Posts made in Day 2:

 

17 KevinH

15 cam177

11 ccabal86

9 Electric Mango

9 Rafay

9 Xx Karl xX

8 Daimos

6 BeeBs

6 OrangeRush7

3 Alternate_Tree

3 reign of terror

2 ABigDeer

2 Angel Cruz dela Sant

2 Eva999 / Nerau

Honestly we really just need to vote someone this time. Day one no votes provide a bit of tang to the game i admit but since it is clearly each night two people are going to die we need to vote on someone. And i know it seems like i'm being scummy Kevin but honestly i just don't think he is with those trying to bring Sanity to our dear Metropolis. But i do find how you act to be odd how every time i confront you on something you have completely ignored the question.

Alright, having glanced over the thread a bit now, nothing strikes me as particularly odd except Daimos' first post of the day. You said RIP comrade and only included one of the deaths from last night, why though? No one else seems to have noticed it but it seemed very odd to me at least unless I missed something.

 

FOS: Rafay as well, he's playing very similarly to last game, throwing out votes with no reasoning which served him very well in the last game, to the towns demise.

 

Whether or not EM was actually investigated at night I'm not sure, but my own disorder references being investigated so there for sure is some sort of cop role.

 

The game setup to me right now seems like its insane townies (each with a disorder) versus a sane mafia with maybe a serial killer thrown in for fun.

Ladies and gentlemen of the jury, I have been accused of completely ignoring the question every time I am confronted. I present the following exhibits:

 

KevinH: "I think it was a pro-town player that had to make a night-kill. If somebody had to die, JohnGato the inactive was the best choice for a townie faction and the worst choice for any other faction. However, he was going to be replaced. From a mafia perspective, one dead townie is as good as another."

Cam177: "Im going to have to disagree with you it was stated earlier that the mod we have usually wont replace unless it is a vital town role. So with the info we could pretty well say that he was important to the town or Mafia. Now we look at it further if it was important to the town the mafia now knew this; so with the info we can also say the mafia would of attacked without regard on JohnGato for the simple fact that he was an important role to the town."

 

Was there a question here? Cam177 incorrectly stated "the mod we have usually wont replace unless it is a vital town role". It's obvious in hindsight that JohnGato didn't have a vital town role. No further discussion needed.

 

Cam177: "What does our sex matter people can we please get back to the game!!!!"

KevinH: "Three pieces of information were given: •Role •Sex •Method of death. It seems to me that discussing this information is playing the game."

 

Cam177: "Honestly, it isnt very bright to be telling your roles like that on day two"

KevinH: "Unless I want to make the scum waste a night-kill on me."

Cam177: "Yes but even if you are lying you are screwing over the dang town"

ccabal86: "Not exactly sure what you're trying to do here Kevin. Are you suggesting we should all come out with some role?"

KevinH: "I do not have any special information that makes Nerau a good lynch candidate. I just think that in the absense of any other information, we might as well lynch an inactive. He's just as likely to be scum as anyone else."

Cam177: "Why lynch when we are looking for a replacement"

KevinH: "I don't see a better lynch candidate and I don't think he deserves a pass because he's getting replaced."

Cam177: "Okay, why such a change, when people were about to lynch JohnGato; you were all for waiting for the replacement. Now it is nerau and you are wanting to lynch before we even get a replacement."

Cam177: "KevinH unless you still have logical reason to lynch eva id say unlynch now"

KevinH: "Just because the player changed, it doesn't mean the affiliation of the character changed. If Nerau was worth a vote, then Eva999 is worth a vote. Convince me otherwise."

Cam177: "Convince us why they are worth a vote right now do you have info the town could use or are you hiding the fact that you have plans?"

KevinH: "The only thing I know about Nerau/Eva999 is that they were inactive and are now replaced. Also of interest is the vote and unvote by Rafay and the defenses by Cam177, OrangeRush7, and Beebs. (Are they townies keeping a known townie alive? Or are they scum trying to influence votes away from one of their own?) Nevertheless, I don't see eight votes accumulating to secure a lynch so I'll just welcome Eva999 to the game."

