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TMCWPTI #2 - Game Thread

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Welcome to the game RoT! We have 6 days to deadline so you'll have to catch up the best you can. If you have any ?s be sure to ask.

 

Mega Catch-Up VOTE COUNT

CaoCao (1): Electric Mango

 

Not Voting (9): CaoCao, AKCPLUTO, Preston, ccabal86, KevinH, CanucksDynasty, reign of terror, TerrorChrist, Nerau

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Now knowing that D3mon turned out innocent, I see his suspecting me in a different daylight. And so, also CCabals responses.

 

 

He also edited a post in the beginning, which is a noobie thing to do. If I did it, it might be understandable, as I *AM* Noob here. But this guy has been registered in 2009. So by now, he should know the drill.

 

So my conclusion so far: the list E-M made contains no lies, but it is also not entirely complete. However, running through this, I have a strong FOS towards ccabal86.

 

I may have registered in 2009, but this is only my 5th game actually. It took me a while to become aware of mafia. Yes, editing that post wasn't the best idea ever, but as I recall, it was very late and I was quite tired - never realized my mistake untill after it happened. But as mole stated, the game hasn't started yet at that time, and as such game rules didn't apply.

 

As for the quotes, I don't see how they can seem manipulative. In the first one, I merely stated the fact that a quick lynch is not in the town's interest wich I don't think anyone can disagree with. I truly believed there was a risk scum may take advantage of the initial bandwagoning on Kevin and end the day with a quick lynch stripping us from the discussion. Town needs all the discussion time it can get, otherswise, we it can't win.

 

In the second quote I'm arguing for a Day 1 lynch - nothing more, nothing less. Last time I was supporting Day 1 no-lynch, which did happen in the end, and I believe it turned out to be bad strategy. My role turned out to be borderline useless and it's a small miracle we actually lynched a scum based on CD's report, as several others were moving as well.

If I think someone is mafia (like I did with d3mon) then that is whom I will vote for.

 

@Preston - the reason I keep saying that is that everyone should vote who they think is mafia. If that vote happens to be on me...it would not be a big loss since the town will not lose a townie power role. Of course it would be better to lynch mafia instead.

Just from what I have read so far in the game you seemed to be scummier than CD and Cao Cao, but that was just my first idea. I don't even have my role yet so I can't make serious assessments of the game yet. NO FOS(yet)

Read thru all D2 posts, let me know if I need to correct anything.

 

Narsis/AKC. FOS. CD

Herodez/RoT FOS ccabal

Nerau. FOS CD ccabal cao cao

Cao Cao. Has not posted

Ccabal FOS CD Cao Cao

CD FOS Cao Cao

Kevin. FOS CD cao cao ccabal

Preston FOS CD cao cao ccabal

EM Vote cao cao. FOS ccabal

Terror Christ FOS ccabal

 

 

As you can see most people just have FOS's but no votes. With less than a week to go we need to start voting in order to generate further discussions and solidify everyones positions.

FOS: Narsis / AKCPLUTO. If Narsis hadn't gone inactive I'd be voting for him right now

 

As for now: Vote: CanucksDynasty. TBH, I'm only voting for him, because old players are too often given the benefit of doubt and they tend to get away with things newbies wouldn't. CD may be using that to his advantage to cover his bolder approach.

UNOFFICIAL VOTE COUNT

CaoCao (2): Electric Mango, CanucksDynasty

CanucksDynasty (1): ccabal86

Not Voting (6): Preston, TerrorChrist, CaoCao, KevinH, AKCPLUTO, reign of terror

 

With 9 alive, 5 is needed to lynch.

FOS: Narsis / AKCPLUTO. If Narsis hadn't gone inactive I'd be voting for him right now

 

As for now: Vote: CanucksDynasty. TBH, I'm only voting for him, because old players are too often given the benefit of doubt and they tend to get away with things newbies wouldn't. CD may be using that to his advantage to cover his bolder approach.

