Narsis

yes. the town does not win if we outnumber the scum and no bullets are left. i believe the scum win in that situation. also that's odd. i copied the list from moles post.

Alive: 1. Sir Jesus ( ) 3. vgmmaster (Bullet) 4. Curufinwe (Bullet) 7. CanucksDynasty ( ) 9. KevinH (Bullet) Not: molestargazer, MAYOR, shot dead in the night. Aquinas, TOWNIE, shot dead. Electric Mango, TOWNIE, shot dead. Falzies, TOWNIE, shot dead. Alright...so let's use some logic shall we? First, one of SJ or CD has to be scum. Unless the scum are stupid enough to not have shot the two townies with bullets by now, then that has to be true. Why? Because scum could win the game right now if they both had bullets left. Personally, my gut says SJ. So the question now becomes...who shoots him? To be honest...my gut seems to keep saying that Kevin is scum. It has been for a fair part of the game. People have been giving him a free pass more or less simply because he suggested a plan that was considered game-breaking. However, in the mafaiscumwiki that very strategy is listed as one of the game-breaking methods for Texas Justice.(http://mafiascum.net/wiki/index.php?title=Texas_Justice) Anyone that was willing to do a bit of research could have easily seen that. So anyway...I think that Kevin should shoot SJ.

hmmm...tomorrow i should have some time to run through teh maths. i'll let you guys know my thoughts then...

hmmm... hmmm... hmmm... i wonder... if vgm shoots SJ... hmmm... i'll need to think on this a bit more...

sure why not...

death by swallowing radioactive substances.

just thought i'd mention that with the upcoming war and all...mafia is going to fall to the bottom of my list of things to do.

but even if they are scum...there's nothing wrong with hearing their opinion. how else can you catch scum...?

i'd rather not have vgm shoot right away after Canucks. you never know what might come up... to be honest...i don't see why we can't let Falzis and SJ have somewhat of a say in who fires...it could actually be beneficial.

then my vote goes to...CD.

who says i'm undecided? i just haven't placed my vote down yet...

actually Kevin...it's worse then that. if both scum have their bullets they could win it right now if they were smart... i'll let you all know how later...

a part of me believes that one of SJ or Falzis is scum. why? because if both scum still had their bullets left they could have easily won the game by now. i won't say how if they still do have their bullets...but i doubt it.

true.

hmm...to be honest i kinda think CD should. she's the lowest person with a bullet on my list...

oh crap oh crap oh crap... unless one of SJ or Falzis is scum...the town very well could have lost... oh crap oh crap oh crap...

interesting...interesting indeed. i shall await EM's alignment with much enthusiasm...

i also think Falzis would be best but...i want to hear some more opinions before i put my vote down so to speak.

well...you acted rashly and aggressively and although provoked no one else had shown any support for Aquinas. usually that shows scum or a powerrole. since there are no powerroles...

without his bullet SJ is a burden to the town. numbers at the end of the day mean little. it's all about the bullets. we could outnumber the mafia entirely, but if both sides have no bullets, mafia win. thus even a player without a bullet is a burden and dangerous.

if SJ does turn up to be a townie...then we may need to deviate from the plan. the reason: if his shooter is also townie and we shoot him and the scum is smart then the town just lost the game. thus, after SJ is shot and if he turns up townie...then we need to choose extremely carefully who we shoot next and who shoots them. deviating from the plan at that point could be the only way to win.

the only problem is that if SJ is townie and the next shooter is townie...then the scum will more or less win. we need to choose who shoots right or we are in a bit of a pickle.

whoever is scummiest. personally, i have this odd feeling towards you and Kevin. but it's the town's decision not mine to make.

i'm sick of you saying that the plan is so illogical and yet not saying why. sure scum would shoot a townie with a bullet if they are next in line to shoot someone without a bullet, but that still isn't a problem at this point in time. in fact, by the time it would become a problem, the scum would have the capacity to win the game. also, i find it slightly unnerving and a bit suspicious that you are attempting to coax EM into shooting you.

indeed. but there was meant to be discussion not impulse killing! impulse killing is the one "weakness" of my plan so to speak. especially townies that were stupid enough to impulse kill...i pray that SJ is scum else that was probably one of the stupidest moves in townie history... and yes i'm a little ticked off right now...