Imran Ehsan

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And yeah..strange moves from killgor. These are his last 3 posts: Vibes? On what basis? Nerau has been pretty inactive until lately. Also why the sudden unvoting and voting for Euclid? I dont necessary disagree. I have also found Euclid's posts suspicious..but care to explain more? What kind of reaction are you referring to here? Also...clarify with examples? Right now it seems like you are making short, grand statements without backing anything up?

Who else have you found suspicious on Day 1? Whats your feeling on lynching lurkers? Thoughts on who the vig should target on Night 1?

We still have a few days to go. We should not be bandwagoning votes on specific people until we have had more posts by the lurkers. The following have been very quite: RoT, Nerau, Xarastier (i notice he will be replaced, lets wait for his replacement before ending this day). Pressure should be put on these people in the form of votes..

No info on Day 1? If that were the case we might as well just randomly quick lynch somebody. Also, you contradict yourself, since activity level is information as well. Apparently the only information you value. I wonder on what basis do you say that the probability of hitting scum is the same for actives and inactives? Did you analyze any games for that? Or are you just guessing here? Nope. Everyone who is posting around now and making wild accusations are doing so out of hunches and "hey..thaaats a suspicious post..he must be scum!!" Pretty much what you are doing. There are no voting records yet and we havent seen any kills yet. So whatever you say, you making highly deductive posts about who must be scum based on what he wrote is just trash. Yes, it may be useful on later days..I never said we should not discuss or go for a quick lynch..but for Day 1 lynch -- no. You seem to be putting words in my mouth are trying to make me look scummy by posting something that I had not done. You are trying too hard to confuse others..sorry. Yes, probability of hitting scum is exactly same if we separate two groups - inactives and actives. If you dont get that, I am not sure how to explain it to you. Peculiar choice. You could have put Xarastier at 3 votes. With only 1 RV (double) post he is the least active of these two. Instead you put reign of terror at 1 vote, who at least got 3 posts in so far: 1 RV post, 1 post defending KevinH and suspecting those on his wagon, and 1 post defending KevinH - again - and justifying his vote. Funny thing though. In Post #61 reign of terror claims to vote Xarastier for not contributing much. If that ain't hypocrisy... Xarastier already has votes on him. How does me putting another vote on him help the conversation on Day1. So you want me to put more votes on Xar so he can be lynched quickly? Seems like you are contradicting yourself there. I though you wanted more conversations..my vote on RoT may prompt him to post more. How does me voting for Xar prompt him to post more when he already has votes on him? Sorry. Your reply was very scummy. FOS: Euclid

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Yes because Day 1 there is no info and if anyone is lynched it should be those who are contributing the least. The probability of lynching a scum in the active group is the same as probability of lynching a scum in the inactive group. My preference is to lynch one of the inactives instead of an active player since the probability of hitting a scum is the same. Scum have more motivation to post the least so that they dont slip up. Last game was an exception and even then when CoD was looking like a scum townies couldnt actually lynch him because of a split vote. Even later on he was not identified as scum based on Day 1 discussions. So pulling last games exaple here is pointless. Anycase, since Martino has returned and contributed positively, I will remove my vote from him. Unvote The next two people who are contributing the least (that I feel) is Xarastier and Reign of Terror. Both havent contributed much. So for the moment I will vote Vote: Reign of Terror

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My point has been different from what you are suggesting. My point has been we have no idea who can be scum on Day 1 as there are no voting records and no investigations. I am discouraging the process of someone saying that "XYZ" is scum because he said this and this. Newbie players and pro-town post a lot and make contradictory claims. We should not lynch on Day 1 based on that. If you are active and you are contributing you should not be voted. People who are inactive should be lynched. I have voted for Martino because he has made 0 posts. I have also said I will change my vote when he comes back and posts. Theres still over a week to go on Day 1..my vote is based on the process I am following. He may be inactive bc of RL issues but that is besides the point. His contribution has been the least due to whatever reason. Until he comes back to change that my vote will stay on him.

My stance on Day 1 action has always been this: lynch the inactives. Day 1: We have no investigation results, we have no voting records and normally we dont have much to argue over also as no one knows nothing. New players and normal townies post a lot and inevitably make scummy statements or contradictory ones throwing the limelight on them. If there is a lynch, they will get lynched and the town loses because (1) they were town and (2) they were active town. If there is a Day 1 lynch the probability of a scum getting lynched is very low (1/4 = 25%). So we should lynch and we should not base our lynch on who said what but on who is doing nothing => the inactives/ low profilers. Also agree with Kazio that "low profilers" should not be judged based on post count also. Random one line posts with no content and no attempt at scum hunt or how to move forward is not helping the town. This is only for Day 1 though. It should not be used from Day 2 forwards as scum may be vocal and making a lot of posts. On Day 1, we should lynch the one who is making the least contribution. Based on the above: Unvote Vote: Martino He has yet to make a post. If he comes by later and posts, I will change my vote to the next guy who is making the least contribution.

7 - 6 = 1 It's not much but to answer your question: yes there really is a difference. Anyways, you dodge my question about voting for an absentee. The only other players that did that were killgor and Rafay but they were the first two voters so that's different. Normally the inactives get lynched first because the are not helping the town scum-hunt. Also the scum tend to lay low because they dont want to say too much or reveal something that will id them as scum later on the game. When voted on the people who are trying to lie low or being inactive tend to wake up to defend themselves. So I dont really see Kevin's vote on Martino as suspicious.

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4 scum with 3 NK abilities against 8 townies? well....this is gonna be fun .... Agreed with kevinH. We need to lynch and hope we get lucky. Vote: Euclid of Alexandria Welcoming the new guy in..

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I just want to say.... I told you so!!! good game.

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