results. Night 1 was “No Result.”

Night 2 was “Did not see anything.” That was my fault on misinterpreting my results. I think we can partially say it’s sorted now 🤣

I'm still not 100% clear on what a watcher is able to detect, is the detection made on the targeting of someone or does it required the targeted action be executed?

 

For example if a roleblocker targets someone but that person doesn't take a blockable action, would the roieblockers targeting of said person be detectable by the watcher?

 

The watcher is told who, if anyone visited a target

 

Now for the 4th time:  what did your results say.  like what did they actually say.  this is important

 

 

I’m Vision. Have the Mind Stone. Town Watcher.

Okay Mind Stone is pretty strong claim.

 

Unvote 

 

 

Okay, I got it sorted. I misread my results. Night 1 was “No Result.” Night 2 was “Did not see anything.” That was my fault on misinterpreting my results. I think we can partially say it’s sorted now

 

 

 

this confirms one of three things: velocity was roleblocked.  a rolestopper targeted me, or I am aesthetic 

 

I'm still not 100% clear on what a watcher is able to detect, is the detection made on the targeting of someone or does it required the targeted action be executed?

 

For example if a roleblocker targets someone but that person doesn't take a blockable action, would the roieblockers targeting of said person be detectable by the watcher?

 

The watcher is told who, if anyone visited a target

 

Now for the 4th time:  what did your results say.  like what did they actually say.  this is important

 

 

I told you, I did not receive a result, I submitted my target and received confirmation of my submission, but that is it, no response followed.

velocity is at 3 votes now, jazzy is at two votes.   we need either two more votes on jazzy or one person to come off velocity

 

I will vote for jazzy most likely but we still need another

Yeah. Hiding the "No Results" is weird. If it is just say it. It's going to save town time instead of people just asking over and over again what the exact wording was. You can't help what the results are, just say the results you are told.

 

 

I told you, I did not receive a result, I submitted my target and received confirmation of my submission, but that is it, no response followed.

 

 

you never said that lol 

so youre not investigative.

 

you could be protective, or a blocker of some sorts...  while I dont usually like to ask people to role claim if its not needed, you have created a TON of confusion and it might be best for u just to fully claim so we can try to make sense of what u are saying

Also. I think it's uncommon for someone not to know there are aestic. Unless that's more common place then now.

Also. I think it's uncommon for someone not to know there are aestic. Unless that's more common place then now.

 

im not going to say if I am or if I am not.  I will say this tho, it has been used in games as both a transparent role and as a hidden modifier 

 

 

Interesting turn of events. Don't have time now to go through everything that was said, but we should not be quick to lynch anyone with a stone claim. Not entirely convinced if he is fake claiming or not, such late in the day, but we will have time for that later. For now I will switch my vote to jazz, he has been my no 1 scum suspect for a while.

 

 

fake claiming is very unlikely, as the real vision could just counter claim it.  0% chance Vision is a safe claim for the scum since collecting the stones seems to have some importance on this game

FYI, jazzy is at 3 votes with Velocity, me, and Imran

 

I told you, I did not receive a result, I submitted my target and received confirmation of my submission, but that is it, no response followed.

 

 

you never said that lol 

so youre not investigative.

 

you could be protective, or a blocker of some sorts...  while I dont usually like to ask people to role claim if its not needed, you have created a TON of confusion and it might be best for u just to fully claim so we can try to make sense of what u are saying

 

 

What I'm saying is pretty clear, if Velocity is a watcher, then he should have seen me visit brewers on night 1.

 

I am not yet at risk of being voted off during the day, so it does not make sense to claim my role. 

 

If things change and I have the most votes, then I will role claim.

FYI, jazzy is at 3 votes with Velocity, me, and Imran

 

OH i thought you were on robert still

 

Vote jazzy

 

 

 

I told you, I did not receive a result, I submitted my target and received confirmation of my submission, but that is it, no response followed.

 

you never said that lol

 

so youre not investigative.

