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I was already suspicious of Kitkat, but this role claim tops it all of. So far it seems like all power roles have targeted all the same people, how convenient. Still don't know what to make of LS, so for me Kitkat is the most obvious suspect, even thought the spotlight has been on LS the entire time. Vote Kitkat

You do realize the position where you are in right now. iSoc investigates you as scum, he gets lynched and his role gets revealed as the role he claimed. Tell me honestly how that looks for you. Do you actually want to argue that if you were in my position, you wouldn't do the exact same thing? What's more suspicious, the person that came up both innocent and guilty, or the person that votes based on the information that is available. You can't honestly tell me something isn't up.

So what do you want me to do? Vote for you again? i don't unvote I'm scum because I'm voting against the cop, I do unvote and it's a suspicious 180 so I must be scum. For someone that was so forgiving towards someone that accused him a full day, you're awfully quick to jump me

I don't see how this changes anything. No he's not a framer, but he could be any of other scum role. We do however know he didn't make the kill either. So that does speak for him

Its possible. However, I will now Role Claim: Role: You are Hagrid, an Order of the Phoenix 2-Shot Roleblocker. LS could not have used his Framer role last night, if he had one, as I used one of my shots to block his Role last night. It doesn't need to be LS who framed himself. It could be any other scum member that framed him so this doesn't clear him.

Ok I just reread the entire D3 and somethings stood out to me, knowing what we know now. First of LS was pretty quickly sold on the fact that iSoc was not lying about being a JOAT, whilst iSoc was accusing LS of being scum. This could be the reverse framing can come into play. There is a possibility that LS is indeed scum and let his scum friend frame him so he would come up as town through Cankles inspection. It would explain why LS was so forgiving towards iSoc, because claiming iSoc lying wouldn't help LS if iSoc was lynched, like he was, and his role revealed him to be the role he was. I'm not sure what to think of this, because of something else, namely because of the fact that Kitkat was very on the fence last day. He didn't really pick a side between LS and iSoc, as if he knew that there were 2 townies fighting. He instead opted to vote for SGB, which makes me believe that SGB is indeed town, like he claimed earlier (although very stealthily).

Unvote LS Well I'm officially confused right now. Unless someone wants to counterclaim, I trust Cankles' role claim. I'm going to go back to see what to make of things knowing what we know now. I think FS is confusing Sister Midnight (SM) and Supreme Leader MK (SLMK)

I think about everyone here has said something. It doesn't look like more new information has surfaced to help or incriminate with anyone, so I'll vote LS like I intended from the start. Vote LS I personally feel that whatever LS turns out, SGB really needs to checked, because that iSoc role block and the no death on N2, those can't be a coincidence. I'm surprised nobody has pressure SGB into role claiming yet, especially since iSoc indeed turned out to be a JOAT.

I'd like to also point out that this is the second time that Cankles made a very last minute vote that didn't end up on the voting sheet. That can't be a coincidence. Also I'd like to wait out for people to come with possible information before voting, but it doesn't look good for LS

I'm going to officially vote for iSoc since the votes are getting very close Vote: iSoc

Just read through about 6 pages worth of discussion. Had a busy week. At this moment it's between either iSoc with the JOAT RC and LS who has just claimed to be a VT. Reading through everything to me the fact that iSoc managed to 'catch' LS on N1 is something that could be somewhat believable. But everything after that seems way to far fetched, almost to good to be true. I mean what are the odds that someone managed to use all his JOAT so far with that success rate, that early in the game? It wouldn't surprise me if the scum team deliberately chose not to kill someone, so iSoc could cause some chaos in the game. Claim that you are a role that can do all, throw out some false leads and voila townies confused. LS can't do anything but defend himself or RC. That's a win for the scum team if he turns out to be a PR and he has to RC. Same goes for SGB. iSoc effectively manage to put himself into the spotlight and dragged LS and SGB with him. Make a choice, it's either you believe LS, SGB or iSoc. If you believe iSoc there is still a toss-up between LS and SGB. Believing either LS or SGB doesn't exclude the fact that the other could still be scum. What it also does is potentially bait out other PR. Maybe someone knew that either LS or SGB was innocent. That person makes that clear, but again it doesn't exclude the other person and scum know who to target. To me it sounds to good to be true what iSoc claims he has manage to pull off. The implications his statements have made seem too fabricated to me. The fact that he acted like he did with the information that he supposedly had, doesn't add up to me either . What would he have done if WP was lynched instead of SLMK? Would he have played this out the same way? I highly doubt it. Also regarding LS' RC. Unless anybody else has that name, which would be very likely if the name was fake, I'm pretty sure LS should be in the clear if nobody else has that name. I don't want to end the day early, so I'm not going to vote officially. Off the records, iSoc to me is scum

