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[Imran Ehsan]

To MOD: Can Sir Crocodile be MOD killed if there are no replacements for him.

[Electric Mango]

I would rather have him replaced if posible.

[Kaziocore]

I thought there's one guy interested in joining?

[Imran Ehsan]

He quit IRON the last time I checked.

In any case I would be very interested in hearing d3mon and KevinH's take on the current happenings.

[reign of terror]

Bye guys

GL!

[KevinH]

If Sir Crocodile is an inactive scum, he really doesn't hurt us since he won't be able to send in the night kill.

If Sir Crocodile is an inactive townie, he we don't want him mod-killed because that's one more night-kill that the scum has to make.

There's no cop to follow any more so the real question to be answered is whether the masons are telling the truth.

[Electric Mango]

Kevin makes a good point. We should lynch Kevin today and then see if the scum sends in a night kill. I'm quite sure that d3mom is the third mafia but it still makes sense to leave SC alive as cannon fodder.

If we lynch Kevin and demon doesn't send in the night kill to fool us into thinking it's SC, we can always lynch him the next day anyway. I'm all but certain we can wrap this game up soon.

Also, thanks to RoT for role claiming, I'm sure it will not have been in vain.

[d3mon]

@EM, why are you so sure that I am scum?

[Electric Mango]

On my iTouch now so I'll do a better follow later, basically I've been suspicious of you going back to day 1 and yesterday it was you and Kebin who decided to stick up for beebs when everyone else voted him (rightly) lynched.

[KevinH]

I wasn't sticking up for BeeBs. I was merely pointing out that it was possibly a ruse.

Reign of Terror was drawn into role claiming and correctly fingered a scum; he was then killed.

I will again point out that it's not a sure thing that the masons are truly whom they claim to be.

[Kaziocore]

KevinH:
D1:
KevinH being KevinH chose No Lynch on D1 which is a very safe move
since most of his games start with this.

D2:
Followed the majority in lynching KF2001

D3:
Defended BeeBs.
At first he was supporting the EM's plan
but when the cop came out and pointed BeeBs as scum,
started to suspect that RoT, EM, and me are all in cahoots.
When it seems RoT will not be lynched, replaced RoT with
BeeBs.

d3mon:
D1:

ccabal86, I think that makes some sense. However, I think that KF2001 is also just new and not familiar enough with the game to provide much more than the scum tells you pointed out. No offense buddy!

It seems like a few things in your list tow the same line against SirCrocodile. i.e. not understanding why you shouldn't delete a post etc.

That said, I don't know that I would count that as an excuse. In that case, it sounds like one is scum for being over active and one is scum for being underactive and at that point I just have to throw my arms up...

Kaziocore can you explain a bit why you think KF2001 is scum, or is it just that he has short posts?

I think for now I'll renew my suspicions from yesterday. FOS Imran Ehsan i don't have anything new to add, I'm just not settled on either SirCrocodile or KF2001 yet, though I could certainly be persuaded towards a vote for either one. I'd like to see if SirCrocodile gets a confirmed replacement before voting for him. If the replacement does come into the game with a bit of pressure already on them, it might be very telling about their underlying role.

Right now the only connection I can find between BeeBs and d3mon besides voting with BeeBs on D3

D3:
Defended BeeBs and voted RoT

[Imran Ehsan]

KevinH's posts from Day 2:

In the absence of any information, I'm in favor of lynching Sir Crocodile.

If he gets replaced, it wouldn't be nice to lynch the replacement right away.

KevinH's post yesterday:

If Sir Crocodile is an inactive scum, he really doesn't hurt us since he won't be able to send in the night kill.

If Sir Crocodile is an inactive townie, he we don't want him mod-killed because that's one more night-kill that the scum has to make.

There's no cop to follow any more so the real question to be answered is whether the masons are telling the truth.

Why the change in your position. I also find it interesting that both of you and d3mon were gearing to lynch SirCroc on Day 2 before people KF2001's short posts threw the lynching in his favor.

This might come back to bite me in the ass but imho lynching an inactive (SC) is better than lynching KF2001.

Vote: SirCroc

The lack of content in your posts is not helping the town.

The above posts is making me think KevinH and d3mon are working together, and SirCroc is a townie.

I havent yet found any suspicious posts from EM and Kaziocre which would make me think they are scum posing as masons.

[Electric Mango]

I'll turn my attention to d3mon at a later time, right now I would like to review the posts against KevinH and tell everyone why I strongly believe he is our best chance at lynching another mafia.

Post 21
Votes No Lynch as usual, says he believes there is a cop.

Post 54
Again, believes there is a cop, urges against random lynch for fear of killing townie and/or cop.

Post 73
Proposes waiting until Day 2 because somebody might know something. Says right now, "nobody knows nothin"!

Post 74
Gives suggestions on how the cop can blend in and drop hints for us to use if the cop dies.

Day 2

Post 157
Since night has passed, Kevin bets that someone now knows something.

The next post he votes for Sir Crocodile and cites his absenteeism as the reason.

Post 169
I found this post interesting and have quoted it below.

If SirCroc (or anyone for that matter) is inactive, it really hurts at the end of the game when every vote is needed for a lynch. We need to position ourselves for that point in the game.

However, a dead townie is no better than an inactive townie, but an inactive scum won't night-kill so there is some logic for leaving SirCroc alone.

If we can find the other active scum, than an inactive scummy SirCroc won't hurt us.

I'm talking myself out of a vote for SirCroc.

Deadline is approaching, let's make a decision.

Post 178

Switches votes to KF2001, suggests that maybe the cop had found mafia during the night.

Post 197

He attacks me by trying to cast me off as scum immediately after I announce that I have a plan as we neared lynch or lose.

Post 224

After all Kevin's talk during this game about the cop, when the cop finally role claims and points at scum, Kevin chooses an entirely different plan. He wanted us to No lynch so the scum could have a free night kill and start picking off known townies. This was his nail in the coffin.

The game hinges on whether the rest of us believe the proposed roles.
If the proposed roles are really clever scum and we lynch one of our own, we lose.
If they are truly townie, we don't want to lynch one of them.

Vote: No lynch

The night-kill will reveal the truth.
The surviving townies will either join the proposed roles and have a townie majority or know whom to lynch with certainty.

I mean, look back at all of his posts from this game and you can see how many times he talks about the existence of the cop, follow the cop, tips for the cop, and after all that he didn't want to do it when it mattered most. Look at post 178, he changed his vote from SC to KF2001. The reason? Because he proposed he may be following the cop. What?! So he guessed that someone voting for KF2001 MAY have been a cop so he switched his vote but later on decided to ignore the cop's role claim?

Also if you look at almost any post after I role claimed and asked the cop to do the same, Kevin has been trying to cast doubts upon me and others who supported the plan.

For the reasons stated above, I, Electric Percival Wulfric Brian Mango, do hereby and forth with cast my vote upon him.

Vote: KevinH

[KevinH]

Electric Percival Wulfric Brian Mango, Electric Percival Wulfric Brian Mango, Electric Percival Wulfric Brian Mango!

Here's the way I see it, assuming there are two scum left.

• Electric Mango and Kaziocore are either both townie or both scum.
• Imran Ehsan, d3mon, and SirCrocodile either have two scum amongst them or are all townie.

I can't be sure either way, but the responsibility for the death of the cop is with Electric Mango so that tilts the scum scale against him.

Vote: Electric Percival Wulfric Brian Mango

[Kaziocore]

No. The you're the one responsible for the cop's death.
The role claim by the cop yesterday is very necessary as
we will most likely hit SirCrocodile which may probably be townie.

Vote: KevinH

[KevinH]

They always come in twos.

Here me, Imran Ehsan and d3mon, you're my last hope!

[Imran Ehsan]

They always come in twos.

Here me, Imran Ehsan and d3mon, you're my last hope!

I am a bit disappointed. I havent seen much logic and deductions from you in why you think EM and Kazio are scum apart from just claiming KevinH is scum. And of course it is clear Mango and Kazio are working together (as scum partners or as town masons) so it is expected they will vote together. You also dont seem to address the accusations thrown at you...by EMs detailed post earlier.

[Imran Ehsan]

by the way cant edit so..i meant you just straight up claimed EM is scum (not "KevinH") without giving any reasons as why others should believe you.

[Electric Mango]

A haiku for Kevin......


Kevin the bad boy
Lies and murders the townies
We must lynch him now

[KevinH]

Imagine if you would ...

ACT II

The Scene: The Scum Lair
The Time: The latest last night
The Characters: Kaziocore (K) and Electric Mango (EM)

EM: This is sweet! They believed the mason story and the cop actually role-claimed.
K: Too bad he had already fingered BeeBs, but our lynch of a scum lends credibility to our townie claim.
EM: After we night-kill the cop, there will be six players left. We only need one townie to join us against one of the others.
K: Yup, a half-majority at deadline will do it.
EM: Let's go after KevinH. It will be easier to turn one of the others against him than the other way around.
K: Agreed. I'll send in the night-kill...

(fade to black)