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[TW-13] Avengers: Infinity War Mafia - Mafia Wins

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He drink! He drink!

 

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you should consider yourself a massive idiot for wasting our lynch today.

 

Lets keep things civil. No need to launch personal attacks bacause of a game.

 

Having gone through 3-pages of posts that I had to catch up on, one of the things that is striking me as massively odd is Zacch's claim that he submitted an action and Mod did not reply. If he was role blocked I think he would get a no result reply as well, the action is not going to go into a void.

 

 

I didn't mean it as a personal attack, but in hindsight I can see how it might come across like that, and I apologize if that's how he or anyone took it. I meant it more like it would be an extremely dumb play, but not because of his IRL intelligence or anything like that. 

 

Also, there can be roles that have actions but don't get results from the mod, right? Like, if Zacch was the role blocker (which is obviously very unlikely since he's doubted the veracity of a claim of Velocity being role blocked so much), and he chose to role block someone, would the mod give him any sort of result for his action? They would acknowledge the action, which Zacch claimed TW did, but I don't think the mod usually tells the player that their action was successful or stopped somehow. It's been a little while since I played though, so I'm still a little rusty and might not be remembering correctly.

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Also, there can be roles that have actions but don't get results from the mod, right? Like, if Zacch was the role blocker (which is obviously very unlikely since he's doubted the veracity of a claim of Velocity being role blocked so much), and he chose to role block someone, would the mod give him any sort of result for his action? They would acknowledge the action, which Zacch claimed TW did, but I don't think the mod usually tells the player that their action was successful or stopped somehow. It's been a little while since I played though, so I'm still a little rusty and might not be remembering correctly.

 

Yeah good point, didnt think of that. 

I'm surprised those of you who have experience playing with each other are accepting any type of excuses of "just making mistakes" from experienced players like Velocity. From what I understand, Velocity is one of the most skillful scum players there is, although the rules do not permit me to bring up past games, I think you all know the history. Good players generally don't make mistakes unless its on purpose.

 I am frankly insulted by this, and  might just vote for you for just this.

 

Velocity (4): Lord MK, Lyner, Preston, iSocialism 2.0

 

 

Scum is almost for sure on this wagon in my opinion

MK has been hard on velocity this whole game for who knows why so he isn’t going to unvote

 

Isoc might not come on lol so he might not

 

Meaning we need Preston and lyner to unvote to save velo or we need to get someone more votes

 You got that right, i am not going to unvote on velocity

 

 

Okay, I got it sorted. I misread my results. Night 1 was “No Result.” Night 2 was “Did not see anything.” That was my fault on misinterpreting my results. I think we can partially say it’s sorted now

 

 

 

this confirms one of three things: velocity was roleblocked.  a rolestopper targeted me, or I am aesthetic

 

 you are not aesthetic, you are ugly, lol

 

I told you, I did not receive a result, I submitted my target and received confirmation of my submission, but that is it, no response followed.

 TW does do that with his role, if you got a no feedback role. Also just RP at this point, you are super scummy and if we do have a protective role, they need to know if they should protect you or velocity. Especially if you are like a roleblocker or doctor yourself, cause protect the doctor, duh

 

Velocity couldn't have seen you visit brewers if he was role blocked, which seems likely.

 

I don't have a problem with you not role claiming for now. We don't want to out people who might have infinity stones for no reason since that's who scum will target. I will say that if you think claiming would meaningfully benefit town, especially if it makes it easier to catch scum or save a townie, then you should do it, but that's your decision to make.

 But he has just dug a big hole at this point and frankly needs to just come out

 

Do you for sure know you have the mind stone or just a hunch

 SUS, like did you not read velocity's post? he has the mind stone.

I mean, he could be lying, but his lie rp contains the words mind stone, even then.

 

 

you should consider yourself a massive idiot for wasting our lynch today.

 

Lets keep things civil. No need to launch personal attacks bacause of a game.

 

Having gone through 3-pages of posts that I had to catch up on, one of the things that is striking me as massively odd is Zacch's claim that he submitted an action and Mod did not reply. If he was role blocked I think he would get a no result reply as well, the action is not going to go into a void.

 

if he had a no feedback role,  that's just how it usually happens

How does one know that they have the stone?? think about it

The mod tells them?

 

Flavour wise in the MCU, everyone who ever wielded a infinity stone knew that they had an infinity stone. Except for one group.

 

Is your character Asgardian?

 

But his rp is as vision.

He knew that he had the stone.

I mean, it's there on his forehead.

