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So what happens if vig is role blocked while trying to make a kill? Will it be considered the usage of their ability and vig becomes VT or goon?

There can only be a tracker or jail keeper. Since Canik claimed tracker and if he is not lying there can't be a jailkeeper. And for you and Canik, just going through the exchanges between you two, a sort of connection is definitely there. Now don't tell me you're trying to distance yourself away from him.

That's an excellent point SeaBee. Also Imran was the one who pressured brewers into spilling his role. Brewers did give him an opportunity for that though so not sure whether Imran intentionally trapped brewers into RC. Brewers was actually baiting someone to ask more bout his role, so I am yet to be convinced it was all an innocent mistake on his part. But definitely good point about Imran, especially him jumping on CoD wagon. Let's hear more from him before I make up my mind. FoS Imran

Yeah I saw that. He posted when I was writing that. So if Canik is lying we can safely assume lego is scum partner of him. Also lego you're not confirmed townie yet, just so I make that clear

The set up never said about possibility of a SK. Unless I am missing something, I think SK is not amongst us. MK said brewers stabbed TW but that was through hammer vote not night actions so probably just a way of saying brewers provided the killing blow. As for Kevin, he has been carefully staying out of heated discussions, only focussing on the wagon. While he has been not unhelpful like Rafay, he is choosing to go the safe route. Not entirely scum like behavior but if Canik is town, Kevin is scum. I will wait to hear from Kevin before I place my vote. Also I am curious to know who Lego targeted. You guys are too active lol. Looks like many posted when I was writing my post.

Yeah as both Canik and lego has RCed. Let's hear from Canik who RCed tracker.

This was expected. Frigid sealed his fate when he goofed up in the PM thread. If that was not enough the initial discussion around his goof up made sure if scum somehow missed the PM thing, they won't miss that frigid is indeed cop. Anyways Canik with all the evidences pointing your way, any thoughts?

Edit NVM you corrected it

You missed the hammer of TW by brewers @MK

Hmm that's what I thought. Then if Canik is presumably jailkeeper then on his prediction of 70/30 town probability for lego has to be only through his posts. You can't count on lego not being scum because he was jailed as his scum partner might have been doing the killing. Also with all the finger pointing against each other I think we are forgetting about Robert. After his vote on Frigid he has not been very active here.

Will jailkeeper know that his target was attacked? Jailkeeper protects and neutralizes his target's ability but he is not a watcher to know who targeted his night target.

Lol not sure. It was not smart call on your part but it felt to me you had good intentions. Maybe Yehom felt the same so that's why he didn't feel the need to go hard on you. Did he react to your RC at all? He might have missed it. Brewers was stupid and uncalled for as it was just to prove SK exists or not. At this point of time people are already making deductions on that based on the night kills, so there was no need to provide "hard" evidence on their existence, especially if you just want to hint to SK by saying hey I am immune to you so you better try other people. But if you're feeling left out, yeah both of your RC were stupid

What's with all this RC this early in D2? It was weird with Lego and to quote Yehom "uncalled for and stupid" in case of brewers. Quick thoughts on both: Lego - Claims reloader without the urgent need for it. It's not the smartest move, but maybe just poor timing rather than being malicious. So I feel he is town, as scum aligned reloader will give unlimited power to scum and IIRC Kevin said he tried to make the game balanced. So unless he lied about his role, I am more inclined to believe Lego is town. Now I had voted him on D1 but not gonna place on a possible town. Unless further information comes to light, he looks town to me. Brewers - Not sure what his exact role is but looks like he RCed immune to SK. Though he said that in reply to Imran calling him out, he could've been smart about it if he really wanted to prove there's a SK and not giveaway his immunity ability. This mostly looks like self preservation to me as SK won't be fool enough to target him and scum won't feel he is important enough to kill, in addition to appear townish to avoid being lynched. I have to read up the role list to know his exact role, but I was thinking even if he is not lying, he can be scum aligned, as SK can target both scum and town. Coupled that with his uncharacteristic posts where he is only defending instead of his usual offensive scum hunting by dissecting posts of others, I feel something's off there. I am just going with my gut feeling there so Vote: brewers Also lol @MK for getting the day wrong. I guess you should elaborate more on your suspicions instead of just FoS-ing people.

