ABigDeer

Also thirdly to add onto that, my reason for voting Montosh was the same as Lyner. Someone could have jumped from Montosh to myself and put me at the front. In hindsight it would of made that person look very suspicious but I wasn't going to get myself killed yet, and with that vote I made as I said above I made statements saying why I would rather lynch Montosh over Lyner if that was the choice I had, so to vote Lyner again would an even further contraction.

@Preston - because I made my decision to vote Montosh over Lyner at that point, it would just be more backpedaling if I changed my vote to Lyner again. I said out of the two I'd rather lynch Montosh because if Lyner was actually town then that would be more extra scummy points than it would be if Montosh was. That and we would of lost someone who actually contributed rather than someone who said nothing all game.

You already had your eyes on me, I don't see what else has changed really. Other than the actions from last night have made it worse for the two that already suspected me. The night actions of last night weren't actually that good of an idea due to the fact that you two already had suspicions and most likely would of voted me on the second day anyway, that and it appears no one died Also some people think to believe that I was reading this thread at like 4am when it opened back up, I never actually saw the posts until right now because I went to bed, so I don't know what's the go with that. I literally just woke up and am posting right now. To start my thoughts, well, what an obvious setup lol. Though I suspected that this could of happened because why would they want me dead yet when the town can do the job for them. It also appears that there must be a few bullet proof people on the team but I assume that most are one shot like Montosh. I want to say that Preston was actually targeted last night because I watched him, Rafay was the one to target him. No idea what he did to him but it just strikes me as a bit suspicious when Rafay said that 'no one targeted Preston' when infact Rafay was the one who actually did. But seeing as there are two that have been shot already it seems like a third hit is unlikely but who knows. So no Robert, I'm not a vig.

Ahh I've been here before but didn't go further up because I didn't see double yellow

Yeah... close but no cigar

https://www.google.com.au/maps/@-36.537782,-63.859864,3a,75y,28.11h,65.98t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sl-F-gbziO--DH9zkckUBIA!2e0 God damn it Betsy why do you do this to me? :'(

La Pampa province?

Argentina

Yeah I would like to see some posts from people who haven't in a while. To me it just seems like they are onlooking this vote battle with no intention of chiming in their thoughts, no one is asking you to further justify your vote seeing as you may have done is a while ago but it would not hurt at all to post.

Which means the scums are safe right now and one of us might be scum, I know it's not me so you look suspicious to me Ever though perhaps that we are both townie and being played right now? Right, probably wouldn't cross your mind.

Please post Montosh ;_;

It's too tough of a call for me to do this right now. Because I'm not 100% sure that Lyner is scum, it's only a suspicion I've picked up from both EM and Lyner from their actions. I'd also like to see EM's reaction on this alas we have almost no time left in the day and he hasn't posted in a bit. This situation is just getting more complicated with three dividing trains where one vote could easily change the balance. I'm going to need to think on this.

Damn, why does everyone vote Lyner after I retracted mine?

That and the scum apparently don't want either of us dead yet.

Which means Montosh may very well be a townie, as I have said before. Which brings to the question of which townie do you want dead? Yes, I am one of the options.

Alright. First of all the reason why I'm voting Montosh is pretty simple, to protect myself. Votes were 3 - 3 - 4, the scum know that I'm a townie so they could easily switch from Montosh to myself (if any of them are currently on him) so I would be the one to be lynched on the first not only that as TBR and Robert have said, I have brought attention to myself and thus making townies a bit suspicious for me. It doesn't take much for a person to end up getting suspicious, take for example EM who voted me in after I posted like 2 or 3 times. Secondly, my suspicion for Lyner still stands, my suspicion for EM still stands. Key word - suspicion - distrust. I do not believe that what they have done is by any means a joke or a mistake and even if either of them aren't scum it is still a bad play on their part because they should of known better than to be the last couple of votes on a no lynch train 12 hours after the game started. However, I'm not going to risk being potentially one vote away from being lynched in order to state my position on Lyner and say he deserves to go, not this early into the game. I have stated before this on occasion but the fact is that Montosh is completely useless to the town right now. Absolutley useless, he has made 0 contribution and is completely inactive and should have been kicked and replaced a very, very long time ago. Now it's actually very possible that he is a townie, I forgot who mentioned it but someone said with an active role such as scum or a power role would want to get stuck into the game and not refuse to participate and I believe that is quite true. But we aren't in a situation right now where everyone wins, someone will die on this day whether you like it or not and there is nothing anyone can really do to change this because it's too late to no lynch. The question is who do you want to die. Want me to die? Fine, but if you are a part of the town who voted me out you may soon find out that you were dead wrong on who you thought was scum, that's how this game plays out sometimes. My vote still stands on Montosh, it's not because he is the most suspicious to me but it seems like the best death of the three to the town (Lyner, Montosh and I). Assuming anyone believes I'm actually a townie. And yeah as a bit of a side note, I really screwed up that last post I made big time. But it doesn't change my views on why I think Montosh doesn't need to stay, seeing as he hasn't been replaced.

Can't believe I thought that, wow, why wouldn't Lyner have 3 votes seeing as I was one of his votes in the first place. I'm way too tired to be typing stuff. I'm going to return tomorrow and try and do this again.

Shit, I thought it was Preston with 3 votes, in fact he has 0. Bad on my part

Oh yeah almost forgot about Kaz.. thought they were going to post by now? There is a couple of people who haven't responded in a few days, perhaps there is nothing else for them to add, but yeah as long as someone is lynched they will let the day slide until the end. I will throw in something: I'm thinking Montosh could perhaps be a townie seeing as no one is moving from him, because if he is scum you would think that one of Montosh's voters could easily switch over to me or Preston and thus making one of us liable to be lynched over Montosh, all it would take is one person and they could even be a townie to do the scum's bidding. However there are still a few days left and this could still easily happen... so I'm going to do something risky and tip the scales. Unvote Vote: Montosh I'd much rather a contributing townie (read: ABigDeer) to stay alive than a completely inactive one. Not only that, if Montosh is actually not a townie then there would be one less of an already assumed small group of scum (which could eventually be replaced, hopefully) so they would need to come out if they don't want him to die and stack another two votes on me or wait out for one on Preston (which I believe has been deemed less suspicious, therefore less chance of a townie switching to him). Regardless, I don't really like the vote that I'm making but there will be 3 scenarios that will play out by the end of today: The lynching of ABigDeer, Montosh or Preston, two of which are contributing to the town and pointing fingers and one which hasn't done anything all game. That and Preston already has his suspicious following, so it's not like if Preston is actually scum he gets off scott free. So I would rather that Montosh gets booted of the three - that is how I see it for now. The sad thing is that if there wasn't such a large no lynch following in the first 12 hours or so of the game, I would of probably voted no lynch. Oh well, at least I justified my vote again, it's the least I could do.

Damn, tense situation.

This situation happens pretty regularly, in fact it is very likely that this will be the case anyway regardless of whether you post a list.

Pretty sure Kevin said he prodded Montosh but he didn't read the message sent

Most arguments are pretty weak on day 1, that's why the whole day is needed to get everyone to talk. The Montosh one is the only one that makes much sense now seeing as he's done nothing all day. EM's just doing what he normally does, however he may soon find out that he is misguided.

As I've said before, any suspicion met I will try and rebuke. Can't do much about the way I post though (I stopped referring to the goblins and alliance because it must of been messing with EM's spidey sense).

Oh just saw only 4 votes are needed anyway. Lol