So when I turn up vanilla townie...you'd be OK with getting lynched the next day? Cuz we're both in the same situation right now of having voted for a townie.

So when I turn up vanilla townie...you'd be OK with getting lynched the next day? Cuz we're both in the same situation right now of having voted for a townie.

 

Me voting for you is no different than you voting for CaoCao. The problem is, we have to vote SOMEONE from our trio. If I had to choose between the two of you, I'd choose you, for reasons already stated.

Me voting for you is no different than you voting for CaoCao. The problem is, we have to vote SOMEONE from our trio. If I had to choose between the two of you, I'd choose you, for reasons already stated.

You know what would really suck? If it was all townies that voted for d3mon. We pretty much gave the game to the mafia.

You know what would really suck? If it was all townies that voted for d3mon. We pretty much gave the game to the mafia.

There is always that assumption but I hope that is not the case

Revived for the day but yea :P

 

Mega Catch-Up VOTE COUNT

CaoCao (2): Electric Mango, CanucksDynasty

CanucksDynasty (1): ccabal86

 

Not Voting (7): CaoCao, AKCPLUTO, Preston, KevinH, reign of terror, TerrorChrist, Nerau

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Still not entirely trusting E-M, I went through this list to see whether we aren't being manipulated, and I came across something else

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So my conclusion so far: the list E-M made contains no lies, but it is also not entirely complete. However, running through this, I have a strong FOS towards ccabal86.

Objectively speaking, I dont see either of the two statements you quote as being THAT suspicious. The initial bandwagon on Kevin (who is all but proven town at this point) was abnormal and DID feel like there might have been a scum or two contributing to it to try and push for a quick lynch before people realized what was happening. I remarked on it during day 1 as a reason I initially thought KevinH town. The second quote was prior to d3mon becoming active and seems to boil down to little more than a no to the idea of no-lynch.

 

Your FOS on ccabal is worth noting as it's coming from one of our few confirmed townies, but I don't find these two specific reasons compelling.

 

FYI, I am Herodez's replacement. I have been waiting for mole to send me my role PM. FOS-ccabal86

Welcome! And I'm impressed/glad to see you've been following the game to date; that should speed things up a bit, and we're low on time this week. I know you withdrew your FOS after your first post that I'm quoting here, but would you please share your thoughts on what you thought ccabal did that was more scummy than CD or cao cao?

 

If I think someone is mafia (like I did with d3mon) then that is whom I will vote for.

 

@Preston - the reason I keep saying that is that everyone should vote who they think is mafia. If that vote happens to be on me...it would not be a big loss since the town will not lose a townie power role. Of course it would be better to lynch mafia instead.

I have a difficult time wrapping my head around the wisdom of just accepting a mis-lynch, but then I'm not one of the trio in the hot seat. We can ill afford too many more mis-lynches; one more and we're at lynch or lose, so for the town's sake we would not benefit from mis-lynching you if you truly are town. I know there's only so much you can say at this point, and people genuinely SHOULD vote for who they think is scum... but offering yourself up as a sacrifice with ready-made deniability for scum voting on you is not necessarily a good thing.

 

If anything cao cao is inactive so at least we will not lose much if he is indeed town
On Day 1 I initially was leaning towards lynching inactives for precisely this reason, but stopped when available replacements were pointed out (those should be in the OP of the game thread...). If we do not have any more replacements waiting in the wings AND cao cao idles out as a townie (instead of scum), then would that make TODAY lynch or lose? I don't like the idea of that. EM asked for a prod on cao cao which will be beneficial, but pending cao cao returning and defending himself OR mole/someone confirming we have a third replacement available (I dont see one?) cao cao will have my vote.

 

There's also the fact that this idea is being forwarded by a 100% confirmed (by death) townie, which means it has no chance of being scum protecting scum... and at this point we need every advantage we can get.

 

Vote: Cao Cao

 

-Preston

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