An evil overlord, an out of the way town, a strange death, and a suppressed power...all the makings of a good story. Unfortunately, this isn't that town, nor are you those lucky few to go on the world saving adventure. But that doesn't mean that a story of some note isn't about to take place...

 

 

Hey uh...sorry i'm a little late getting this all out. I was really really really busy yesterday. I'll get everything together and throw it all out like now.

 

 

The Players

 

1. Theophilos, rich merchant, inheritor of a vast information ring, and Deputy, was imprisoned and sentenced to beheading Day 2.

2. KevinH, wealthy merchant, head of a vast information ring, and Cop, was found cut and poisoned during Night 1.

3. AKCPluto, wealthy merchant, evil and cunning murderer, and member of the "Mafia", was stabbed to death Day 1.

4. Kaziocore, wealthy merchant and Townie, lynched Day 3.

5. CanucksDynasty, wealthy merchant and member of the "Mafia", survives to end-game.

6. Electric Mango, wealthy merchant and Townie, killed by CD in end-game.

7. Martino, wealthy merchant and Townie, was stabbed to death Night 2.

Edited June 24, 201016 yr by Narsis

However, if Martino ends up to be correct, I'll bow down in homage to his superior Mafia skills.

 

Right now I'm disappointed he is not using it properly...

 

Well it could also be said that your vote on AKCPluto can be a distancing vote too.

And perhaps even CD.

 

And your reason that CD is townie just because he put on the hammer vote is WIFOM.

 

When I read this post I was convinced AKCPluto would come up scum. AKCPluto came up scum, so I think I was right on with my hypothesis that Kaziocore's early vote was a distancing vote.

 

 

vote Kaziocore

 

Nice. You're convinced that I'm scum because I'm defending myself based on your previous post.

Right now I'm disappointed he is not using it properly...

 

 

 

Nice. You're convinced that I'm scum because I'm defending myself based on your previous post.

I'm right though, aren't I?

 

Anyway @EM if it is a no brainer, why did you not vote?

I didn't vote right away because I was afraid that the town would misinterpret my actions and that I would be viewed as scum only voting for Theo to save myself. That being said, I will now make it official and leave the rest up to my fellow townies.

 

Vote: Theo

That's 2 votes for Theo.

 

We have until the end of the week.

So let's not make a hasty lynch and allow for more discussion please.

That's 2 votes for Theo.

 

We have until the end of the week.

So let's not make a hasty lynch and allow for more discussion please.

If Theo were to come up as town, would you be willing to lynch Kazio next?

If Theo were to come up as town, would you be willing to lynch Kazio next?

 

He would be next on my list after Theo.

Similar question to EM. Would you agree to being lynched tomorrow if Theo comes up town?

I would not volunteer under any circumstances to be lynched, however, situations being as they are, I am high on the suspect list andI would not fault any townie for voting for me next.

 

If Theo is lynched and found to be a townie, I am not sure who I would vote next, to be honest. Kazio is suspected by Martino but I would have to go back and read old posts to see if I agreed or found someone else more suspicious. We'll know a lot more after this next lynch and possible night scene and I'll wait until we have more information.

I would not volunteer under any circumstances to be lynched, however, situations being as they are, I am high on the suspect list andI would not fault any townie for voting for me next.

 

If Theo is lynched and found to be a townie, I am not sure who I would vote next, to be honest. Kazio is suspected by Martino but I would have to go back and read old posts to see if I agreed or found someone else more suspicious. We'll know a lot more after this next lynch and possible night scene and I'll wait until we have more information.

 

If Theo turns up townie...you (EM) and Kazio are my next primary suspects.

I don't think Martino is mafia (pretty sure he's townie) due to the fact that he placed the 2nd vote and pretty much got the bandwagon rolling on AKC.

 

So it'll be between the 2 of you that I would focus my attention on.

I have you rated higher as a townie than Kazio.

The strike against you would be that you didn't vote for AKC.

The strike against Kazio would be what Martino suggested...the distancing vote on AKC.

But like you said...it really depends on what happens next.

