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AKCPLUTO claims that he and Theo are the vig's. Theo, if you would verify this we would could wrap this game up very quickly.

Narsis, if you are the vig, then why isn't your vig partner stepping up for you?

I believe that AKC and Theo are the two vigs and what is interesting is that N1 both of them were in the room w/ Curufinwe when he claims he was clubbed with a bat by someone wearing a gorilla mask. If you believe that AKC and Theo are vigs then Curu has to be the 3rd scum who must have injured himself N1.


because i am not stupid enough to out my partner to the mafia. unlike hypothetical AKC vig who is more then happy to try to throw suspicion off himself by outing his partner. it's a gambit, and it may pay off depending on who town wants to believe. what's even better is that even if i die and you search me you'll never really know if i was scum or a vig...and so you can't trust that AKC isn't lying.

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I can confirm that Curu found the knife through the button because as a real vig, I happen to be responsible for placing the trap with the knife in the lobby.

Hmm...well, in a HP situation like this, I find it strange that a scum would take a swing at somebody and then just lie low for two days like this. What good would that swing do?

(Would I be allowed to role-claim for Theo? Because I know what he is. And he's definitely not mafia.)


i also totally missed teh very first part but...you claimed to place a trap that would knowingly hurt a player. why would a vig do that?

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Theo hasn't posted since like a week ago...could someone please prod him?

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@ Narsis

It's like if I joined the US army a year after the two atomic bombs were dropped in Japan in 1945 and WW2 ended. I am not directly and personally responsible for dropping the bomb - that is, I did not order it, I was not the pilot of the plane(s) who dropped the bombs, etc. "I" (that is, the country I represent) dropped that bomb.

In the same way, "we" the vigs were said to have "placed" the button and box in the lobby by our role PM's. We were not allowed to discuss or clarify it by the mod. In that sense, we are responsible. However, we didn't put it there insofar as we didn't give a mod command Set: Trap.

Does that make any sense?

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Makes sense to me. if my hunch is correct someone in the lobby room is a mage... who could possibly be the vig considering choas was most likely mafia. Narsis was not hurt last night by the falling chandelier, however AKCPLUTO was along with everyone else and kevin got the worst end of it all or so he did. Because in my action i did not notice anyone else get attacked at all. all I know is the chandelier did fall on us.

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I'll work in reverse order.

Kazio, I didn't ignore Narsis. Narsis posted at 5:29, I at 5:30, he at 5:31, and then I at 5:33-34.

Your quote is from the post at 5:30. I did not see the 5:29 post at that time.


Well I got into that conclusion because if you have replied to Narsis's later posts,
why not the post a few minutes back.


And only you and theo can be the suspect.
So what's your explanation for this?


My explanation is that Theo is the gorilla and the other vig.

Well your theory seems plausible if not for the lights in the lobby getting turned on.
Switching on the lights is equal to one action.


I'm saying that you guys attacked each other on different nights, i.e., Kazio attacked Narsis on N1 then Narsis attacked Kazio on N2.

So, either you are both scum or you retaliated on each other and Narsis is definitely scum.

Maged attacked chaos on n2? thanks.

Either way, Narsis is public enemy number one. And I've got my eye peeled on Kazio.


So you're saying Theo lied to us about his night action?
Well it makes sense so that the suspicion won't be directed towards him.

Anyway we need theo or his replacement to clarify all this things.
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It looks like he lied some....which is irritating. I would have hoped that he was more active and therefore more available to do some strategizing during the nights. At this point, we've done too much freelancing.

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Well, what we need at this point, is a confirmation from the other vigs, and this game is as good as over.

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If only Theo was here!

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Hiya all, I was away till yesterday evening and had to catch-up with other stuff first. I'll read this in about an hour or so and post more.

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Excellent, theo!

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@ Narsis

It's like if I joined the US army a year after the two atomic bombs were dropped in Japan in 1945 and WW2 ended. I am not directly and personally responsible for dropping the bomb - that is, I did not order it, I was not the pilot of the plane(s) who dropped the bombs, etc. "I" (that is, the country I represent) dropped that bomb.

In the same way, "we" the vigs were said to have "placed" the button and box in the lobby by our role PM's. We were not allowed to discuss or clarify it by the mod. In that sense, we are responsible. However, we didn't put it there insofar as we didn't give a mod command Set: Trap.

Does that make any sense?


ok i wasn't aware of that possibility. so what was the purpose of the trap then? or did it not say?

@ccabal: that assumes that Theo, AKC, and that other possible vig are telling the truth. i for one think that AKC is lying. and it seems that Theo has lied as well about his night actions at least once. dont see why he would, except to avoid suspicion...which is a very mafia thing to do.

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Or to cover the fact that he may be a vig. or this could all be a trick and those two are mafia, but I am firmly suspcious of you narsis, because usually em has a good hunch on things. But then again he could be lying too... Tis why I am just searching a body tonight xD....

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The purpose was unclear.

Theo has a unique strategy, fellas.

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Or to cover the fact that he may be a vig. or this could all be a trick and those two are mafia, but I am firmly suspcious of you narsis, because usually em has a good hunch on things. But then again he could be lying too... Tis why I am just searching a body tonight xD....


EM has been wrong many times in previous games when he claimed to be right, even as a townie.

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BTW, I think it's cool that activity is peaking right now.

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If you were not aware narsis, yet the vigs are aware.. how can you claim to be a vig?

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If you were not aware narsis, yet the vigs are aware.. how can you claim to be a vig?


because i dont think it was AKC/Theo vigs that "placed" the trap. i think it's AKC/Theo scum that did.

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