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[CanucksDynasty]

and as i've said before i had to do my role claim a little bit at a time

i know for a fact that if i came right out with "hi i'm a doctor that has no control of who i protect and cant protect anyone of my choice until the person controlling me dies" would have gotten me lynched on the spot.

if EM didnt reveal his control aspect i would have never said anything about mine

That bolded sentence is true.
We might have reached a majority lynch prior to SJ roleclaim with that.

[Falzis]

Let's see. A proven scum has said he can't control his actions (EM). A doc role claim says he can't control his actions (AoD). A proven townie can control his actions (SJ) - proven townie because he was right in EM being scum and that he can control his actions because he was able to investigate EM on N1.

HMM

[CanucksDynasty]

Let's see. A proven scum has said he can't control his actions (EM). A doc role claim says he can't control his actions (AoD). A proven townie can control his actions (SJ) - proven townie because he was right in EM being scum and that he can control his actions because he was able to investigate EM on N1.

HMM

I know, I know...
I'm re-reading alot of posts right now.

4 pro-town roles (ie. vig, seer, doc, controller) seems alot for a 12 person game.

I thought about maybe an independent wizard that was able to either sk or doc protect (that would explain both EM and AOD claim of someone controlling them). That could explain only one nk (made by mafia) if EM wasn't used and the independant wizard protected themself during the first night. But that just seems so complicated.

[Sir Jesus]

Let's see. A proven scum has said he can't control his actions (EM). A doc role claim says he can't control his actions (AoD). A proven townie can control his actions (SJ) - proven townie because he was right in EM being scum and that he can control his actions because he was able to investigate EM on N1.

HMM

I SWEAR TO GOD NOBODY LISTENS TO ME. I CANNOT CONTROL MY POWERS. GAHHHHHH.

Maybe if I make it bigger people will actually listen and stop classifying me as a "cop."

[junkahoolik]

We know that EM was a SK. We know that only one nk was done on N1. So...

1. What EM said is true that he was controlled thus only one nk.
2. EM is lying and purposely didn't nk during the night.

Based on that, I'm thinking EM was telling the truth.

So we have a confirmed SK (1 scum). Now I agree that number of scum for a 12 player game is most likely 3 (comprising of 2 mafia and 1 sk). However, I don't see how you would come up with 4. The 2 mafia could easily be the ones controlling EM thus it still remains as 3 scum.
It really depends on how the game was setup.

uum... EM didn't nk cause he got lynched... and why give so much power to the mafia?? if they are indeed the ones controlling EM, wouldn't that mean 2 kills/night?? the only explication i found for EM's post that someone is controlling him is that there are 2 sk and someone is controlling them both. and he has only 1 night action. that's it... other scenarios are just too complicated to be true.

but that could mean quite a few power roles like... maybe... trackers and watchers... or maybe not
frankly, i'm confused

[CanucksDynasty]

I SWEAR TO GOD NOBODY LISTENS TO ME. I CANNOT CONTROL MY POWERS. GAHHHHHH.

Maybe if I make it bigger people will actually listen and stop classifying me as a "cop."

This game is confusing.

Umm...you never stated that you cannot control your powers. You said that you could see into souls. Are you being controlled like AOD?
If that is truly the case then I will have to believe in AOD roleclaim then.

[CanucksDynasty]

uum... EM didn't nk cause he got lynched... and why give so much power to the mafia?? if they are indeed the ones controlling EM, wouldn't that mean 2 kills/night?? the only explication i found for EM's post that someone is controlling him is that there are 2 sk and someone is controlling them both. and he has only 1 night action. that's it... other scenarios are just too complicated to be true.

but that could mean quite a few power roles like... maybe... trackers and watchers... or maybe not
frankly, i'm confused

EM didn't nk for N2 cuz he was lynched. But who did the nk on N1? If EM (a sk) was of his own free will...why wouldn't there be 2 nk instead of 1 on N1?

I'm not sure what to make of anything right now since SJ said he can't control his powers either.