 

How does one know that they have the stone?? think about it

The mod tells them?

 

Flavour wise in the MCU, everyone who ever wielded a infinity stone knew that they had an infinity stone. Except for one group.

 

Is your character Asgardian?

 

But his rp is as vision.

He knew that he had the stone.

I mean, it's there on his forehead.

It's a bold claim unless he is given a safe claim, but I doubt TW gives away a stone holder as a safe claim

 

unless the stone shenanigans are just meaningless flavor

@TW would you mind prodding Jazzy? He probably doesn't have enough time to save himself anymore but it would be nice to at least hear from him before he dies.
The fact Jazzy hasn't shown up yet is interesting. If he's town does town nothing to accept your fate without your thoughts. Your thoughts will be lost and any actions will be lost as well. As part me doubts anyone is a VT. So part of me thinks he's seen the wagon and has decided not to do anything about it.

The fact Jazzy hasn't shown up yet is interesting. If he's town does town nothing to accept your fate without your thoughts. Your thoughts will be lost and any actions will be lost as well. As part me doubts anyone is a VT. So part of me thinks he's seen the wagon and has decided not to do anything about it.

 

Jazzy was online last yesterday at 3:08pm

 

 

 

Jazzy95 (4): Velocity, lilweirdward, Imran Ehsan, Brewersalliance
 

 

TW posted this vote count at 2:45pm

 

 

So Jazzy was online and knows he is in danger of being lynched and chose not to post or defend himself

so you are correct, he has seen the wagon and has chosen to do nothing about it.

 

If he is town, shame on him.  

 

 you are not aesthetic, you are ugly, lol

 

this made me lol 

 

im insulted.  @tw i request a mod kill of both Mk for saying this and imran for laughing. this is a safe space

 

Zacch seems all of the place so I would like to get more of a baring on him.

 

I am still about 50/50 on Robert but learning town with him.

 

MK is giving me a feeling that something is off with him. It really seems like he is trying to lay low and he targeted Velocity really early. 

Good to have your thoughts recorded. Most of this I agree with, though I'm less concerned with MK. His early targeting of Velocity on previous days sounds like it's an OOC thing, and his starting the Velocity wagon today made sense given how D2 ended. 

 

 

You got that right, i am not going to unvote on velocity

 

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SUS, like did you not read velocity's post? he has the mind stone.

I mean, he could be lying, but his lie rp contains the words mind stone, even then.

A little surprised by this though. You both see Velocity's role/believe it and also say you're not going to unvote? You don't feel scum to me but I don't get how you can have both stances simultaneously.

 

 

 

Jazzy was online last yesterday at 3:08pm

 

TW posted this vote count at 2:45pm

 

So Jazzy was online and knows he is in danger of being lynched and chose not to post or defend himself

so you are correct, he has seen the wagon and has chosen to do nothing about it.

 

If he is town, shame on him.  

If I'm being generous it's possible he hasn't had time to sit down and post, but the more time stretches out the less likely that becomes. Giving up without a word sounds almost like a scum confirmation, not wanting to say anything else that people will just suspect anyway or try to link him to scum partners.

Oh hey, I finally caught up! Just in time to be lynched...

 

 

 

How jazzy joined the Kevin wagon to me felt like where scum would be
 

As I said when I voted, I joined the bandwagon once it felt like KevinH gave up, which to me felt very unlike Kevin.

 

 

Vote: Jazzy
 

I find this to be an extremely odd vote. The first half of the day was spent on people saying "IF Velocity is scum, then Jazzy is likely scum too" and yet once town believes Velocity is safe, I become the primary target? Your first order logic is broken  :P

 

 

If he is town, shame on him.
 

So you're saying... I'm not worthy?

 

Vote: Brewers

 

I don't have evidence that Brewers is scum, I just have evidence that others aren't.


 

 

If I'm being generous it's possible he hasn't had time to sit down and post, but the more time stretches out the less likely that becomes. Giving up without a word sounds almost like a scum confirmation, not wanting to say anything else that people will just suspect anyway or try to link him to scum partners.
 

Sorry to double post (just count it as one), I missed this. I'm 10 hours ahead of my normal life right now and traveling with an itinerary, so I have been busy. Brewers mentioned I had logged on at 3:08 recently which would be right about when I'm wrapping up work so I may have just logged on and gotten distracted. But today was my first time actually reading any posts. 

I don't have evidence that Brewers is scum, I just have evidence that others aren't.

What evidence is that? If you're town and have something that could at least clear some townies for us, that would be really helpful.

