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[KH-29] Neighbors Dilemma Mafia - Odd SK Neighbor Wins!

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In fact, I probably could predict what your entire plan was: Today get the captain lynch who would likely pop even-night (before you try to again quote "cherry-picking," I've covered this is a likelihood, not a fact), and overnight you kill me while holding NE's ear. Tomorrow you use his suspicions of a quiet/inactive iSoc to seal lynch. Game over.

 

Hey NE, you will never be allowed to take off your newly minted clown makeup. I can't begin to describe how utterly stupid you are.

 

That is all.

 

 

calm down, you made the first mistake by lynching captain when you had the option of going no lynch. I mean you fought with me for pages on how we should not lynch cap but you still hammered him at the end...lol


 

from my night conversations with NE, I very much doubt NE is the SK. So that leaves iSoc to be the most likely SK. With LS turning up town that also reinforces this possibility.

 

Vote: iSocialism

Wow, you do leave out other scenarios. So if NE is not the SK... that leaves...

 

Vote Irman

 

also it is careless and scummy to come into the a LYLO day with a vote right away... now it's up to NE

 

 

it was pretty scummy yeah...lol but I was tired of arguing..LS drained me off at the end of last day. plus NE was pretty inclined to lynch you anyway, so I just left it up to him to decide.


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I was had! 

 

:)

 

i knew i should have lynched Iram when he didn't specifically state he was Town in our chat, 

 

i voted to lynch him and then changed it to Isoc before i submitted the post. 

 

to be fair, I strongly implied I am town even if I did not come right out and say it.

 

Last night I was actually toying with the idea of killing you and then trying to set up iSoc for the lynch, "I mean why would I kill my own neighbor...I am being set up!". But LS was too against me and probably wouldnt have agreed with me, plus I had no way of knowing what they discussed in the night. So the safest bet was to bank on you to put the hammer on iSoc since you already suspected him.


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I was had! 

 

:)

 

i knew i should have lynched Iram when he didn't specifically state he was Town in our chat, 

 

i voted to lynch him and then changed it to Isoc before i submitted the post. 

 

to be fair, I strongly implied I am town even if I did not come right out and say it.

 

Last night I was actually toying with the idea of killing you and then trying to set up iSoc for the lynch, "I mean why would I kill my own neighbor...I am being set up!". But LS was too against me and probably wouldnt have agreed with me, plus I had no way of knowing what they discussed in the night. So the safest bet was to bank on you to put the hammer on iSoc since you already suspected him.

 

your statement is 100% correct, the implication was there, but not the clear statement, and i did say i thought it was Isoc, so a very good play n your part.

as for LS, Dude, its a game, calm down, 



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There's a difference between being upset and being factual. I don't need to calm down because I'm simply not riled. But I'm not going to feign sympathy for you single-handedly losing this game if that's what you're trying to imply.

 

You didn't think before you act. You gave zero time for any sort of conversation with iSoc who very clearly states at the beginning of the day votes from town members should be reserved in LYLO. Imran responded to that quite literally doing the exact opposite, and yet you somehow thought that was a town move? Or the fact that the entire day yesterday he was picked apart for his very contradictory behavior. You took no time for that, let yourself only listen to one person that jabbered into your ear through the night, and then expect sympathy from anyone in the town for being the sole reason we lost? I'm not going to lie to your face, and if you want to try and deflect that as acting like I have some false anger then you're just lying to yourself.

 

Imran will try to defend you because you are the reason he won. If I hadn't lynched captain yesterday I bet you would've still followed Imran today since you seemed content on following both the SK leads all day. So at best we would've seen the game dragged out two more weeks in a deadlock and still ended at this point. Let's not forget yesterday you quite literally voted with the one person who was basically confirmed to be scum. What kind of town does that?

 

Like I said, you will get zero sympathy from me for being the one that lost us the game, especially with how easy of a win this should have been for the town.


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The fact the Imran came into the day without discussion meant he had an objective. An experience player as town would know to trust nothing and get some discussion with the start of the day. Voting for someone meant the felt safe to do so. As not thinking NE was not scum. The only way to be certain of that would to be scum
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From an outside perspective ...

