Imran Ehsan

Also I am not sure where you got the 2-shot cop role from.

So the flaw in your reasoning for coming forward makes people a target for you. And since when did the scum ever avoid hitting an inactive. Below is my take on it, do you accept that as a possibility? There may have been flaws in my reasoning but it was not for the 4th option. The 4th option is so unlikely that it didnt even cross my mind when I proposed the 3 scenarios. As I said in my last post the probability of two factions hitting the same exact person is extremely low. Plus when you add in the fact that the targetted person was an inactive member on Day 1, the probability of scum hitting that target is almost 0. Scum will always want to ensure that townies are dominated by inactives and people who make no attempt at scum hunting. This is a very clear strategy and I dont see any scenario where the scum will kill an inactive as opposed to an active (and probable PR) townie. The fact that you are denying this, makes me very suspicious of you. My message will be pretty useful to the Jailkeeper in fact. He now knows that the player he targetted last night is either sure scum or sure townie. He will just need to monitor the next couple of days play to find out which. This all smells dirty, the Jailkeeper if there one should not do anything about this until we at least know what side Imran is on, hence Imran has to die for the info to earn credit. And even then it is questionable how true it is, but if we're desperate and have no other leads then perhaps we should lynch that person he Jailed on Night 1 given that Imran is revealed to be not scum. I never proposed the Jailkeeper to reveal himself and his target. My info was given to him, in case I died in the night. I really dont believe the Vig is a very pro-town character. I have a higher chance to kill townies as compared to hitting scum. So the best use of my ability is to reveal the little info I can to the town. Me being a Vig and killing people randomly on Day 4 or Day 5 doesnt really help the townies that much I feel. If there were 2 kills in the night, I would not have role-claimed.

By the way for those arguing that Nearu was targetted by Mafia, just that argument coming from you makes me almost sure you are one of the scum. Why would Mafia hit Nerau? He was one of the most inactives on Day 1. There is almost 0 probability that Nerau was targetted by the scum as well as me.

OK to address some of the points: 1. I am not asking the jailkeeper to roleclaim today. In fact, that will be a very bad play. I just gave him this information as otherwise he would not have known. 2. Why did I not hold back my kills? Because there is a very high probability I will get lynched or killed in the night. It is almost pointless holding on to my kills and hope I survive till the end-game where I can use my kills to make a difference. No. My stance has always been inactive townies are bad for the town and when town dithered and argued and basically did no scum hunt on Day 1 and ended up not lynching, it was time for me to take out one of the inactives. 3. Why did I chose Nerau? Because there were 3 people voting for him at the end of the day. And if Nerau turned up scum, it would have given us the most info from the voting records. Another choice was DarkIce but CS's switch of vote at the end there was pretty interesting. I wanted to see if Nerau turned up scum..that will mean theres a good chance CS is scum. 4. I dont expect to live through too many days. I will use my last shot to take out another guy tonight unless the jailkeeper stops me. In any case, I want the town to scum hunt and not sit around and dither. So I will be using my shots early at targets which will give info to the town.

I am going to role-claim. I will also explain why I am role-claiming. I am the 2-shot Vigilante. I used one of my shots to take out Nerau last night. So the scum did not kill him. Why am I role-claiming? Because there were no other kills in the night. Why were there no other kills. There are 3 possibilities: 1. Scum did not send in any kills I dont see any reason why they will not. There are 10 townies against their 3 scum. There were no lynches on Day 1 so they need to kill at night to reduce the number of townies and also to take out the PRs. Theres a possibility they were inactive but I dont buy 3 scum going inactive all at once. Another possibility is they assumed I as the Vig will make a kill and it will look like the scum killed the target. Therefore they didnt use their kill ability. However, I dont see any reason why this will help them. So its a very small probability that they went this way. 2. Scum tried to kill but failed This looks like the best possibility to me. As there are no doctors or roleblockers in the game, this means there is a Jailkeeper in the game and he it gold on Night 1. Scum who was supposed to send in the kill was jailed and hence he could not kill any townies. 3. I am scum Of course some may argue that I am lying and that I am in fact the scum who killed Nerau. If I was scum however, I would not reveal that it was I who killed Nerau. There is no need to, just to confuse the town. But I am listing it here as a 3rd possibility. So why did I role-claim? Because of #2 reason. I believe there is a jailkeeper and he jailed the real scum. However, since I also killed in the night, he will think the guy he jailed last night is innocent. I am role-claiming now to give info to him that he in-fact stopped a scum-kill. What he does with this information is upto him, but he needed to have this info unless I get killed in the night. In any case, this gives us some info to go over on this day. Lets hear everyone else's thoughts.

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Scum would like to talk less. Talking more means they may let slip something or say something which will become contradicted by their actions of future days. An active scum who posts a lot needs to play really really well as he has to balance being trying to look townie while angling for a lynch that favors them. A "No Lynch" option is hence a really bad option for Day 1. They dont need to take stances or vote against people..they can just hide themselves in the no lynch bandwagon.

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The useful info is from those who jumped on the bandwagon, from those who voted for someone else and those who voted no lynch. We get proper voting records and stances on the lynch from everyone while at the same time minimising the negative affect this has to the town..i.e. lynch an active player who is more likely to be a PR or a townie who is more likely to scum hunt. Lynching in inactive townie who does not contribute to the scum hunting is preferable. However, I did not say that lynching in inactive townie is better than lynching a scum. Lynching a scum is of course the best result..but it is almost impossible that you will hit scum on Day 1 with random voting and voting on "hunches". I prefer that if we lynch someone we lynch someone who is not contributing to the town. On the other hand, anyone who is actively advocating to lynch an active member on Day 1 with flimsy excuse is very likely to be scum.

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My way of operating is Lynch on Day 1 (not No Lynch). While choosing the target for the lynch, lynch the most inactive. Inactives harm the town not help the town even if they are townies. They are also less likely to be power roles, as has already been pointed out that VTs get easily bored. No lynch does not help the town because it gives us no info on Day 2 and we dont have any record of who jumped the bandwagon to lynch the towny (i am assuming it is likely a townie will get lynched over scum). So lynching an inactive town is the best option over non-lynching or lynching an active but scum looking player. As such, UNVOTE Vote: DarkIce Dragon Nerau is also an option but I would rather see two inactives as potential lynch candidates right now instead of one. If DarkIce becomes active I will switch my vote.

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I made a typo in my hyperlink. The link says june 13th which is a thursday, the timer is counting down to tuesday june 11th like I meant it to. I can extend the deadline to the 13th or just end the game tomorrow, the choice is yours, but I doubt it will make a difference. I just fixed this hyperlink in this post though. Way to give it away! Just kidding...i know it wouldnt have made a difference. Nice work everyone.

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