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[ccabal86]

sigh...i kinda hoped i wouldn't need to do this:

I'm a vig.

Ok, so let's assume you are a vigilante. Why would you whack KevinH, which you most certainly did.

It's good to know you can dish out some good damage then Curu

[AKCPLUTO]

I have a really weird theory. I know it sounds dumb, but OK. Is it coincidence that Narsis and Kazio were both in the entrance up until day 3 and that Kazio has been in the entrance during every night period. Now, either Nerau or Kazio attacked Narsis on night 1. What were your night actions then, gentlemen? Then, on night 2, either Kevin or Narsis attacked Kazio. Kevin, what was your night action then? Kazio allegedly got electrocuted by toggling the main lobby light ... but could it be imaginable that Narsis and Kazio have attacked each other to muddy up the waters? I'm not sure about the electrocution story.

Also, in putting all the data of my guesses concerning who has attacked who into a little spreadsheet, I can assure everyone that Theo is not scum. Because I did not attack Curu, Theo did attack Curu on N1. But then Curu got healed and Theo's actions since then have been either searching, watching the bedroom, or healing Curu.

Thus, I think that Kazio MIGHT be scum. Narsis for sure. I'm committed to lynching Narsis at this point. However, after Narsis, Kazio is my next likely candidate.

(After this game, would someone be kind enough to look at the spreadsheet in question and coach me a bit as to how accurate my playstyle is?)

[ccabal86]

I say we focus on the task at hand, which for now is lynching Narsis. We can evaluate the night's actions, and decide on our next action then.

[Narsis]

Ok, so let's assume you are a vigilante. Why would you whack KevinH, which you most certainly did.

It's good to know you can dish out some good damage then Curu

1) why is it good to know Curu can dish out damage? he could be mafia lying about where he got the knife.

2) why whack Kevin? well it has to do with the combination of items that us vigs started with and found during the night that makes KevinH finding a medkit night 1 highly suspect.

@AKC: if Theo attacked Curu night 1...well why would he do that if he wasn't mafia? and what makes you think that a mafia couldn't have attacked night 1 and then just searched the rest of the game?

[Narsis]

rereading AKC's posts these last few pages just makes me think that he is reaching for any reason to draw suspicion away from him. i for one honestly think we caught scum in him.

[AKCPLUTO]

Right on, cc. I'm just trying to show that I'm trying to put some thought into my actions and that I'm trying to improve as a Mafia player.

Would it be possible to hurry up and end the day a couple real-time-days early if we could then if everyone's agreed on putting Narsis on the gallows here?

[Narsis]

Right on, cc. I'm just trying to show that I'm trying to put some thought into my actions and that I'm trying to improve as a Mafia player.

Would it be possible to hurry up and end the day a couple real-time-days early if we could then if everyone's agreed on putting Narsis on the gallows here?

wanting to hurry up and kill an outed vig eh mafia?

[AKCPLUTO]

I can confirm that Curu found the knife through the button because as a real vig, I happen to be responsible for placing the trap with the knife in the lobby.

Hmm...well, in a HP situation like this, I find it strange that a scum would take a swing at somebody and then just lie low for two days like this. What good would that swing do?

(Would I be allowed to role-claim for Theo? Because I know what he is. And he's definitely not mafia.)

[AKCPLUTO]

Narsis sure found a way to back himself out of a corner.

In any case, what do I have to do to prove that I am not mafia? It's Narsis vs. me right now.

[Electric Mango]

Nice attempt Narsis but there's no way talking your way out of this one. If you are a townie then you'll do us a favor in staying in the lobby.

[ccabal86]

So if KevinH is mafia, then why did he heal Curu, who is obviously not?

[AKCPLUTO]

For the record, I'm just trying to stimulate discussion and getting some facts exchanged.

It's official for my chart then...Kevin is town. Forget about my suspicions concerning Curu.

Now, why would Kazio toggle the light for Main on N2?

As for Narsis' idea that mafia would just attack once and kick back, isn't that exactly what he has done? In my estimation, he has either searched his room or watched somebody on N's 1 and 2, and then, he struck in on Kevin in N3. And I'm not giving up on the theory that Kazio and Narsis have attacked each other just yet. I think that my theory can't be as dumbo as their move if they indeed have done so.

[19thSpecOps]

Nice discussion. Well hope y'all don't mind but im searching choas body...I do know this: that a mage attacked choas before we lunched him the other night.

[Kaziocore]

For the record, I'm just trying to stimulate discussion and getting some facts exchanged.

It's official for my chart then...Kevin is town. Forget about my suspicions concerning Curu.

Now, why would Kazio toggle the light for Main on N2?

As for Narsis' idea that mafia would just attack once and kick back, isn't that exactly what he has done? In my estimation, he has either searched his room or watched somebody on N's 1 and 2, and then, he struck in on Kevin in N3. And I'm not giving up on the theory that Kazio and Narsis have attacked each other just yet. I think that my theory can't be as dumbo as their move if they indeed have done so.

Well your theory seems plausible if not for the lights in the lobby getting turned on.
Switching on the lights is equal to one action.

[Kaziocore]

I can confirm that Curu found the knife through the button because as a real vig, I happen to be responsible for placing the trap with the knife in the lobby.

Hmm...well, in a HP situation like this, I find it strange that a scum would take a swing at somebody and then just lie low for two days like this. What good would that swing do?

(Would I be allowed to role-claim for Theo? Because I know what he is. And he's definitely not mafia.)

It's strange that on Night 1
Curufinwe was attacked by a guy wearing a gorilla suit (check page 2)

And only you and theo can be the suspect.
So what's your explanation for this?

You haven't actually answered Narsis's question (just like when you did not immediately answered ccabal86's question on page 6)

Right on, cc. I'm just trying to show that I'm trying to put some thought into my actions and that I'm trying to improve as a Mafia player.

Would it be possible to hurry up and end the day a couple real-time-days early if we could then if everyone's agreed on putting Narsis on the gallows here?

It's as if you ignored what Narsis said. I think that's awfully suspicious.

[Narsis]

I can confirm that Curu found the knife through the button because as a real vig, I happen to be responsible for placing the trap with the knife in the lobby.

Hmm...well, in a HP situation like this, I find it strange that a scum would take a swing at somebody and then just lie low for two days like this. What good would that swing do?

(Would I be allowed to role-claim for Theo? Because I know what he is. And he's definitely not mafia.)

1) in order to avoid suspicion. and that one swing helps.
2) how can you know what role Theo has? unless you are mafia and he's your partner...

So if KevinH is mafia, then why did he heal Curu, who is obviously not?

to avoid suspicion and look town. think about it: you are giving him a free pass as a townie are you not? so if he is scum then his ploy has indeed worked.

i will admit however taht we hadn't planned on killing Kevin last night/this night. however we figured attacking him as well as seeing his and others reaction to it would help. the chandelier was an unforseen event.

For the record, I'm just trying to stimulate discussion and getting some facts exchanged.

It's official for my chart then...Kevin is town. Forget about my suspicions concerning Curu.

Now, why would Kazio toggle the light for Main on N2?

As for Narsis' idea that mafia would just attack once and kick back, isn't that exactly what he has done? In my estimation, he has either searched his room or watched somebody on N's 1 and 2, and then, he struck in on Kevin in N3. And I'm not giving up on the theory that Kazio and Narsis have attacked each other just yet. I think that my theory can't be as dumbo as their move if they indeed have done so.

well obviously your theory wouldn't be stupid if it's true...except it's not true.

[AKCPLUTO]

I'll work in reverse order.

Kazio, I didn't ignore Narsis. Narsis posted at 5:29, I at 5:30, he at 5:31, and then I at 5:33-34.

Your quote is from the post at 5:30. I did not see the 5:29 post at that time.

And only you and theo can be the suspect.
So what's your explanation for this?

My explanation is that Theo is the gorilla and the other vig.

Well your theory seems plausible if not for the lights in the lobby getting turned on.
Switching on the lights is equal to one action.

I'm saying that you guys attacked each other on different nights, i.e., Kazio attacked Narsis on N1 then Narsis attacked Kazio on N2.

So, either you are both scum or you retaliated on each other and Narsis is definitely scum.

Maged attacked chaos on n2? thanks.

Either way, Narsis is public enemy number one. And I've got my eye peeled on Kazio.

[AKCPLUTO]

EM, what do you think...who's lying or not...

[Electric Mango]

AKCPLUTO claims that he and Theo are the vig's. Theo, if you would verify this we would could wrap this game up very quickly.

Narsis, if you are the vig, then why isn't your vig partner stepping up for you?

I believe that AKC and Theo are the two vigs and what is interesting is that N1 both of them were in the room w/ Curufinwe when he claims he was clubbed with a bat by someone wearing a gorilla mask. If you believe that AKC and Theo are vigs then Curu has to be the 3rd scum who must have injured himself N1.

Really, Narsis? Is that the best you could come up with? I don't believe you at all...because...

I'm a vig too. And you are NOT my vig partner.

(Would I be allowed to role-claim for Theo? Because I know what he is. And he's definitely not mafia.)

[AKCPLUTO]

Curu said something about keeping the knife to his chest earlier...