[Falzis]

I SWEAR TO GOD NOBODY LISTENS TO ME. I CANNOT CONTROL MY POWERS. GAHHHHHH.

Maybe if I make it bigger people will actually listen and stop classifying me as a "cop."

Huh? Really? Well sorry if the impression I got was otherwise. So how did you "investigate" EM?

[Falzis]

Oh and who did you "investigate" on N2? By investigate I would mean accidentally see the soul (since you said you can't control your power). >.>

This is confusing.

[CanucksDynasty]

For my purposes...

Who I think are townies
Sir Jesus - pro-town...convinced us to get rid of EM.
Kaziocore - 2nd vote on EM ... could be a possible distancing vote but at this point unlikely.
mole - requested deadline extension for D2 (I doubt scum would want deadline to be extended) but voted for KevinH and AOD
Aquinas - unvoted AOD to prevent a quick lynch and my gut feeling.
angel of doom - roleclaim doc with similar limitations as SJ.

Who I think have a higher % of being scum
Junkahoolik - switched his vote to EM...could be that he realized it was a lost cause and tries to fit in with the town.
Falzis - not sure
Theopolis - was the 5th vote on KevinH before I unvoted...hasn't weighed in on AOD or EM prior to SJ roleclaim...maybe trying to blend in.

Dead
Electric Mango - sk
KevinH - pro-town vig
Martino - townie

I will be voting either one of them (Junkahoolik, Falzis, or Theopolis).

[Sir Jesus]

Huh? Really? Well sorry if the impression I got was otherwise. So how did you "investigate" EM?

Dude, I'm sorry about that. I just read through the thread and did not find my post. I made a huge post explaining my entire situation, but apparently the forums didn't register it.

For me, everything is done through chance.

[CanucksDynasty]

Dude, I'm sorry about that. I just read through the thread and did not find my post. I made a huge post explaining my entire situation, but apparently the forums didn't register it.

For me, everything is done through chance.

Can you repost it?
So do you have any leads/guesses/suspicions?

[CanucksDynasty]

Weekend is here.
Posting my 48 hr absence notice.
I'll check in but proabably won't post much.

Please please no quick lynches.
It screwed us in the past games.
If you must...put forth a FOS instead of a vote listing your reasons.

Again...please no quick lynches.

[Kaziocore]

EM didn't nk for N2 cuz he was lynched. But who did the nk on N1? If EM (a sk) was of his own free will...why wouldn't there be 2 nk instead of 1 on N1?

I'm not sure what to make of anything right now since SJ said he can't control his powers either.

Because EM can't use his powers while he's controller is still alive. See Backup.
If we were unlucky and we lynched the controller first, maybe two players will die each night.

I'm guessing that if his controller survived the whole game, EM will win with the mafia
But if his controller died, his win condition will be to kill everyone.

[CanucksDynasty]

Because EM can't use his powers while he's controller is still alive. See Backup.
If we were unlucky and we lynched the controller first, maybe two players will die each night.

I'm guessing that if his controller survived the whole game, EM will win with the mafia
But if his controller died, his win condition will be to kill everyone.

Nice find.
Not sure if that is the case here but I don't really know as I've never played a game with these twists.

[junkahoolik]

well, considering what Em, SJ and Aod said, now i do believe his role claim. i just don't know who is scum... CD does a really good job at following the cop... so i think he's protown. mole, haven't heard from him today... the rest i really don't know what to believe about them.

[molestargazer]

Apologies for my absence, got struck down with flu or something on friday.
I'll catch up either today or tomorrow.

[junkahoolik]

well, i've been thinking, has anyone seen theo lately?? i'm casting absence FOSon him...

[angel of doom]

i saw him on the forum earlier so i think he's either lost interest or or lurking

[angel of doom]

@narsis can we get a prod

@theo when you get back i dont wanna see a " i'm going to read and get back to you" kind of post then not see you again for days at a time

FoS: Theo