I'm sensing the same Also I'd like to clarify that I didn't say that you were scum, merely stating that if there was scum on the SLMK the only person that I could have a clue on was you

Yes I do think this, because if you look at how the wagon developed, you'll see that there were a couple of early votes on SLMK, but that wagon didn't have much traction going on. Cue neighbor discussion and you clearly see a very big split between the 2 camps and the vote tally went as close as 6-6 I think. I distinctly remember myself and Finster flipping in between the votes too, so it was a very close call on who was going to get lynched. Any vote on another side and that vote could have gone the other way around so I'm fairly sure that almost every single person on the SLMK wagon is town. The only person that I could doubt on that list could be Lyner, because he already voted on SLMK before the neighbor affair played out. Seeing how the reasoning behind the votes and the voting patterns, I'm fairly certain that every other person beside Lyner is town, with Lyner being an unknown. But again I want to hear some thoughts of other people before jumping to any major conclusions. This scrap between iSoc and LS seems pretty interesting.

I don't follow that logic

Given the fact on how the 2 wagons at the end of D2 formed, I think it's very likely that everybody on the SLMK wagon is town. I only really could have doubts on Lyner because he was so early on and without as much commitment as the rest of the wagon. Because SLMK was the scum between the 3 neighbors, I think it's very likely that both FS and WP are town. So this leaves us with the following names: iSoc, Rhizo, Kitkat and Kevin (possibly Lyner, but most unlikely). Between these 4/5 there are 3 scum members. I'd like to hear the rest of town first before jumping on any of them.

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Ok now we're getting somewhere. It's very likely that people aren't going to change their votes anymore so there are now 2 wagons on SLMK and on WP. If SLMK does turn out to be town, then there is a 50/50 change of either WP or FS being scum. The people on the respective wagons and their voting behavior is going to be key as well in our approach for this game. One person that wasn't as active as this day comes to a close is Kevin, who as an experienced player, I'd be keen on hearing his opinion on the course that this game has turned. Shame to not hear his voice on the subject matter. @@KevinH

WP makes a good point that SLMK was being pressured, but role claiming was probably enough to get some pressure off his situation. However he opted into throwing both FS and WP under the bus with the neighbor reveal. Did he really need to reveal that information, or was that just a way to buy time and potentially take someone with him? Like I said before i think that the 1-shot Bulletproof is a very weak claim and reading back on CoD's quoted post from SLMK, it does seem sketchy that he first claims to have an important role, while ultimately claiming to be Bulletproof. Unvote Wolfpacks Vote SMLK

SLMK gave us a role, FS gave us a name. Unless WP comes with something more believable, I'm inclined to believe he's scum, seeing his previous comments are a bit sketchy as well. Vote: Wolfpacks

Can't agree more

First things first, role claim 1-shot Bulletproof to me sounds like a weak role claim, because it's an easy role to fake, but it could be plausible so I'm still debating whether or not to believe it. Second of all, amongst those 3 neighbors FS, SLMK and WP, I'm pretty sure there is a mafia member between those 3. If anything I think it's better to lynch FS. His defense sounds to me like he knew that SLMK was a townie so defending him, in combination with the neighbor factor, makes him look like a townie. Because SLMK role claimed after FS statement, he couldn't have known how that would play out. However FS probably did know that his comment would put a spotlight on both himself and SLMK.

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Its not like he nuked anyone of you guys come on we all want to relax and play So where did this sudden defense come from? This came out of nowhere. SLMK was under some suspicion, but he wasn't really under any great pressure. However this comment to me has put the spotlight on him and you.

I highly doubt that even if we played out a full D1 we'd have anything more to work with. My comment was more towards people not bringing anything new to the table except the lynch the inactive. Not even a subtle jab to people. And again I have to agree with Rhizo's statement regarding SLMK. A lot of screaming that he post so much, while the majority of his comment are there for shits and giggles if not less. Probably half of comments consist of him bragging about his post count.

Does anybody else have anything else than voting purely on activity? I don't know how serious people are on lynching CoD purely on activity, but it doesn't seem to get the effect people want it to have