Another day, another plane. Captain "Anger-Management" Tilden (As he was known secretly by the crew) had always been proud of how he handled the flights on his plane. Always smooth, orderly, and comfortable for the passengers. And he intended to keep it that way, he reflected, carrying his bags through the airport terminal. Today's flight was to be a tedious one over the atlantic. But never mind.

 

Got to keep alert, he mused as his bags went through a scanner. Terrorists were everywhere these days. The takeoff was, as always, impeccable. The passengers seemed fairly happy, apart from that hungover one complaining about the lack of painkillers, and Tilden settled himself down for a smooth flight.

 

A few hours into the flight, the door to the cockpit was nudged open, breaking the silence. Tilden stiffened. It was probably that flight attendant. It was no secret amongst the crew that Tilden had a thing for her. But he didn't care. He wasn't about to ruin his chances by shouting again.

"Ah, Marie, could you-"

 

That was as far as he got. Looking at the reflection in the window, he saw a man in plain clothes. A passenger? He was striding up to Tilden with purpose. Tilden's eyes widened as he saw the flash of a blade. He opened his mouth to speak, but couldn't. A knife was swiftly drawn across his throat. He choked, swiftly passing into unconsciousness.

 

And yet no-one noticed the 2 dead pilots in the cockpit. Marie, the flight attendant, was about halfway through serving drinks. She glanced to the left, flashed a fake smile to the passenger before seeing he was unconscious.

She sighed, and rolled her eyes, recognising the passenger as the one with the hangover. She was about to turn away, when something caught her eye. Had he spilt coffee on himself? She sighed again, reaching for some napkins.

 

Wait. That wasn't coffee.

She screamed, noticing the blood spread out over the man's torso. The passenger's heads turned round to look at her. The man's pocket identified him as a Police officer.

 

It was happening again...

 

PLANE CRASH II

 

ALIVE (Italics indicates confirmation)

1. Narsis

3. Electric Mango

8. AKCPLUTO

9. Falzis

11. Aquinas

12. CanucksDynasty

13. Martino

 

DEAD

'Anger Management' Tilden, Pilot, slashed N0.

Nameless Copilot, slashed N0.

Nameless Hungover Cop, stabbed N0.

crazyemolad, TOWNIE, lynched D1.

Junkahoolik, TOWNIE, lynched D2.

KevinH, TOWNIE, stabbed N2.

Sir Jesus, TOWNIE, lynched D3.

Kaziocore, TOWNIE, killed N3.

Junkahoolik II, TOWNIE, killed N4.

Edited February 11, 201016 yr by molestargazer

I don't get it.

 

Why roleblock Narsis when mafia could just kill him instead?

Did mafia think that both Narsis and KevinH had power roles?

 

Maybe mafia thought Kevin was a cop because of his "the-cop-should-leave-hints" post where he stated people should post a template of the cop's investigation, which he did so himself.

Maybe mafia thought Kevin was a cop because of his "the-cop-should-leave-hints" post where he stated people should post a template of the cop's investigation, which he did so himself.

 

 

Maybe so...but why roleblock Narsis then?

These are the votes...

 

junkahoolik (4): Martino, Firkked, Aquinas, Kaziocore

SinKon (4): Falzis, CanucksDynasty, Narsis, Sir Jesus

KevinH (2): Electric Mango, SinKon

Sir Jesus (1): KevinH

Narsis (1): Junkahoolik

 

I'm inclined to believe that one voted for junkahoolik, one voted for Sinkon, and one vote for the others.

 

That said...I think it be Kaziocore, Sir Jesus, and SinKon.

 

 

Hmm...Kazio wants (or at least suggests) Narsis to roleclaim and Sir Jesus thinks Narsis is 70% of being mafia.

A roleblocker could be a townie?

 

I played one game with a townie roleblocker.

But that game also had a mafia roleblocker as well.

I'm inclined to think that Narsis is pro-town. I think it was CD who said that Narsis was under no real pressure of being lynched and therefore had no reason to say what he did unless it was the truth. Of course there's always the WIFOM factor.