 

you could be protective, or a blocker of some sorts... while I dont usually like to ask people to role claim if its not needed, you have created a TON of confusion and it might be best for u just to fully claim so we can try to make sense of what u are saying

What I'm saying is pretty clear, if Velocity is a watcher, then he should have seen me visit brewers on night 1.

 

I am not yet at risk of being voted off during the day, so it does not make sense to claim my role.

 

If things change and I have the most votes, then I will role claim.

Velocity couldn't have seen you visit brewers if he was role blocked, which seems likely.

 

I don't have a problem with you not role claiming for now. We don't want to out people who might have infinity stones for no reason since that's who scum will target. I will say that if you think claiming would meaningfully benefit town, especially if it makes it easier to catch scum or save a townie, then you should do it, but that's your decision to make.

 

 

I told you, I did not receive a result, I submitted my target and received confirmation of my submission, but that is it, no response followed.

 

 

you never said that lol 

so youre not investigative.

 

you could be protective, or a blocker of some sorts...  while I dont usually like to ask people to role claim if its not needed, you have created a TON of confusion and it might be best for u just to fully claim so we can try to make sense of what u are saying

 

 

What I'm saying is pretty clear, if Velocity is a watcher, then he should have seen me visit brewers on night 1.

 

I am not yet at risk of being voted off during the day, so it does not make sense to claim my role. 

 

If things change and I have the most votes, then I will role claim.

 

 

what youre saying is not clear...  you were being coy with telling us your results.  then when i said it was important for you to tell us exactly word for word what was said, you said TW did not give you any results....

 

this is what you first said:  

 

The results were null. No action was taken as a result of the target.

 

 

and then this is what you are saying now

 

 

 

I told you, I did not receive a result, I submitted my target and received confirmation of my submission, but that is it, no response followed.

 

 

the first one sounds like you got a result or response of some sort from TW.  The second u are saying u didnt.

 

This is starting to feel like a fake claim to me.  You realized if you word the results wrong, we will know its a fake RC so now you saying he didnt respond to avoid that

 

HUGE FOS on Zacch

 

 

 

I told you, I did not receive a result, I submitted my target and received confirmation of my submission, but that is it, no response followed.

 

 

you never said that lol 

so youre not investigative.

 

you could be protective, or a blocker of some sorts...  while I dont usually like to ask people to role claim if its not needed, you have created a TON of confusion and it might be best for u just to fully claim so we can try to make sense of what u are saying

 

 

What I'm saying is pretty clear, if Velocity is a watcher, then he should have seen me visit brewers on night 1.

 

I am not yet at risk of being voted off during the day, so it does not make sense to claim my role. 

 

If things change and I have the most votes, then I will role claim.

 

 

what youre saying is not clear...  you were being coy with telling us your results.  then when i said it was important for you to tell us exactly word for word what was said, you said TW did not give you any results....

 

this is what you first said:  

 

The results were null. No action was taken as a result of the target.

 

 

and then this is what you are saying now

 

 

 

I told you, I did not receive a result, I submitted my target and received confirmation of my submission, but that is it, no response followed.

 

 

the first one sounds like you got a result or response of some sort from TW.  The second u are saying u didnt.

 

This is starting to feel like a fake claim to me.  You realized if you word the results wrong, we will know its a fake RC so now you saying he didnt respond to avoid that

 

HUGE FOS on Zacch

 

 

Null means invalid or zero, I.E. I did not receive a valid response, the result was null. My action was not executed. 

 

What I find suspicious is that both you and lww are completely dismissive of Velocity.  There is a 1 in 14 chance that Velocity was roleblocked on night 1. That is by no means probable or likely.

 

This whole discussion today has reaffirmed by suspicion of all three of you.

also for anyone who cares

 

brewersalliance 59 lilweirdward 56 Zacch 43 The Warrior 33 Imran Ehsan 32 Robert2424 30 Velocity 27 Preston 20 KevinH 19 DarkFox 18 Lyner 16 Lord MK 11 Jazzy95 11 Tony Maurice 9 iSocialism 7 Bryan93 4 Samus 1

 

 

 

 

I told you, I did not receive a result, I submitted my target and received confirmation of my submission, but that is it, no response followed.

 

 

you never said that lol 

so youre not investigative.