 

 

Vote: Jazzy

I find this to be an extremely odd vote. The first half of the day was spent on people saying "IF Velocity is scum, then Jazzy is likely scum too" and yet once town believes Velocity is safe, I become the primary target? Your first order logic is broken :P

I don't think I ever said that? I thought you were suspicious because of how you tried to avoid putting your vote out there and then snuck in on the back of the Kevin wagon towards the end of the day, which felt a lot like what scum would do. I had my vote on Robert for most of the day though, and had been fairly consistent that I thought Velocity was suspicious but not my top target. So when it became clear that the choice was probably going to be between Velocity - someone who became an all but confirmed townie - and you, I switched to you. Not sure how that squares at all with what you're alleging happened.

 

 

What evidence is that? If you're town and have something that could at least clear some townies for us, that would be really helpful.

I actually probably shot myself in the foot here. Not that I lied, but that my role doesn't actually guarantee innocence. So revealing anything about the people I know information about could give scum fake ammo.

 

Logically I don't see Velocity unvoting me because iirc that would mean he's lynched, I don't think Brewers will unvote me because I voted him, I don't think lww will unvote as I have neither a good defense nor a good offense. Imran could unvote but again, I think that means Velocity is hung as he passed the threshold first, so without someone countering his RC that seems like too risky of a move. 

 

Town is gonna lose another town, may Hela have mercy on my soul.

 

What evidence is that? If you're town and have something that could at least clear some townies for us, that would be really helpful.

I actually probably shot myself in the foot here. Not that I lied, but that my role doesn't actually guarantee innocence. So revealing anything about the people I know information about could give scum fake ammo.

 

Logically I don't see Velocity unvoting me because iirc that would mean he's lynched, I don't think Brewers will unvote me because I voted him, I don't think lww will unvote as I have neither a good defense nor a good offense. Imran could unvote but again, I think that means Velocity is hung as he passed the threshold first, so without someone countering his RC that seems like too risky of a move. 

 

Town is gonna lose another town, may Hela have mercy on my soul.

 

 

youre about to be lynched.  just role claim and give us what you have, otherwise if you are town you will take it to the grave.  and then it gives us a shot of unvoting... you refusing to share makes it seem more likely that you are indeed scum

I’m Thor, an Avenger Role Cop.

 

Zacch and Lww are the two people I’d most likely vote for based on comments, but a result of bodyguard and cop has moved them off my list for now.

 

 

you are not aesthetic, you are ugly, lol

 

this made me lol

 

im insulted.  @tw i request a mod kill of both Mk for saying this and imran for laughing. this is a safe space

 

 

that was the point, duh :P

 

@mk

 

So you sound like you believe velocities claim but you won’t unvote?

 

Yeah MK is town lol

 

I don't think in velocity's claim, obviously. I think he is lying as always. The real vision probably too scared to come out, so maybe it's like someone cowardly (lily)

 

 

You got that right, i am not going to unvote on velocity

 

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SUS, like did you not read velocity's post? he has the mind stone.

I mean, he could be lying, but his lie rp contains the words mind stone, even then.

A little surprised by this though. You both see Velocity's role/believe it and also say you're not going to unvote? You don't feel scum to me but I don't get how you can have both stances simultaneously.

 

I don't believe his rp, see above.

 

I was just explaining to iSoc who was talking funny.

Like velocity said he has the mind stone and then isoc starts going off on "how you know you have the mind stone?"

When we can all see it on velocity's rp. so the logical endpoint is the mod must have told him he has the mind stone.

 

i don't think so, but the questions iSoc was asking was weird

Welp lol, that sucks. I mean it's possible that jazzy is a mafia role cop since I think that's reasonably common. I guess we'll find out in a few hours.

If we assume all four claims today are correct, that would leave us with the following:

 

1. ISOC (1): Town Doctor

2. KevinH: Town Voyeur

3. Tony: Town Jack of All Trades

4. Velocity: Town Watcher

5. Jazzy: Town Rolecop

6. Zacch: Town Bodygaurd

7. IWW: Town Cop

 

With 3 or 4 of the following people as scum:

 

1. Lord MK

2. Brewers

3. Robert

4. Lyner

5. Imran

6. Preston

7. darkfox

8. Isoc(2)

 

I’m Thor, an Avenger Role Cop.

 

Mainline character claim. It would be odd if someone isn't Thor.

 

This is also why I was asking about the lore in TW’s posts because he name dropped Thor early on which didn’t make sense to me

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