 

Why was Narsis selected to be role blocked?

 

Narsis and KevinH (also Falzis) shared the same room. KevinH was targeted for murder and I'm assuming they role blocked Narsis so he couldn't stop the nk. So why role block Narsis over Falzis? Either Falzis is scum or they believed that Narsis was more likely to have a power role.

 

 

a few things to clear up:

 

first, i'm neither confirming nor denying that i have a power role. best to leave the mafia guessing.

 

secondly, i have no idea why mole sent me a pm. however, from the wording in it and my knowledge of mole as a mod and roleblockers in previous games...i find it safe to assume that i was roleblocked.

 

third, i'm not 100% sure that it was the person who roleblocked me that i heard enter the room. however, and again basing this off my knowledge of mole, it likely was that role.

 

fourth, the only reason i can think of for me being roleblocked is that the mafia assumed both me and Kevin had power roles and that Kevin had a more powerful role. most likely an investigative one. if they thought anything else, then i likely would have been nk'd and Kevin left for the mob today.

Hmm...Kazio wants (or at least suggests) Narsis to roleclaim and Sir Jesus thinks Narsis is 70% of being mafia.

 

Hmmm...maybe because i was referring this which you think is me as suggesting him to roleclaim

 

Will the mafia get a notification that they blocked someone from committing a night action or not? If they do get a notification then Narsis is really forced to role claim.

 

to his post before that he was roleblocked... it's like an implicit roleclaim to me. Also EM also considered his post as roleclaim...

 

So for trying to make it look like I'm scum just based on the poor wording of my sentence or something...

 

FOS: CD

 

you again...

just thought i'd add:

 

personally, i think that it was a mafia roleblocker. yes it could have been a town roleblocker but:

 

a) the majority of the town would have put me as a townie as of last night.

town roleblockers are rare and pretty weak.

 

something that is still bugging me though is why did they roleblock me when they killed Kevin? is it a coincidence that i was in the same room as him? although when i think about it, Falzis couldn't have roleblocked me and nk'd Kevin. so it seems obvious that power roles aren't limited to their and adjacent rooms.

 

something else to think about: if it was indeed a mafia roleblocker as i'm guessing then there is likely some pro town power roles in existence...

Maybe they thought that you are a doc and KH is a cop?

I wonder about our rule change now. Is it possible that anti-town power roles can use their powers from room to room but, townies are limited to the room they assign themselves to? This would tip the game in favor of the mafia but, it might help clear up the role block situation. It seems to me that the scum would find Narsis to be a more likely candidate for the doctor than Falzis, according to his outspoken town behavior. This would mean if they wanted to kill KevinH they had the option to role-block Narsis or Falzis because blocking other rooms wouldn't make sense if they doctor had to be there to prevent the night kill. Just something to think about. Falzis is playing dumb now about the situation. Maybe Falzis wasn't informed or roleblocked because he is scum trying to look innocent...

 

If the rules don't work our that the rooms some how limit someones power role I don't understand why they would still exist. Its seems like we're not getting to lucky on this whole item thing and even with items they could be randomly assigned without rooms.

 

VOTE COUNT

 

 

Not Voting (10): Narsis, Electric Mango, Samus, Sir Jesus, SinKon, Falzis, Kaziocore, Aquinas, CanucksDynasty, Martino

 

With 10 Alive, 6 is needed to lynch.

Edited December 21, 200916 yr by molestargazer

FOS: Falzis

Well I don't know what happened really but I agree that mafia could have thought KevinH was cop because of his cop post and Narsis could have been doc that's why they were NKed and RBed respectively.

 

What I know is that it can't be both true that scum can 1. move anywhere to do night actions and 2. do night actions only in their room. If two persons in my room were both recipients of night action, then one of the scum couldn't have been inside the room if you assume I am one of the scum.

 

That is also assuming that Narsis is telling the truth (claiming he was roleblocked could be a ruse, I know it's unlikely since I also place Narsis as pro-town but you never know!). Or it could be a ploy by mafia to shift the discussion to room placements and me.