I have to agree with Rhizo here. Why would lego RC so early in D2 when there's no pressure on him yet? Maybe he was thinking about the accusations that came his way last day and wants to make sure town doesn't waste their night abilities on him? Even then he should have waited to see how this day pan out before claiming. As for the setup it is a challenge for town. We have to contend with possible 2 scum factions and on top of that there may be a SK who will play for his own. We will also need to see whether those 3 kills had anything more in them than meets the eye. My thing is though, traditionally, an SK never acts on N1. This part interests me. If you dont mind can you shed more light on why SK won't kill anyone on N1? Is it to not draw attention that theres a SK in the midst? Because as far as I know SK doesn't care whether they kill town or scum as long as they can last till the end. [ooc]And btw welcome back to the thick of things again. I hope you can be more active now here[/ooc]

Not sure how you can categorize me as maybe scum but Frigid as probably town. If Frigid is town then he is the one who cleared me, so I have to be town. If you think I am scum because I tried to distance myself from Frigid then you're on the wrong track. My reason is I am not entirely convinced Frigid is town, based on his swing posts which goes from town to scum in matter of minutes. But he is right about one thing that I am town, so not sure whether it was a genuine town investigation or a scum cop trying to associate with town. I dont have any strong convictions yet to go hard on him as he RCed cop and I agree with lego that unless we have irrefutable evidence, we shouldn't hunt him down. Also it seems Rafay is doing some token posting and ignored my vote on him. I am not removing my vote on him. He did same token posting last mafia game and he turned out scum.

Never seen such a bloody night. At least one dead was scum. But the loss of JOAT is surely a setback. Looking at TW's and vgm's character, I think iSoc is right to say that there's two scum faction. Even the no of town kills suggests that in a way. But how are you sure we have a SK? The kill can be from town vigilante as well.

Its getting more and more difficult to read Frigid. If you've already RCed cop and know you might be killed at night, then why unvote Canik for later investigation when you wont be able to share your results? So yes, why shouldn't we lynch Canik? Your posts are so erratic that first you seem to be town and the next post you post something scummy. Now I am starting to believe you latched on to my innocence to associate yourself with town. Also about this Please dont joke or talk about the game outside of this thread. This is against the rules.

Wow that's an obvious clue that the whole town missed about Canik. Perhaps because he was leading the charge against wagon many of us overlooked that he infact backpedaled on the very last moment and goaded iSoc to be the hammer. Thank you TW in bringing this point out. FOS Canik. So let's see what's your reasoning and how much scum points you accumulate based on that

Yeah leaving Rafay to his own means can be dangerous, learnt that the hard way on my last mafia game. Perhaps a vote on him will bring him out from hibernation. Vote: Rafay SBG is bit hard to read for me as I am not much aware of his play style. I did play with him last game and he wasn't super active but not that inactive either. This time only serious post he made on D2 was he suspected there's a scum on the wagon, nothing else.

All these confirmed townie talks makes me feel I am dead next night, if not this night Thanks guys, it was fun Deadline is 18th right? We still have some time so let's make use of it. As of now Unvote. The main suspects seems to be TW and iSoc. I will have to read back all the exchanges on my free time. Till then why SBG and Rafay are staying quiet? We haven't heard much from either of them for quite sometime.

You're giving me hard time like I hammered him for no reason? I made it clear it was a joke in reply to a joke. I am not starting a lynch wagon on him. Let him respond, he has not yet posted anything relevant yet in D2. People had voted him for being perma scum many times, do you think those votes were anything but lulz? So why mine should be any different. You're reading too much into something that is not meant to be anything deep. Or are you sure he is not scum? But how would you know?

Lol it was a joke post in reply to SBG's joke. Time for jokes are over you say? I agree. That's why I voted Seabee to make him serious and also due to good probability that he is actually scum, permascum and all that.

Hey man, you got any more of those "fruits"? Please man So it was you who took out all my stash and now I am out. I wont let this slide. Vote: SBG Because if nothing makes sense, vote for the perma scum.

Yeah Jazzy's attempt to jump on the lynch wagon of the second most voted person to save himself has put him in the firing line. He did backpedal after the backlash he received. I will wait on him to vote and think about whether to upgrade my suspicion on him with a vote.

yeah my bad! Thanks for pointing that out. So someone targeted SBG but he is running around naked, high with drugs. Hmm, I need all the Sherlocks and Poirots to solve that for me lol.