Lachiton

Excellent brewers!! All the credit goes to you for sure and I am sure everyone agrees. *high fives*

Zombies don't talk. SBG's flip fop is interesting. He jumped on me for no reason and now he is back to WP. I think brewers has a point there and we can't let a suspected scum get away just excuse if we are wrong we will have an inactive gunbearer. Vote: SBG

As for this SBG debate, it's difficult to pinpoint since he has not posted much on anything except voting twice for WP, now suddenly in agreement with WP and finds me as suspected scum. I think he was the first one to comment on my post where I subtly put out words from my role PM and said he believed I am town as scum wont receive that message, so on what basis or new information is he making a U-turn on his own assumptions? Also his defense against brewers' very strong push against him has been very weak.

Inactivity doesn't equal to scum but given the circumstances, scum will likely try to post the bare minimum stuff and then jump on a town's assumption if that can steer the suspicion to another townie's direction. We saw the same with TW who found out a convenient excuse to jump on Robert and followed my vote on him. Also TW was leading the scum charge by poking at others, pretending to help town. If you're town, use your common sense and tell me will a scum post the following as his very first post, in a game with no investigative roles and no lynches? You do realize how stupid that play would have been if I was scum. If Medved had sent a different role PM to town members which doesn't mention vote as your weapon (and that shouldn't have been mentioned, Medved confirmed it he forgot to change the text), I would have just given Kevin a clear target to shoot at. I cant quote my role PM as is, as thats against game rules, so I took the one thing which didnt match exactly with the setup but still was included in the PM and subtly put it out so that gunbearer knows not to shoot a fellow town and the odds of hitting actual scum increases. Casting aspersions on me is going to be the perfect scum strategy because with me there along with the gunbearer, there will be 2 confirmed town as opposed to if I become the gunbearer. IIRC TW too tried to doubt my town credentials as well saying the wording is present in mafiascum wiki but when both me and brewers pointed out that something being there in the wiki doesn't mean Medved wont change it, he backtracked immediately. So it was already tried once by a known scum, so it makes sense if it is being tried again by his alive scum partners.

Why am I being suspected all of a sudden? So WP wants to take credit for voting TW when essentially he was forced to share his opinions on the players and voted for TW just because of gut feeling. If you already had TW in mind, why didn't you take his name before. Also the votes were scattered around, so voting for a known scum doesn't automatically earn you townie points as you very well knew just with gut feeling, you're not going to have support from town on the wagon. If you ask me it is a perfect opportunity for a scum to buss his partner knowing fully well that no one else will follow suit and as such votes will remain divided. To me it seems like scum trying to create distance between each other.

That was one hell of a shot there Robert!! TW is a very skilled player so he could have taken the game away from us. Now we need one more shot and then no way we lose, unless I am shot of course. we have 2 scum left

If you're town then you should be trying to find scum even though you dont have the power to lynch. At least make the effort of making Robert's job a bit easier. WP said he is busy IRL but still he didnt try to mount any sort of defense apart from the fact that he is inactive. So my vote stays put on him.

Why am I at the top of your wagon list? I am going by the possibility that if there was a scum on Robert's wagon, then it might likely be you. I know I am town, TW questioned Robert twice before voting, brewers cast the proverbial hammer and have taken considerable amount of time analyzing and asking questions around which is a townie thing to do. So that leaves you unfortunately. Not saying there is certain scum on the wagon but if it were, to me it would be probably you.

Right now I don't get any scum vibe from either TW or brewers. I cant vouch for them of course but with at least 3 scum remaining, I think we should be looking at those who are not getting their hands "dirty" at all. Wolfpacks stand out to me in this regard. He shows on and off and apart from a vote on SBG for inactivity he didn't try to question anybody so far. Even though you don't have power to lynch, you can try to prod around a little more and help the gun bearer make the right choice. Till now zero efforts from him. Vote: Wolfpacks Because I see don't see any reason not to.

Well, on the bright side gun is in the hands of an active townie. Though we have one more town dead, the chances of hitting scum has gone up. I did start the wagon on Robert but the reasons I voted for him are the same with which I had spat with him early on. Anyways I agree with the assessment that we have at least 1 scum on the wagon. Amongst the 4 of us, my top suspect for scum on Robert's wagon is SM. As for suspects outside the wagon, WP is the one to stand out. SBG does seem slightly town to me as he was the first to point out my subtle reveal of my role PM as that of a town.