Well I don't know what happened really but I agree that mafia could have thought KevinH was cop because of his cop post and Narsis could have been doc that's why they were NKed and RBed respectively.

 

What I know is that it can't be both true that scum can 1. move anywhere to do night actions and 2. do night actions only in their room. If two persons in my room were both recipients of night action, then one of the scum couldn't have been inside the room if you assume I am one of the scum.

 

That is also assuming that Narsis is telling the truth (claiming he was roleblocked could be a ruse, I know it's unlikely since I also place Narsis as pro-town but you never know!). Or it could be a ploy by mafia to shift the discussion to room placements and me.

 

 

IF we are assuming Narsis is telling the truth.

Then indeed, there is no room movement restrictions.

And there are at least 2 mafia...one to roleblock Narsis and one to nk KevinH.

IF we are assuming Narsis is telling the truth.

Then indeed, there is no room movement restrictions.

And there are at least 2 mafia...one to roleblock Narsis and one to nk KevinH.

 

I'm guessing one Godfather, one roleblocker, one goon.

 

Mole said he may be putting twists on current roles or coming up with his own. Should be interesting to watch this develop.

 

I'm out of ideas on where to go next. I'm hoping for others to make some strong cases or plans.

So you suspect either:

 

KevinH and SJ

or

KevinH and EM

 

I take it then that you'll vote for KevinH tomorrow then?

 

considering how the night went...could you refresh my memory of why you said this?

I wonder about our rule change now. Is it possible that anti-town power roles can use their powers from room to room but, townies are limited to the room they assign themselves to? This would tip the game in favor of the mafia but, it might help clear up the role block situation. It seems to me that the scum would find Narsis to be a more likely candidate for the doctor than Falzis, according to his outspoken town behavior. This would mean if they wanted to kill KevinH they had the option to role-block Narsis or Falzis because blocking other rooms wouldn't make sense if they doctor had to be there to prevent the night kill. Just something to think about. Falzis is playing dumb now about the situation. Maybe Falzis wasn't informed or roleblocked because he is scum trying to look innocent...

 

If the rules don't work our that the rooms some how limit someones power role I don't understand why they would still exist. Its seems like we're not getting to lucky on this whole item thing and even with items they could be randomly assigned without rooms.

 

 

What are the odds that room assignements would have a cop, doc, and mafia in one room together?

That is the scenario you are painting.

 

Since we've covered all the rooms in the plane...I'm assuming items have been found and haven't been shared with everyone just yet.

What are the odds that room assignements would have a cop, doc, and mafia in one room together?

That is the scenario you are painting.

 

Since we've covered all the rooms in the plane...I'm assuming items have been found and haven't been shared with everyone just yet.

 

Sorry, I didn't mean to suggest that Narsis is the doctor. I only mean to show that Narsis would be perceived more likely to be the doctor than Falzis. I do not think that Narsis is necessarily the doctor but, that he would be an appropriate candidate to block. If the mafia were betting on someone I think it would likely be him.

 

Also, you're assuming that just being in a room allows you to acquire an item. It could be that you have to be in a room and then you have a % chance of coming across a useful item. This would make the most sense to me.

 

I'd just like to say I've been pretty sick these last couple days and been taking finals and going to work. I really don't mean to be picking any fights. I'm just thinking out loud not gunning for any definitive truth. That would be impossible in my current state.

Also, you're assuming that just being in a room allows you to acquire an item. It could be that you have to be in a room and then you have a % chance of coming across a useful item. This would make the most sense to me.

 

i agree with this.

considering how the night went...could you refresh my memory of why you said this?

 

Well first, you said this:

 

additionally i wouldnt be surprised if KevinH and SJ or Kevin and EM showed up as mafia. the votes they placed against each other feel like distancing votes to me.

 

So then I asked:

 

So you suspect either:

 

KevinH and SJ

or

KevinH and EM

 

I take it then that you'll vote for KevinH tomorrow then?

 

You replied:

 

maybe, maybe not. was planning on rereading a few things etc. besides you never know how the night or following day is going to go.

