Well guys, especially Nearu, I have to try and save myself. You are voting wrong. I did not want to come out and say it because I was trying to make my decision easier. People have been saying that Nearu is most likely to be nightkilled, so I was going to use my small power role tonight, to save Nearu.

 

Roleclaim: I'm not sure if we are allowed to post the actual name given, but if you are, then I will post it after confirmation.

 

I have the to power to lock someone up for 1 night, protecting them, or blocking them from using their power. As I said before, I was waiting to use it for when I was pretty sure I knew who was gonna be nightkilled. I believe I can lock myself up as well. Since the this night is going to be important, I was going to use it.

 

Now announcing the claim makes who to save more difficult. Mafia can night kill me, lose lose or I save myself, and hope they pick me, or I guess on someone else and hope they go for them.

Not claiming earlier was just to keep me off their mind, so I could eleminate one of those choices, but since poeple are voting to kill me during the day, and not get a chance to block a Night kill, then I have no choice but to roleclaim.

 

I will comment on the votes against me in another post, just want to get this post out before more people place a vote.

Time for a bold move

 

Vote: FO

 

I believe your a attacking D3dom just for the reason of attacking your so blind you cant see reason and that to me is scummy. And who knows D3 could have been nightkilled remember way back when we all said if there is a cop to wait. Yea i think we actually meant it. Also if town loses what can i say but oh well its better to go out this way then silently in dark

 

I said I believed we needed to vote someone today. I have constantly given my reasons why I suspect d3mon since he also voted for Angel. If I were attacking just to attack, why wait this long. I have been thinking long about the vote, and noone, to me, has as many reasons for me to suspect as Mafia.

 

As to why I don't believe D3mon's roleclaim. If d3mon is a cop and KevinH is Town, then only Kaziocore was Mafia that voted for Angel. I think its more reasonable to believe atleast 2 mafia voted, and as of right now I feel more strongly about d3mon.

Well guys, especially Nearu, I have to try and save myself. You are voting wrong. I did not want to come out and say it because I was trying to make my decision easier. People have been saying that Nearu is most likely to be nightkilled, so I was going to use my small power role tonight, to save Nearu.

 

Roleclaim: I'm not sure if we are allowed to post the actual name given, but if you are, then I will post it after confirmation.

 

I have the to power to lock someone up for 1 night, protecting them, or blocking them from using their power. As I said before, I was waiting to use it for when I was pretty sure I knew who was gonna be nightkilled. I believe I can lock myself up as well. Since the this night is going to be important, I was going to use it.

 

Now announcing the claim makes who to save more difficult. Mafia can night kill me, lose lose or I save myself, and hope they pick me, or I guess on someone else and hope they go for them.

Not claiming earlier was just to keep me off their mind, so I could eleminate one of those choices, but since poeple are voting to kill me during the day, and not get a chance to block a Night kill, then I have no choice but to roleclaim.

 

I will comment on the votes against me in another post, just want to get this post out before more people place a vote.

 

Oh god, not again.

 

Look, if it turns out someone is lying they got pretty lucky they didn't get a counter claim. If the lot of you are lying, nice work, but you still probably got lucky there weren't counter claims. I think it is interesting that Kaziocore and D3mon have claimed and now so has my placeholder to round out the scum. Weird stuff.

 

Seeing as we got the half majority already (8/2 = 4/2 = 2, 3 > 2 right?), I'll reserve my vote for now and see what happens. While I'd like to follow our only townie, I'm not keen to do it without a little more pressure. We came down really fast without really suspecting FightingOkra at all first. I was thinking Nerau would come in and pick Kaziocore or D3mon, but I was very wrong.

 

I'd like to see where Preston lands too as he's been sort of on the other side of KevinH the second half of this game and if by some weird miracle we don't lose but, FightingOkra is a townie (impossible?) then I'd rather have his opinion on the matter before the day closes and I won't be surprised if Kaziocore's next post is a vote.

 

I'm content to leave the half majority to do their business and following the only known townie isn't completely unsound. I'll definitely get back on before 10pm tomorrow and see if anyone has checked in or changed things up. Another role claim maybe? Please, no. If we get a little more discussion going I'll think about a vote on FightingOkra, otherwise I will leave the half majority to do the dirty work.

