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As far as deviating from the plan, I was saying it for this reason. Let's say Jesus is shot and is town. That makes it 5-2. Then that shooter is shot and it becomes 4-2. Anytime after this could be seen as an opportunity for the scum and to possibly create confusion. I don't know if they'd go that early or not, but this is the earliest I would expect them to try something, provided that both are still alive at that point. Also provided it's 2 scum and not 3, but as mentioned 2 still seems the most likely. If we can follow the plan, that's all good. I'm just trying to look at it worse case scenario.

Whoever shoots Jesus, if he's scum, we're looking good. If not, we should probably deviate from the plan and discuss who we think are scum from there. Going in order is obviously favorable, but depending on the situation, it may not be feasible. We should probably start discussing what happens in that scenario.

I'm just looking for his opinion on him. I have my own suspicions as to why EM could be scum, but looking for other outlooks really. More so to plan for the future.

But why do you say he's taking control? If it's because of his plan, Kevin / Narsis had similar plans as well.

You still haven't answered my question Jesus.

Only the cool people? I guess I'll leave you guys alone now.

Is the mafia trying to bribe me? And it's not even an orange cake. Bribe failed.

@Jesus - Why do you think necessarily that EM is scum and that we should go for him over either you or anybody else?

Right. But if Jesus is scum, look at it this way. An unused bullet would also hurt scum (if said bullet came from their team). And Jesus, thinking he might be dead one way or the other, figured it was just best to go out, all guns a blazing.

@EM - I understand you wanting to kill off Jesus right now (god I keep sounding silly...), but it's as CD said, he can't harm us. I'd have to think right now, his death is most likely inevitable. However, we can at least get who he thinks is scum and go from there.

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@Jesus - You're right that you can't harm us anymore as far as getting off any more kills. However, if we kill somebody other then you, that means another bullet not used. And as mentioned previously by somebody, every unused bullet hurts the town's chances. And as far as I can tell, Aquinas was going to wait to see if anybody agreed on killing you. And I don't think anybody would respond to that segment too soon in a favor of gaining more time. Also, irrational or not, I do think that A) it was too quick, B ) you could have waited before killing him. There is the thought though, that if Aquinas was scum, he could sacrifice himself to get you, making a easier kill for the scum, and then hopefully the town would kill each other in quick succession. But I wouldn't think scum would do something like that so early. Where even a stray bullet could easily kill the remaining member. Or falling in the wrong spot in the pecking order. All sorts of risks, that in my opinion, would not be worth it.

I keep splitting up my posts right now trying to spew them out really fast. But: 1. I agree with Mango about killing Jesus next. (if he couldn't tell from earlier). 2. I'll offer myself to be a candidate to do the kill (unless CD or Curufinwe would like to have the honors, then we'll decide from there.).

Another thing Falzis I forgot to explain. People have me on their unsure list (or at least it appears that way). I figure if I claim I'm going to shoot Jesus (that sounds kind of silly saying that out loud if you think about it), the others who might be considering it will wait to see if I do it which possibly buys us a little time. Also, if people are unsure later on, I think that could hurt us. Let's say you have Mango, Kevin, Narsis and myself. Being the unsure from that list, somebody might go for me, scum would fire their last bullet causing a 1:1 tie (in a possible scenario). The way I see it, if we get 4 people who people think have a very good chance of being pro-town, it causes more thinking and discussion and my hope is, it would give us the higher chance to find the last scum.

Calm down Falzis, I didn't say I was going to shoot him just yet. And I was trying to get that post off a bit quickly, not sure how things were going to break out next. But if you couldn't tell from the message, Jesus would appear to be a good target. Irrational quick bullet, and mango (unless I'm mistaken) didn't have a good feel on him either. I can understand Jesus not wanting to die early, so he could be townie making irrational decisions, but if he was townie, I would like to think he wouldn't have been so quick and maybe try to explain himself. In all honesty, I like Aquinas's post. And from what happened, I like it even better. Sacrifice yourself for the better of the town. And thinking about, I have a high feeling on Jesus being scum right now.

So he's town. Before I do anything, I will say that Kevin and Narsis are at the top of my list of pro-town. Mango I'm unsure on. Seems protown, but keeps flip flopping on myself along with his win condition post (#22 for reference). Aside from that, unsure off hand on anybody else.

Well, once we find out if Aquinas is town, I'll go ahead and shoot Jesus then. Otherwise, if Aquinas is scum, I'll hold off until later obviously. Seeing how people are unsure about me, I figure I'll just go ahead and make that open. And then we (or the remaining town members) can go from there. I will mention though if I don't get the chance later, when I was wondering if people wanted to volunteer to be among the last to kill, I was hoping to see if I could trap scum. Doesn't look like that plan of action is going to work.

I'd be a bit weary myself. If I was going to consider that as an option of who might be scum, who might not, the earlier they offered the better. Now if people do it, it might just be to look good, but I'd be very skeptical of the later ones that do it. Like Mango said, somebody might be trying to throw us off their trail. Although I wonder how likely that possibility is, as you would think that the mafia would try and stay alive as long as possible so they can do a quick double shot (if possible) and gain the win that way later on.