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The point is to help Velocity in his decision to shoot, which we as a town should have been doing. Doesn't matter whether he chooses our candidate to shoot or not. As for me, I am going to go out on a limb and place my vote whom I am getting more and more suspicious of. Vote : Robert He is 2nd in terms of activity, yet didnt try once to direct town in any direction. He has rarely provided insight on anyone so far, apart from his feeble attempt on Rafay. In my view he is trying to avoid getting into voting and taking a stand, which is more often than not scum tell. If he is shot, best case we get a scum and worst case we handover the gun to a very active townie.

Nice turnaround town. I couldn't contribute anything as I was killed on the first night. I investigated brewers on the first night. For scum inactivity and letting Medved live that long cost them dear.

Its nice to see so much talks going on. I will post in the evening after reading all the posts.

This is a very difficult game for town to win as voting is useless and hence no pressure on scum. That being said, Kevin did a good job though he had help from the stock prices lol.

Possible. Then it is worth noting when and why MK took those names. Fair enough. Also as brewers pointed out, it will be a huge risk for scum to fake that from the wiki if Medved had changed up the role PMs, especially in this game when there's less pressure on scum to do so.

That's a mistake on my part, that was used in the setup on the wiki page. Didn't double check it haha Voting does not count in this game, but i could keep track if you want to show who everyone thinks is suspicious While Medved doesn't outright say it, he does sort of imply it. I think it's likely that Lachiton is town but the wording of a VT message is plainly listed on the popcorn mafia wiki page for anyone to read/recite so that doesn't 100% clear him.. yes but just because its on the wiki doesnt mean thats the PM that the mod would send. That would be one hell of a risk to fabricate that, because if medved sent something different, the entire town would have been able to call lachiton out for BS and he would have been shot right away. would be a terrible risk as his very first post. I think hes town This guy gets it SBG was the other one to get it. I am disappointed that Kevin still has left me in his suspects list. TW too, but he will not have the best interest of town if he is scum.

Never said I have all the answers. The questions you were asking out loud were already explained in the sign up thread and in the OP. Now you're accusing me of being scum just because I made an observation about you. So in short you're behaving as a Rafay lite, minus the racist tag You misunderstood my post. It's not about just asking questions. I am saying that given your activity, I am not finding much useful substance in your posts. Some are filled with witty jokes which everyone appreciates but rest of them are either asking basic game questions or reminding us about Rafay's gameplay, which I dont think anybody needs reminded of. That goes for you as well. As for Rafay, he has my benefit of doubt because as a town he is an easy target for scum. Moreover if Rafay is intact town, scum will definitely want him to get the gun as he might shoot based on previous grudges and most probably end up wrong.

More like I didnt expect the game to restart this quick. Most are posting fluffs with the exception of brewers and TW who are doing some "investigative" work. I would just say these two seem town to me at this point and should not be considered for the 2nd shot. Coming back to Rafay, MK did try to divert attention to him but IIRC he backtracked as soon as he became uncomfortable with the questions. IMO since scum can communicate throughout the day, if he was trying to buss Rafay then he would stuck to his stand. This makes me feel Rafay is town and not because he will label me as racist otherwise lol. Robert is posting a lot but he is constantly asking basic questions about the set up which he could have gathered from the OP. To me it seems like trying to show that he is active without directing traffic in any way, a perfect scum strategy. So he is on my suspects list. As for me if you haven't figured out I am town then either you're not paying attention or you're scum.

Deadline was on 4th so what was the rush to shoot. Anyways it was going to be a random shoot regardless so in the end it doesn't matter. Hopefully MK does end up scum as he seems the scummier amongst us but I have been wrong before because of his "I will do everything possible to look scummy" play style. It was truly accidental

I aint writing any essay My posts in the first page is indicative enough that I am town

You said it yourself that scum, knowing that there will be hesitancy in targeting inactive as the said inactive will wield the gun, can just hide in the shadows and let town kill of all active players one by one, basically losing the game. We cant afford anyone to be inactive in this game. Even though scum cant kill, it is very easy for them to hide as lynch wagons cant be formed and analyzed.

Agree with what brewers has said about MK. I was about to say the same thing. He says if he was scum he wud have chosen Rafay as the first gunbearer and Rafay wud have targeted TW next giving him the gun. So by that logic he already thinks both Rafay and TW are scum. So him voting for Rafay doesn't make any sense. MK does have a habit of playing erratically which he guises under the belief that if he looks less townish scum wont target him. But theres no excuse playing like that in this game as scum cant kill you. I am waiting for MK to post his rebuttal and explain his post which was full of contradictions. FoS MK Sorry for the mistake with this particular sentence "So by that logic he already thinks both Rafay and TW are scum" It wud be both Rafay and TW are town according to MK's last post

I guess we can vote but the person wont be lynched. My role PM says my weapon is my vote, not sure what's going on with that.

Now Kevin cant go for his favorite no lynch d1 strategy lol.