 

PLEASE, if I am misunderstanding the requirement for the half majority let me know.

Also, I'd like to maintain a stance of using more concrete evidence to vote, so that is why I am reserving my vote for now. If we get some discussion going I could certainly be persuaded to vote. I'd like to hear more voices before doing so.

I was hoping to see Kaziocore respond before I posted - as the one I suspected prior to Nerau's vote, seeing how he reacted to our only known townie's decision could have been informative - but the day is drawing to a close and I'm not going to sit on the fence this time. I'm still leery of Kaziocore's claim - it just hits me too strongly as a perfect fake claim, a vigilante without a second kill to point to. Absent Nerau's voice I likely would have gone with Kazio.

 

However - Nerau is mod-proven town, and per my earlier post's analysis KevinH now has decent odds of being town as well. That's two people I am reasonably sure are town voting for one person whom I dont know a lot about... FO has kinda stayed below the radar until JUST after d3mon roleclaimed. Plus since I was considering Kazio/FO as a scum combo in my last post then I can still feel reasonably confident about this vote.

 

I find FO's roleclaim interesting - particularly given that it's the "bathroom attendant" fakeclaim that failed last game. Considering it seriously for a moment though:

* If you have a one-shot protection role, then if you previously spoke up saying you could protect Nerau then we could have gone that route and had better odds tomorrow without risking our known townie. If scum killed you as a result, it would have reduced the list of those who voted for Angel to three.

* I am frankly surprised that you have not used your one-shot role yet; what is your rationale for not having protected Nerau LAST night, i.e. the night after he was mod-confirmed as town?

* Slight tangent, but if your role is real and you claim that you did not use it last night, that makes Kazio's claim more difficult to believe - scum would have had to have chosen Tracker directly, and given how suspicious he was acting that would have been a strange choice for them to do.

 

So with FO voting first for d3mon and siding with Kazio... I could see those two being scum together.

 

Final analysis: Known townies' choice plus a good rationale against someone I was already considering as possible scum... I can feel confident about that.

 

Vote: FO

 

Here's fingers crossed that I havent missed something major, and that I dont die tonight!

 

-Preston

Oh, and responding to BeeBs (since I didnt see the numbers question):

 

Majority is #alive/2 + 1, removing the remainder if any.

 

8 people alive = 5 majority needed to lynch: 8/2 = 4 + 1 = 5

 

If we had 9 people alive, it would still be 5 majority: 9/2 = 4.5 -> 4 + 1 = 5

 

Half majority is majority/2 rounded up: i.e. 5 majority = 3 half majority, 4 majority = 2 half majority.

 

So yes with Nerau, KevinH and d3mon we had a half majority. I did not need to vote, and you dont either. But now that I actually have something I can feel good about voting for I want to do more than sit on the sidelines.

 

-Preston

I was hoping to see Kaziocore respond before I posted - as the one I suspected prior to Nerau's vote, seeing how he reacted to our only known townie's decision could have been informative - but the day is drawing to a close and I'm not going to sit on the fence this time. I'm still leery of Kaziocore's claim - it just hits me too strongly as a perfect fake claim, a vigilante without a second kill to point to. Absent Nerau's voice I likely would have gone with Kazio.

 

However - Nerau is mod-proven town, and per my earlier post's analysis KevinH now has decent odds of being town as well. That's two people I am reasonably sure are town voting for one person whom I dont know a lot about... FO has kinda stayed below the radar until JUST after d3mon roleclaimed. Plus since I was considering Kazio/FO as a scum combo in my last post then I can still feel reasonably confident about this vote.

 

I find FO's roleclaim interesting - particularly given that it's the "bathroom attendant" fakeclaim that failed last game. Considering it seriously for a moment though:

* If you have a one-shot protection role, then if you previously spoke up saying you could protect Nerau then we could have gone that route and had better odds tomorrow without risking our known townie. If scum killed you as a result, it would have reduced the list of those who voted for Angel to three.