 

All anybody really knew was that there were 2 Serial Killers, each paired with a Townie.

 

After Zacch was killed Night 1 and flipped Town, there was a 2/3 chance that his neighbor, Captainjf, was an SK (in fact he was an SK).

 

Day 2 was a no-lynch when it should have been a lynch of Captainjf if the town wanted to play the odds.

 

Night 2, Captainjf missed his kill but an argument could be made that it was for strategic reasons.  He was otherwise active so maybe a less active player was the Even SK.  Also, by keeping the players alive at 5, if there was a no-lynch the next day it would stay at 5, the Odd SK would kill Night 3 to bring the count to 4, another no-lynch would mean the Even SK would have the only shot in Night 4.

 

Day 3, Captainjf was lynched and that was the proper course of action for the town.

 

Night 3, LordSunday was killed.

 

Day 4 had 3 players alive, 1 of which was the remaining SK.  No amount of discussion would change the odds and each of the 2 townies had 50% chance of picking the SK for their vote.  After Imran and iSoc voted for each other, it became a clear 50% proposition for Northern Empire.  He guessed wrong, it's as simple as that.



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From an outside perspective ...

 

All anybody really knew was that there were 2 Serial Killers, each paired with a Townie.

 

After Zacch was killed Night 1 and flipped Town, there was a 2/3 chance that his neighbor, Captainjf, was an SK (in fact he was an SK).

 

Day 2 was a no-lynch when it should have been a lynch of Captainjf if the town wanted to play the odds.

 

Night 2, Captainjf missed his kill but an argument could be made that it was for strategic reasons.  He was otherwise active so maybe a less active player was the Even SK.  Also, by keeping the players alive at 5, if there was a no-lynch the next day it would stay at 5, the Odd SK would kill Night 3 to bring the count to 4, another no-lynch would mean the Even SK would have the only shot in Night 4.

 

Day 3, Captainjf was lynched and that was the proper course of action for the town.

 

Night 3, LordSunday was killed.

 

Day 4 had 3 players alive, 1 of which was the remaining SK.  No amount of discussion would change the odds and each of the 2 townies had 50% chance of picking the SK for their vote.  After Imran and iSoc voted for each other, it became a clear 50% proposition for Northern Empire.  He guessed wrong, it's as simple as that.

 

I thought I had more time for a night action, but it ended up being an entertaining path either way.

 

I can't believe the town would lynch me assuming I was the even-night SK due to the fact that I could not perform any action that night.

 

I feel for LS who was definitely played from my perspective.


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Day 4 had 3 players alive, 1 of which was the remaining SK.  No amount of discussion would change the odds and each of the 2 townies had 50% chance of picking the SK for their vote.  After Imran and iSoc voted for each other, it became a clear 50% proposition for Northern Empire.  He guessed wrong, it's as simple as that.

 

Agreed with this part. No amount of discussion would have really changed NE's perspective specially when iSoc did not post much the earlier days and looked like a scum trying to stay under the radar.

 

By the way, you are completely wrong when you say "I was the one who whispered into NEs ears at night" and made him vote for iSoc. In fact, NE was suspicious of you and iSoc both from earlier days, specially iSoc (he voted for him repeatedly, you can go and check). I just went along. iSoc made no case for why he was not the SK and simply left it up to NE to decide (as I did) and your posts were also contradictory on D3 coupled with your hammer. So basically you guys could not convincingly make the case that I was in fact the SK, enough to change NEs mind. 


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By the way, you are completely wrong when you say "I was the one who whispered into NEs ears at night" and made him vote for iSoc. In fact, NE was suspicious of you and iSoc both from earlier days, specially iSoc (he voted for him repeatedly, you can go and check). I just went along. iSoc made no case for why he was not the SK and simply left it up to NE to decide (as I did) and your posts were also contradictory on D3 coupled with your hammer. So basically you guys could not convincingly make the case that I was in fact the SK, enough to change NEs mind. 

 

actually if you look at my vote record 

i voted to Lynch Isoc several times, 

I believed that you had been quiet as a strategy to fly under the radar.

 

if anything I was pushing for it, which in retrospect played right into Imrans hands, so he was like - sure , yea, sounds good, 

which i should have picked up on, but didnt







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