 

you could be protective, or a blocker of some sorts...  while I dont usually like to ask people to role claim if its not needed, you have created a TON of confusion and it might be best for u just to fully claim so we can try to make sense of what u are saying

 

 

What I'm saying is pretty clear, if Velocity is a watcher, then he should have seen me visit brewers on night 1.

 

I am not yet at risk of being voted off during the day, so it does not make sense to claim my role. 

 

If things change and I have the most votes, then I will role claim.

 

 

what youre saying is not clear...  you were being coy with telling us your results.  then when i said it was important for you to tell us exactly word for word what was said, you said TW did not give you any results....

 

this is what you first said:  

 

The results were null. No action was taken as a result of the target.

 

 

and then this is what you are saying now

 

 

 

I told you, I did not receive a result, I submitted my target and received confirmation of my submission, but that is it, no response followed.

 

 

the first one sounds like you got a result or response of some sort from TW.  The second u are saying u didnt.

 

This is starting to feel like a fake claim to me.  You realized if you word the results wrong, we will know its a fake RC so now you saying he didnt respond to avoid that

 

HUGE FOS on Zacch

 

 

Null means invalid or zero, I.E. I did not receive a valid response, the result was null. My action was not executed. 

 

What I find suspicious is that both you and lww are completely dismissive of Velocity.  There is a 1 in 14 chance that Velocity was roleblocked on night 1. That is by no means probable or likely.

 

This whole discussion today has reaffirmed by suspicion of all three of you.

 

 

 

now your action wasnt executed?  so you are saying your action didnt even happen??  

if your action never happened then how on god's earth would velocity have seen you visit me lol

 

you are ALL over the place here

also for anyone who cares

 

brewersalliance 59 lilweirdward 56 Zacch 43 The Warrior 33 Imran Ehsan 32 Robert2424 30 Velocity 27 Preston 20 KevinH 19 DarkFox 18 Lyner 16 Lord MK 11 Jazzy95 11 Tony Maurice 9 iSocialism 7 Bryan93 4 Samus 1

 

 

 

 

I told you, I did not receive a result, I submitted my target and received confirmation of my submission, but that is it, no response followed.

 

 

you never said that lol 

so youre not investigative.

 

you could be protective, or a blocker of some sorts...  while I dont usually like to ask people to role claim if its not needed, you have created a TON of confusion and it might be best for u just to fully claim so we can try to make sense of what u are saying

 

 

What I'm saying is pretty clear, if Velocity is a watcher, then he should have seen me visit brewers on night 1.

 

I am not yet at risk of being voted off during the day, so it does not make sense to claim my role. 

 

If things change and I have the most votes, then I will role claim.

 

 

what youre saying is not clear...  you were being coy with telling us your results.  then when i said it was important for you to tell us exactly word for word what was said, you said TW did not give you any results....

 

this is what you first said:  

 

The results were null. No action was taken as a result of the target.

 

 

and then this is what you are saying now

 

 

 

I told you, I did not receive a result, I submitted my target and received confirmation of my submission, but that is it, no response followed.

 

 

the first one sounds like you got a result or response of some sort from TW.  The second u are saying u didnt.

 

This is starting to feel like a fake claim to me.  You realized if you word the results wrong, we will know its a fake RC so now you saying he didnt respond to avoid that

 

HUGE FOS on Zacch

 

 

Null means invalid or zero, I.E. I did not receive a valid response, the result was null. My action was not executed. 

 

What I find suspicious is that both you and lww are completely dismissive of Velocity.  There is a 1 in 14 chance that Velocity was roleblocked on night 1. That is by no means probable or likely.

 

This whole discussion today has reaffirmed by suspicion of all three of you.

 

 

 

now your action wasnt executed?  so you are saying your action didnt even happen??  

if your action never happened then how on god's earth would velocity have seen you visit me lol

 

you are ALL over the place here

 

 

Didn't you say all you need to do is visit someone to be detected by a watcher? 

You are confusing me Zaach. I dont know if its because of a lack of experience or because you are scum trying to get us to lynch someone who claimed not only a role but a stone as well