KevinH

Quote For Truth. When I advocate no-lynch, it's because I don't want to kill off a townie. At this point, no-lynch just means another dead townie during the night. However, with all this said, I think there is a possibility that EM did indeed play Falzis for the fool. Maybe Falzis took the lead and EM took advantage of the opportunity. I can imagine very sly play by EM to see that a townie is making the wrong moves and reinforce those moves. Maybe, maybe, maybe... But if we don't lynch Falzis, then whom?

What say ye now?

Here are some day 3 quotes. I agree with the scum. This is a twist. Scum saying bad things about Falzis and Sir Jesus gives them townie points. The scum knew definitely that CD was townie. His partners will night-kill CD. Scum saying bad things about Nerau-Narsis gives him townie points. The scum lies. The scum previously said he got lucky. The scum indeed saw a target on CD's back. Sir Jesus gets townie points by having a vote from scum. Sir Jesus gets more townie points. Endorsement from a scum is not a townie indicator. Yup. CD had a really good chance at being a townie. The scum begins to distance himself when Falzis collects a few votes. Kaziocore now has an endorsement from the scum. The scum tried to sit back and play it safe. It didn't work. Nerau-Narsis gets an endorsement from the scum. The scum picks me over Falzis. The scum doesn't like how I'm playing. The scum says Falzis is contributing and Sir Jesus is not. The scum says he is a townie and that I should be lynched over Falzis. I think the lynch of Electric Mango came as a surprise and he was trying to sway the vote towards me. It would have been a better attempt to "save his own skin" by putting his vote on Falzis. Why didn't he? SFOS: Falzis

Electric Mango, MAFIA GOON, has been lynched. Now that we know he was scum, let's look at some selected posts from the first two days. Falzis has a vote of confidence from the scum. The scum says the best course of action is to lynch on day 1. The scum doesn't agree with me. The scum doesn't want to play follow the cop. The scum gives me a complement. Thanks. The scum believes it was luck that the cop got killed. He would know. I FOS'd the scum. Oh no ... Falzis is defended by the scum. The scum insists that he acted pro-town. Ironic. The scum also says Falzis is doing a good job for the town. The scum defends Falzis again. The scum didn't like it when I was suspicious of him. The scum puts pressure on Nerau-Narsis. The scum wants to lynch a townie. The scum wants to lynch Sojourner rather than Falzis. I think all these posts speak for themselves. Electric Mango didn't expect to be lynched and consistently defended Falzis. FOS: Falzis VOTE COUNT Falzis (1): Kaziocore No Lynch (1): Falzis Not Voting (7): Theophilos, Nerau, Sir Jesus, Martino, KevinH, Aquinas With 8 Alive, 5 is needed to lynch. Narsis is V/LA from 5 days from the 27th.

I knew it! Always go with your first thought. (just kidding) It's still as good a theory as any. Those that voted for Electric Mango are more prone to be townie; those that didn't are more prone to be scum.

Back at ya ... Unvote: Falzis Vote: Electric Mango This is more than an OMGUS. Electric Mango has the exact same voting pattern as Falzis. The vote still conforms to my theory that they are both scum. It gives a better chance for a townie (me) to survive.

Let's quote what I really said: Twisting my words? Is that a scum-tell?

From Day 1: Hypothesis: Electric Mango and Falzis are scum. The 3rd scum that was needed to lynch the townie on day 1 was an inactive player at the time. It's as good a theory as any.

I believe your defense could be true. Just as I said that I play the same whether I'm townie or scum, you could be a scum making all the right townie arguments. If you don't want me to say you're the best candidate, I phrase it this way: everyone else is a worse candidate.

You leave out Nerau-Narsis and CanucksDynasty. If I had done something like that, you'd be accusing me of attempting to mislead.

Do you give a free pass to the whole set that didn't vote for Sojourner? I didn't think so. It's a matter of probabilities. It is very likely that that one or more scum voted to lynch a townie. That's where we should seek to lynch today. Nevertheless, it is still quite possible that not all scum voted to lynch the townie. If there's a contradiction here, I don't see it.

Here's the ironic part, though: I'd play this way even if I were scum. Trust me, this time I'm townie!

Why I Can't Be Scum Based On My Actions, Non-Actions, and Voting Patterns My actions have always had the benefit of the town in mind. When others want to risk lynching a possible cop, I want to keep him alive. When others want to beat the odds and think they'll get lucky, I want to play the odds and maximize our chances. My non-actions also benefit the town. I don't make wild accusatations based on hunches, bad logic, or supposed scum-tells. I point out facts and help others draw the same conclusions as I have made. My voting patterns are always pro-town. I vote to lynch when it is in the best interest of the town and I vote for the best choice given the information available at the time. Therefore, I can't be scum. I did answer the contradiction of saying the defense was solid yet maintaining a vote. The points made could possibly indicate all actions were taken by a well-intentioned townie. However, given all available information I believe the best course of action is to vote to lynch a player that twice voted to lynch a now-known townie.

Why is this suspicious? You are starting with "amongst those who voted for sojourner" as if only that set contains scum. I put forth that there is also scum amongst those that didn't vote for Sojourner. It's a moot point regardless, since I won't turn out to be scum.

Thank you for the support. You must have had a fine Minnesota education!

Are you reading all the posts? I'll quote it again for you:

Falzis responds to Sojourner on Day 2: What say ye now?

I thought it was interesting that the three of us were active at the same time. Possibly. I've given rationale for my votes. It might be wrong but it's the best we have at the time. My votes that lynch townies should be held to the same scrutiny as everyone elses'. At this point, I have zero wrong votes. What's your score?

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Anyone's suspicion on me is just like mine on anyone. There's not much upon which to go. Want a stronger defense? Please, please, please don't vote for me. I'm a townie and you just have to believe me. Please, please, please don't vote for me. I'm the one trying to find the scum while everyone else is doing nothing. Please, please, please don't vote for me. I'm a townie! Please, please, please don't vote for me. I didn't vote to lynch a townie while others have. Please, please, please don't vote for me. If you lynch me, you'll be sorry. Please, please, please don't vote for me. I am trying to win the game for the town and those that oppose me must be scum. Please, please, please don't vote for me!Is that better? I find it interesting that the two players that voted for Sojourner the townie on day 1 are the ones saying they expect more from me. One more time, here's my analysis: Day 1 Sojourner (2): Falzis, Electric Mango Day 2 Sojourner (6): Falzis, Narsis, Electric Mango, Kaziocore, Aquinas, Sir Jesus Sojourner was townie. Draw your own conclusions.

I am just someone. You must want the town to lose.

Any person could respond that way; hence my thoughts that it is a bit random. How do we lynch intelligently? My answer is that we focus on those that have lynched known townies; not those about which we have a bad feeling because they state the obvious fact that we have little data upon which to act.

And what will you say about your feelings when I am proven to be townie?

It's difficult to know anything. It's a bit random but we just need to lynch someone and see where it goes from there.

I also want to emphasize that non-voting inactive townies could really hurt us. Suppose a power-role player comes out and makes a convincing case that they know exactly who is who. The scum goes "uh-oh" and gang up and lynch before the townies can respond (been there; done that).