 

It seems pretty obvious that you thought Kevin was definitely someone you had suspicion of. I'm curious why you don't remember.

 

 

It seems pretty obvious that you thought Kevin was definitely someone you had suspicion of. I'm curious why you don't remember.

 

indeed i remember. but what i dont know is what you were thinking/why you said that. what information did you hope to gain? and how does that information benefit the town?

Sorry, I didn't mean to suggest that Narsis is the doctor. I only mean to show that Narsis would be perceived more likely to be the doctor than Falzis. I do not think that Narsis is necessarily the doctor but, that he would be an appropriate candidate to block. If the mafia were betting on someone I think it would likely be him.

 

 

OK...let's try that again.

 

We know that mafia nk KevinH. Why? Possibly because they suspect him of having a power-role (like a cop as someone previous suggested). Then Narsis claims he was roleblocked. Why? Possibly because they suspect him of having a power role (as a doc). And then you suggested Falzis as a possible mafia. Hence your FOS on him.

 

Is it possible that Falzis is mafia? Yes.

 

IF mafia were thinking that either KevinH or Narsis were the cop...then chances are Falzis would have been found out on N2. To prevent that from happening...both were essentially nullifed. A bit of a reach...but certainly plausible.

 

 

OK...let's try that again.

 

We know that mafia nk KevinH. Why? Possibly because they suspect him of having a power-role (like a cop as someone previous suggested). Then Narsis claims he was roleblocked. Why? Possibly because they suspect him of having a power role (as a doc). And then you suggested Falzis as a possible mafia. Hence your FOS on him.

 

Is it possible that Falzis is mafia? Yes.

 

IF mafia were thinking that either KevinH or Narsis were the cop...then chances are Falzis would have been found out on N2. To prevent that from happening...both were essentially nullifed. A bit of a reach...but certainly plausible.

 

not necessarily. as the roleblock pm proves, power roles are not limited to their and adjacent rooms. thus it's quite likely that me or Kevin would have investigated outside the room.

 

indeed i remember. but what i dont know is what you were thinking/why you said that. what information did you hope to gain? and how does that information benefit the town?

 

KevinH and SJ

or

KevinH and EM

 

I believed at the time that KevinH was our best lynch candidate yesterday. After junkahoolic was lynched, you named Kevin in two possible scum scenarios. If he was lynched and found to be scum, then according to you, we would have 2 excellent candidates for tomorrow's lynch as well. You placed and held the 3rd vote on Sinkon, when you could have placed the 3rd vote on KevinH instead.

 

KevinH seemed like a much better target then junkahoolic and I was wondering why you did not change your vote. I found it suspicious and wanted more information.

 

 

 

 

not necessarily. as the roleblock pm proves, power roles are not limited to their and adjacent rooms. thus it's quite likely that me or Kevin would have investigated outside the room.

 

 

True...but at the beginning...one of the reasons for grouping in rooms was so the cop can investigate his roomies. The mafia may have thought would also continue onto N2.

I believe Narsis is telling the truth, because he is not on the chopping block, so if he were a mafia, he wouldn't need to risk a fake claim . So, he gains nothing from lying?

 

I don't see him being able to gain anything, if he were a mafia, by telling us this.

Oh...man going in circle is tiring. Narsis is going to die anyway.

 

If Narsis is not the cop, the real cop will investgate him and Narsis will be lynched the next day, or if he is the doctor, then he is dead.

Anyway, if he is the cop, he will be targeted next.

If he is not the cop, he will still be targeted, because he is the doctor.

If he doesn't die during the night, he will be lynched, for suspicion for being a mafia

Basically, Narsis will be the next to die.

 

Unless, you prove yourself to be the cop and the doctor will definitely protects you.

So Narsis, who have you investigated? You voted for me last time so I know you didn't investigate me. Who are the mafias? Found any? Who are the townies? Tell us your power, you are dead anyway.

Kevin got killed, I have no idea who could be a mafia anymore. Why would the mafia kill Kevin?

 

Why would you assume Narsis will be dead?

Your round about way of asking Narsis to roleclaim is a bit disturbing.