 

Cam177: "It seems your trying to point fingers. You keep going after people who are inactive which is understandable but when they come back you still want them lynched"

 

Was there a question here? Note my previous statement that just because the player changed, it doesn't mean the affiliation of the character changed.

 

Cam177: "Honestly im less concerned with him and more concerned with KevinH. Not to mention when we were going to lynch johngato for inactivity he was all against it because we were getting a replacement but when it came to Eva he wanted to lynch even though we were getting one."

KevinH: "I favor no-lynching on day 1 because nobody knows anything and it's essentially random. I favor lynching on day 2 because somebody knows something and we can use voting subtleties in the future."

 

KevinH: "Speaking of subtleties, we now have Cam177 redirecting attention away from Rafay and toward me. The plot thickens ..."

Cam177: "And i know it seems like i'm being scummy Kevin but honestly i just don't think he is with those trying to bring Sanity to our dear Metropolis. But i do find how you act to be odd how every time i confront you on something you have completely ignored the question."

 

Ladies and gentlemen of the jury, I have been accused of completely ignoring the question every time I am confronted. In fact, I have proven that every confrontation was indeed answered. I rest my case.

Alright, having glanced over the thread a bit now, nothing strikes me as particularly odd except Daimos' first post of the day. You said RIP comrade and only included one of the deaths from last night, why though? No one else seems to have noticed it but it seemed very odd to me at least unless I missed something.

 

Hm, I assumed it's because they were both from NPO, but now that you mention it, it is a bit odd.

@Karl

 

I have nothing to contribute.

Hm, I assumed it's because they were both from NPO, but now that you mention it, it is a bit odd.

Honestly now i know this is going to sound wrong but just peaking from a pacfican view anywhere we are if a comrade falls we tell them RIP it is just how we are we are very much like a RL family. In saying that i dont know if he was speaking from a pacifican point of view or if he is scum

ABigDeer says he has nothing to contribute.

I'll make a poem and he can follow suit.

 

Few posts would make for a boring game.

I make up stories, do the same!

 

The fun of the game is seeing people lie

Four scum are there, they need to die.

 

We can play the odds but still be wrong

The scum will lie and play along

 

Eventually we'll find a scum and kill him dead

Then look back at everything he said

 

So pick a theme and go for broke

You'll be glad you finally spoke!

ABigDeer says he has nothing to contribute.

I'll make a poem and he can follow suit.

 

Few posts would make for a boring game.

I make up stories, do the same!

 

The fun of the game is seeing people lie

Four scum are there, they need to die.

 

We can play the odds but still be wrong

The scum will lie and play along

 

Eventually we'll find a scum and kill him dead

Then look back at everything he said

 

So pick a theme and go for broke

You'll be glad you finally spoke!

 

I might have missed it, but are you just guessing that there's 4 scum based on the number of players, or did we get that info at some point?

I'm just guessing based on an original start with 16 players. 1 out of 4 assigned as scum is a typical setup.

Townie points:

+1 for not being part of the day 1 lynch attempt on JohnGato

+1 for being active

+1 for getting probed

 

Most likely to be townie (3 points)

Electric Mango

 

Probably townie or playing well as scum (2 points)

BeeBs

ccabal86

Eva999

Xx Karl xX

 

Under scrutiny (1 point)

ABigDeer

Alternate_Tree

Angel Cruz dela Sant

cam177

Daimos

OrangeRush7

Rafay

 

Most likely to be scum (0 points)

reign of terror

Posts made in Day 2:

 

17 KevinH

 

Most posts = definite scum.

 

Most likely to be scum (0 points)

reign of terror

 

Nice try, but using a biased scale to prove I'm scum doesn't really make logical sense. I'm a vanilla townie with a small power role that doesn't activate until I die.

So you're kind of like Obi Won Kenobi, if the scum strike you down you only become more powerful?

But he still has much to learn, Master. His abilities have made him, well… arrogant.

So you're kind of like Obi Won Kenobi, if the scum strike you down you only become more powerful?

 

In a way, yes.