* I am frankly surprised that you have not used your one-shot role yet; what is your rationale for not having protected Nerau LAST night, i.e. the night after he was mod-confirmed as town?

* Slight tangent, but if your role is real and you claim that you did not use it last night, that makes Kazio's claim more difficult to believe - scum would have had to have chosen Tracker directly, and given how suspicious he was acting that would have been a strange choice for them to do.

 

So with FO voting first for d3mon and siding with Kazio... I could see those two being scum together.

 

 

I did not protect Nearu because I did not think he was in anymore danger than anyone else. He was very quiet, keeping under the radar. Also, I figured that the Mafia would kill someone else, possibly someone who was a Townie who was arguing with another Townie, making it seem like the Townie they didn't night kill could be Mafia. If that makes any sense, lol. Basically I figured they could try to Frame someone.

 

Also, the main reason I am even using it tonight, or would have been using it, is because we are getting low on Townies. All previous nights weren't as important.

Final analysis: Known townies' choice plus a good rationale against someone I was already considering as possible scum... I can feel confident about that.

 

Vote: FO

 

Here's fingers crossed that I havent missed something major, and that I dont die tonight!

 

-Preston

Hmm, seems my post got put in the Quote..wierd.

 

I did not protect Nearu because I did not think he was in anymore danger than anyone else. He was very quiet, keeping under the radar. Also, I figured that the Mafia would kill someone else, possibly someone who was a Townie who was arguing with another Townie, making it seem like the Townie they didn't night kill could be Mafia. If that makes any sense, lol. Basically I figured they could try to Frame someone.

 

Also, the main reason I am even using it tonight, or would have been using it, is because we are getting low on Townies. All previous nights weren't as important.

 

^^ this is what I wrote.

If Nerau was protected while I killed Tracker then

FO must be lying but I think it's very unlikely that

both I and the mafia targeted Tracker at the same time.

If he has both a roleblocker role with some doctor power then

it's unlikely that another doctor role would appear.

 

And I'm sorry Preston but I don't think I would ever

convince you of my role claim until the game ends.

Vigilantes usually can only use once their kill

and I used it to reduce the number of suspects

(I was hoping for 7 players for this day instead of 8).

 

Also if both d3mon and I are townies then the mafia

could just side with anyone and try to intensify the

fight between us until one of use get lynched.

Well, those I suspect to be townies have all jumped on FightingOkra. Only those I am skeptical of have not.

 

I have been urging that we take a look at FightingOkra for some time, though I did not expect it would be via stoning him.

 

He has been on my list and I have said as much, albeit low on that list.

 

He voted for Angel Cruz dela Saint. He is one of three role claims to have done so.

 

I don't know why you didn't protect Nerau yesterday if you had the power. The fact that you have it left seems more like a "please don't kill me or you'll be sorry" rather than an actual claim.

 

No guts no glory?

 

Unfortunately, my attempt to follow solid evidence is sort of a wash. There really isn't any is there? Its all paranoia. If I had to pick the scum right now, FightingOkra would be on the list. That's as good as it gets. If he is town and there is a tomorrow I think we'll have something to go on about these role claims.

 

VOTE: FightingOkra

 

I shouldn't have left myself to be the hammer, tomorrow, if there is a tomorrow is going to be hell.

I'm not understanding why people keep saying, "I don't get why you didn't protect Nearu yesterday" I gave my reasons in an earlier post, and it my reasons seem to be right. I mean he's still here, and I still have my power role...

 

Also, I got confirmation, I am a Cleaner. All I can do is lock someone in a closet for the night. No doctor power or anything like that.

No one is gloating.. I guess we got our first scum

It is now night. I have pm'd RoT.

The game is over. FightingOkra Cleaner (One use Roleblocker) has died. The mafia has won!

 

Roles

 

Mafia

D3mon- Godfather

BeeBs- Goon

Preston- Goon

 

 

Town

Tracker- Coffee Boy (Able to give someone a watcher role for a night, given to D3mon on Night 2)

Fighting Okra- Cleaner AKA One-use Roleblocker (Not used)

Kaziocore- Burly Chef AKA One-use Vigilante (Used on Tracker on Night 3)

Nerau- Friend

CanucksDynasty- Friend

ccabal86- Vanilla

Angel Cruz dela Sant- Vanilla

KevinH- Vanilla

Well played Mafia. I was pretty confident about D3mon, but did not expect Preston and Beebs. This has been a very fun 1st time experience, and look forward to more!