I would not volunteer under any circumstances to be lynched, however, situations being as they are, I am high on the suspect list andI would not fault any townie for voting for me next.

 

If Theo is lynched and found to be a townie, I am not sure who I would vote next, to be honest. Kazio is suspected by Martino but I would have to go back and read old posts to see if I agreed or found someone else more suspicious. We'll know a lot more after this next lynch and possible night scene and I'll wait until we have more information.

I don't think we'll know all that much more tomorrow. Assuming the game is not over, we'll know that Theo was a townie. But we won't really have any new information about the other players. So I would prefer to determine today who will be our lynch target for tomorrow. Otherwise we would leave it up to the mafia to influence tomorrow's lynch by strategically taking out one of the players.

 

I would be very interested to hear your thoughts on the remaining players. I've just concluded a reread and will post mine after you do.

The strike against Kazio would be what Martino suggested...the distancing vote on AKC.

 

So when Martino suggests that you're scum, it's okay for you to be voted :|

Remember in MSGSHCI, he was scum...

 

You'll make a big mistake if you follow Martino.

 

Martino could be the scum right now and his plan is to lynch me because he knows that after that Theo would be next...

But since it looks like Theo would be lynched right now, he'll win easily because he'll let you live and since I'm not Martino,

you'll believe him instead and follow him.

And who's the more experienced player that can pinpoint the cop from the rest of the townies?

Yes, it's Martino so...

 

Vote: Martino

 

And he was always asking stuff about KevinH on Day 1 even though they're really not needed like.

"What makes you think the town has to act faster in a 5vs2 set up when compared to, for example, a 7 vs 3 set up?"

I don't know the reason for this...

 

Until KevinH kind of gave a clue that he's cop in this quote...

In other games with more players, an argument can be made to let the cop do his work and improve the odds when lynching. With only two mislynches to give, we can't afford the wait.

 

I think it's better to lynch and hope to get lucky rather than let the scum pick off a few townies.

 

After that his plan is to lynch his buddy and blame another that's easier to lynch (like me)...

Just thought i'd remind everyone that Theo is going out of town for a bit...and at the moment i dont have a replacement lined up.

So when Martino suggests that you're scum, it's okay for you to be voted :|

Remember in MSGSHCI, he was scum...

 

You'll make a big mistake if you follow Martino.

 

Martino could be the scum right now and his plan is to lynch me because he knows that after that Theo would be next...

But since it looks like Theo would be lynched right now, he'll win easily because he'll let you live and since I'm not Martino,

you'll believe him instead and follow him.

If I was scum, why would I even bother trying to get you lynched? I could have easily joined the others and blame Theo+EM. Those two lynches would have been enough to win the game. I suspect you know that and are frustrated that I'm not letting you play it that way.

And who's the more experienced player that can pinpoint the cop from the rest of the townies?

I'd say that CD, EM and myself all qualify.

Yes, it's Martino so...

 

Vote: Martino

This looks an awful lot like the OMGUS vote AKCPluto gave me yesterday and we know how that turned out. Also, I'd say I'm probably the least likely one to be scum at this point.

 

And he was always asking stuff about KevinH on Day 1 even though they're really not needed like.

"What makes you think the town has to act faster in a 5vs2 set up when compared to, for example, a 7 vs 3 set up?"

I don't know the reason for this...

I normally prefer to wait with discussing my strategies until after the game is over. But the reason I was questioning KevinH was not because I suspected he was the cop, or scum for that matter. In fact, I was reasonably certain that he was not scum. I was trying to make KevinH seem like an easy to explain vote/lynch target and bait a mafia member into voting him. While I didn't manage to get anyone to vote, the POS proved to be enough.

Until KevinH kind of gave a clue that he's cop in this quote...

"In other games with more players, an argument can be made to let the cop do his work and improve the odds when lynching. With only two mislynches to give, we can't afford the wait.

 

I think it's better to lynch and hope to get lucky rather than let the scum pick off a few townies."

I have to say that I really don't see how he gave himself away in that post. But I suppose it was enough for you.

 

After that his plan is to lynch his buddy and blame another that's easier to lynch (like me)...

Having successfully identified and night killed the cop and having pretty much cleared my name by bussing my scum buddy on D1, exactly what would I gain by attacking you with two other people lined up to be lynched?

 

@Narsis: I think we may be able to finish this game without him. But we'll see.

@Kaziocore: If you do end up to be a townie, I'll shoot you a PM after the game ends to discuss a few things. But I really doubt it.

 

OOC: The no quotes in quotes thing is really annoying in mafia. Is there any way to turn it off?

I don't think we'll know all that much more tomorrow. Assuming the game is not over, we'll know that Theo was a townie. But we won't really have any new information about the other players. So I would prefer to determine today who will be our lynch target for tomorrow. Otherwise we would leave it up to the mafia to influence tomorrow's lynch by strategically taking out one of the players.

 

I would be very interested to hear your thoughts on the remaining players. I've just concluded a reread and will post mine after you do.

 

I respectfully disagree. If Theo is townie then one can assume that we will have 2 less townies to start the next day, Theo and whoever gets night killed. This will help shorten down our list of suspects and make it easier to pinpoint scum. I also do not think it wise for us to put all of our cards on the table too soon. For instance, if the entire town agrees that CD is a townie, he will most likely be the mafia night target. If I make it through the day, I have no fear of making it through the night because scum know I will most likely be lynched tomorrow anyway. I also need to look at vote patterns etc for an extra day before I feel confident enough to make my thoughts known.

 

As far as KevinH being picked as the 1st lynch target, I attribute that to scum going after a vet and not scum going after a cop tell.

I respectfully disagree. If Theo is townie then one can assume that we will have 2 less townies to start the next day, Theo and whoever gets night killed. This will help shorten down our list of suspects and make it easier to pinpoint scum.

It will hardly shorten our list of suspects. Obviously Theo would not longer be on there, but the person to get NK'ed would most likely be someone we all pretty much agree is a townie anyway. More precisely, I think it's reasonably certain CD is a townie and I believe the same holds for me. So the nightkill will be one of us. Since neither of us would be a realistic target for tomorrow's lynch, the NK won't make our choice any easier.

 

I also do not think it wise for us to put all of our cards on the table too soon. For instance, if the entire town agrees that CD is a townie, he will most likely be the mafia night target.

Those cards are already on the table. We have no cop left, so all the information us townies will get is what is available in this topic. I think it's fair to assume that the mafia is able to see who the players are that are not under any real suspicion. So they would pick one of those anyway. I really fail to see how it is in the town's best interest to keep quiet until the night and then have one of us take his thoughts with him to the grave.

 

If I make it through the day, I have no fear of making it through the night because scum know I will most likely be lynched tomorrow anyway. I also need to look at vote patterns etc for an extra day before I feel confident enough to make my thoughts known.

And that is exactly where my objections lie. Yes, you will still be alive tomorrow. But either me or CD will not be alive. I'd much rather make the decision today together with CD then tomorrow alone. Also, we still have the input of today's lynchee. If he is scum, the game ends. So we can take his advice regarding tomorrow's lynch. What it comes down to is that I'd much rather make the decision today with 4 townies against 1 scum, then tomorrow with 2 townies against one scum.

It will hardly shorten our list of suspects. Obviously Theo would not longer be on there, but the person to get NK'ed would most likely be someone we all pretty much agree is a townie anyway. More precisely, I think it's reasonably certain CD is a townie and I believe the same holds for me. So the nightkill will be one of us. Since neither of us would be a realistic target for tomorrow's lynch, the NK won't make our choice any easier.

 

 

Those cards are already on the table. We have no cop left, so all the information us townies will get is what is available in this topic. I think it's fair to assume that the mafia is able to see who the players are that are not under any real suspicion. So they would pick one of those anyway. I really fail to see how it is in the town's best interest to keep quiet until the night and then have one of us take his thoughts with him to the grave.

 

 

And that is exactly where my objections lie. Yes, you will still be alive tomorrow. But either me or CD will not be alive. I'd much rather make the decision today together with CD then tomorrow alone. Also, we still have the input of today's lynchee. If he is scum, the game ends. So we can take his advice regarding tomorrow's lynch. What it comes down to is that I'd much rather make the decision today with 4 townies against 1 scum, then tomorrow with 2 townies against one scum.

Excuse my previous post, I was reading through everything on my ITouch and fat fingered

 

 

Ok, so Martino's point concerning 4-1 > 2-1 made sense to me so here goes.

 

Theo

The Good - Questioned AKC about his POS on Kevin,

The Bad - Didn't vote for the scum

 

Kaziocore

The Good - Voted for scum, Has not done anything "scummy " like

The Bad - Aforementioned scum vote could be distancing,

 

Canucks Dynasty

The Good - Dropped the hammer on AKC

The Bad - May have thrown his partner under the bus to make himself look good

 

Electric Mango

The Good - My avatar says it all and I called out AKC for his OMGUS vote

The Bad - I didn't vote for scum the 1st day

 

Martino

The Good - Good vote on Kaziocore, Has put up many solid posts

The Bad - If he's scum we're all screwed

 

I'm hugely convinced in the innocence of Martino and myself of course. After reading through the posts I'm more convinced of Theo's innocence than before. My vote on him was based off of it's not me it's him, but his questioning AKC's finger pointing gives him more towine points. I'm starting to buy into Martino's theory of distancing of Kaziocre on AKC. If Kazio turns up townie I would bet that CD is the hammer dropping scum.

Unvote: Theo

Vote: Kaziocore

So if I'm lynched today (which will say that I'm townie and hopefully not)

Most probably CD will be lynched so we will have this...

 

1. Theophilos

6. Electric Mango

7. Martino

 

Now if theo isn't replaced by then, what if either EM and Martino is scum?

EM or Martino (whichever is scum) would say I'm sorry I made a mistake or something like that and say that theo must be the scum.

So he'll be lynched and that's game over.

That's what I'm afraid of...

 

Though I'm not sure if CD isn'tscum...

 

So what if Theo will be lynched instead so at least two active townies will be left?

Because I'm sure the scum would leave out the inactive townie...

 

@Kaziocore: If you do end up to be a townie, I'll shoot you a PM after the game ends to discuss a few things. But I really doubt it.

 

I'll be expecting that...

What I'm only sure is theo would be spared if everybody else is lynched.

This looks an awful lot like the OMGUS vote AKCPluto gave me yesterday and we know how that turned out. Also, I'd say I'm probably the least likely one to be scum at this point.

 

No they're not...

That's not the only reason, I also put my suspicions on your plan if your scum in the previous post.

You're quoting only a portion of my two posts that will make it look like one.

Kaziocore

The Good - Voted for scum, Has not done anything "scummy " like

The Bad - Aforementioned scum vote could be distancing,

 

Electric Mango

The Good - My avatar says it all and I called out AKC for his OMGUS vote

The Bad - I didn't vote for scum the 1st day

 

Assuming I'm wrong that Martino is scum and I'm the other guys, why would I choose Kaziocore instead of you?

1) I don't know what's The Good in calling out AKC for his OMGUS vote. In the first place, he's already doomed.

People will likely lynch him than Martino and he hasn't contributed that much versus Martino.

 

2) I'll say it's better to vote for the guy that didn't vote for the scum than the other one who voted for scum and didn't do anything "scummy" like

 

3) "My avatar says it all" is a filler :|

But let's not lynch quickly.

We still have two days left for discussion.

Please use it wisely...

CD should be using his scum hunting skills right now with only 5 days to hunt scum...

CD should be using his scum hunting skills right now with only 5 days to hunt scum...

 

A case can be made against anybody if you throw enough facts and figures.

I believe the phrase I'm looking for is Occam's Razor... the simplest explanation is usually the correct one.

In a game of 7...I find it unlikely for a mafia member to vote for their own on D1.

 

Thus I believe it to be either EM or Theo to be the remaining scum.

I choose Theo mainly cuz I think EM stands a better chance of being townie than Theo.

 

If I'm wrong then I'll have a choice (if I'm still alive) to make.