 

But he still has much to learn, Master. His abilities have made him, well… arrogant.

 

Challenging your views makes me arrogant?

It's a line from Star Wars.

 

(No personal attack intended)

It's a line from Star Wars.

 

(No personal attack intended)

 

Ah ok, I was too slow to catch it the first time.

Posted RIP on JohnGato after it was announced by MOD that he died. I call all friendlies comrades specially Pacificans

Posted RIP on JohnGato after it was announced by MOD that he died. I call all friendlies comrades specially Pacificans

 

Ah, I don't talk to other aliances all that much, I didnt even realize you guys weren't IRON rofl.

@Karl

 

I have nothing to contribute.

 

And that is what is making you look scummy to me. maybe if you posted your thoughts on what was happening, or were at least active in some way it would convince me differently. Also, that is not a very good defense to try and make yourself not look scummy...

people we have three days left and i dont like the idea of a nolynch again s can we pick someone?

And that is what is making you look scummy to me. maybe if you posted your thoughts on what was happening, or were at least active in some way it would convince me differently. Also, that is not a very good defense to try and make yourself not look scummy...

 

My thoughts?

 

It's day two and we are two townies down. It very much seems that the town still has no solid evidence as to who is scum and are still trying to find something and this is where we are moving to inactivity and start to point fingers at people, and it's not always the case that it means they're scum. I don't know who to point my finger at because I don't see anyone who could be scum probably apart from the people who voted to lynch on day 1 but that's about it, and there were about 6 people who voted for him and at the end of the day there were two: Rafay and Damios. However if some of the scum were voting, I'd assume they would follow the no lynch pattern to not have themselves exposed.

 

My defence wasn't there to convince you or the town either, it was an explanation as to why. I'm not going to convince to you that I'm a townie, it's up for you to decide.

Vote: ccabal86

 

No one else really stands out as being scummy but I strongly believe in lynching today. ccabl86and KevinH already had a vote on them so I thought I would have the best chance of getting one of them lynched. Between the two, KevinH seems to be more townie and ccabal86 seems like he could be a mafia trying to blend in.

Vote: ccabal86

 

No one else really stands out as being scummy but I strongly believe in lynching today. ccabl86and KevinH already had a vote on them so I thought I would have the best chance of getting one of them lynched. Between the two, KevinH seems to be more townie and ccabal86 seems like he could be a mafia trying to blend in.

 

Just pointing out that Rafay has 2 votes on him, you seemed to miss that...

 

I would also like note that if I hadn't pushed for a no-lynch yesterday, we'd be 3 townies down, not just 2.

I'm thinking that at least one of the people who voted for JohnGato is scum. First, JohnGato has been confirmed as townie. The scum, obviously, would have known this before the rest of us. It came down to three spots left. Which means, in a game where we have three or four scum, they could have sealed the deal right there. If it is a three scum game then JohnGato's survival until the night phase is explained by not having enough guns, only two players left at that point. If we're dealing with a four scum team it is even more probable that there was at least one scum already in that pile. It is the only objectively scummy information I think we have at this point. Of course they could have just chose not to do it. However, in a pile on that quick with so many people to point fingers at, it probably would have been a safe bet. I realize both scenarios are a bit shaky, but even if I am wrong JohnGato is still a townie and those people attempted to put him to death. I'd bet at least one scum jumped in the bandwagon.

 

Therefore, I'll be lynching either Rafay or OrangeRush7.

Rafay claimed that we might as well get this over with quickly when he voted. There is a way to spin everything, but I see this in one of two lights. Either he genuinely feels that way, and that is a severely unhelpful attitude for the town. Or he was trying to pull in more mob votes on JohnGato by treating it like a foregone conclusion. I find neither to be pro-town.

OrangeRush7 would be my far away number two, he voted and claimed we might as well lynch him. I don't think that is a very strong position. I don't think it should ever come to just that.

 

I'd like to hear a bit more about how other people are feeling about Rafay before voting. Last time he seemed scummy and we all told ourselves it couldn't be true. I think this time he has been objectively scummy and I don't want to make that mistake again.