Why was I nightkilled first?

 

Good game mafia.

I knew it!!!

Those who think I was lying were scum!

 

Congrats to the mafia...

I wouldn't think we would even win even if

d3mon was lynched as the rest of the townies

are inactive.

Great game everyone!

 

@FO: Glad I was able to surprise you

 

Why was I nightkilled first?

 

Good game mafia.

Two main reasons:

1) You and KevinH were both on the table as possible first night targets, just due to veterancy and having seen how effective your analysis is for the town.

2) You were pushing a sort of 'follow the cop' mentality - which made us wonder if you somehow knew there was a classic cop this game instead of the security-guard-esque one we'd seen in games 1 and 2.

 

The fact I came in as a replacement also hurt - I misjudged how 'suspicious' people were of you day 1. If I'd been paying closer attention we might have tried to keep the suspicion on you for day 2

 

-Preston

A great first game! Nerau really sealed the deal there at the end, but I think Kaziocore is right, the game had enough inactivity to make you guys pretty ineffective.

 

Thanks for being a good sport there at the end FightingOkra. That must have been a shock when you went from 0-100 in less than ten posts.

 

Preston and I got by pretty suspicion free too, which was interesting. I guess we just got a good vibe.

 

What would have happened if D3mon had been lynched? We'd still keep going but no NK power or does a goon get promoted?

A great first game! Nerau really sealed the deal there at the end, but I think Kaziocore is right, the game had enough inactivity to make you guys pretty ineffective.

 

Thanks for being a good sport there at the end FightingOkra. That must have been a shock when you went from 0-100 in less than ten posts.

 

Preston and I got by pretty suspicion free too, which was interesting. I guess we just got a good vibe.

 

What would have happened if D3mon had been lynched? We'd still keep going but no NK power or does a goon get promoted?

shoot

 

oh well GG

I knew it!!!

Those who think I was lying were scum!

 

Congrats to the mafia...

I wouldn't think we would even win even if

d3mon was lynched as the rest of the townies

are inactive.

Kinda funny how that works out Though to be fair you had the bad luck of picking our nightkill for your vigilante kill, which really DID make your roleclaim seem more suspicious - I might not have been able to get away with suspecting you so openly otherwise.

 

A great first game! Nerau really sealed the deal there at the end, but I think Kaziocore is right, the game had enough inactivity to make you guys pretty ineffective.

 

Thanks for being a good sport there at the end FightingOkra. That must have been a shock when you went from 0-100 in less than ten posts.

 

Preston and I got by pretty suspicion free too, which was interesting. I guess we just got a good vibe.

 

What would have happened if D3mon had been lynched? We'd still keep going but no NK power or does a goon get promoted?

Tracker suspected me pretty decently on day 2 - or at the least he tested me/pressed for a reaction and then when I responded he backed off. But yeah, since we were able to keep focus on the four who voted for Angel that kept you and I mostly off the radar.

 

I have to say I did NOT expect Nerau to pick FO - I was just hoping that Id put out enough of a critique of Kazio's roleclaim that Nerau would decide that was the weaker between Kazio and D3mon. I can kinda see why Nerau picked FO though - two roleclaims for Kazio and D3mon, both plausible and both suspicious... versus someone who'd been sitting on the sidelines mostly avoiding attention.

 

If d3mon had been lynched though, I believe we would have had to decide between us who does the kill - the 'godfather' role doesnt really MEAN much as it was written, unless they disagree with the other two scum. In some games the godfather shows up innocent when cops investigate them, but otherwise it's mostly a wasted role slot. Oh - and in case people didnt notice, scum had NO special roles this game other than the nightkill - but then the town had weaker roles too it sounded like?

 

shoot

 

oh well GG

At some point in every game, you gotta take a guess GG.

 

-Preston

good game guys.. for a moment I thought that Kazio got me but :phew: