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[OP-02] WEREWOLVES WON: Carbon-14

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Hmm...well i don't think the seer should role claim as it would basically be pointless since it won't prove anything since we don't even know if there are werewolves. the only time the seer should role claim is if they get an investigation that says someone is a werewolf. But now onto the dilemma of what to do today. if we lynch and get it wrong we lose. and if we no lynch today, then tomorrow we will have to lynch correctly or lose, and honestly i don't think the seer is going to turn the tide of the game. we don't even know if his role is useful, and if it is, the chances of him investigating the scum is the same chance we have to lynch the scum. So since we're in a crap position, i think we have to make the crap choice and just lynch someone randomly today. so because of that:

 

Vote: Rafay

 

Why? honestly it's because i pulled up a random number generator and his number came up. If i'm wrong then i guess the scum will pile on and we lose. but it doesn't matter because we will be in pretty much the same position tomorrow since right now we have 1/3 chance of getting the scum and tomorrow we would only have 2/5 chance of getting the scum. that's only like a 7% better chance to get the scum. so why delay the inevitable and hope that the seer magically investigates the scum? Time to nut up or shut up.

No, he's saying that since the powerball was 10, that if the cop and seer did what he suggested, they would have investigated someone in group B. and so one would think that the scum would have killed someone in that group hoping to get the person that was investigated. but for some reason they decided to go with Imran. Who know why they did it, but it seems to have worked out for them >.<

 

Karl understands me. He must be townie.

 

Vote: Rafay

 

We might as well lynch now. We need to get lucky regardless. I trust Karl and his luck.

Hmm...well i don't think the seer should role claim as it would basically be pointless since it won't prove anything since we don't even know if there are werewolves. the only time the seer should role claim is if they get an investigation that says someone is a werewolf. But now onto the dilemma of what to do today. if we lynch and get it wrong we lose. and if we no lynch today, then tomorrow we will have to lynch correctly or lose, and honestly i don't think the seer is going to turn the tide of the game. we don't even know if his role is useful, and if it is, the chances of him investigating the scum is the same chance we have to lynch the scum. So since we're in a crap position, i think we have to make the crap choice and just lynch someone randomly today. so because of that:

 

Vote: Rafay

 

Why? honestly it's because i pulled up a random number generator and his number came up. If i'm wrong then i guess the scum will pile on and we lose. but it doesn't matter because we will be in pretty much the same position tomorrow since right now we have 1/3 chance of getting the scum and tomorrow we would only have 2/5 chance of getting the scum. that's only like a 7% better chance to get the scum. so why delay the inevitable and hope that the seer magically investigates the scum? Time to nut up or shut up.

I cant deny your logic it makes perfect sense and with us not being sure what were up against we can easily say we have a 50 percent chance that it is either a werewolf or a Mafia setup. We can also say that currently there is what a 1/6th chance of us getting the seer. and then again there is a 50% chance of the seer being useful. So with that knowledge I:

  1. Vote: Rafay
  2. Hope that we are making a good choice and it isnt the seer and if it is the seer that they had no real power that could benefit the town (hopefully were up against mafia)

Wait so you're just gonna lynch me cuz of a random number generator.

 

OK well you wanted it you got it. i'm a seer cop you fools now look wat you've done. You've lost your only advantage.

 

I investigated KevinH. He was clean. Now look wat you've done. You've basically handed the game to them on a silver platter.

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Rafay (4): Xx Karl xX, KevinH, Alternate_Tree, cam177

Alternate_Tree (1): d3mon

 

Not Voting (1): Rafay

 

Deadline: Sunday, 7th of October

 

Votes needed to lynch: 4

Votes needed on deadline: 2

Rafay, Werewolf, was lynched

 

IT IS NOW NIGHT TWO.

NIGHT ACTIONS TO ME BY THURSDAY.

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Xx Karl xX, Vanilla Townie, was found dead

 

DAY 3 starts

Deadline: Thursday, 11th of October at exactly the same time I posted this

 

Votes needed to lynch: 3

Votes needed during deadline: 2

I investigated KevinH. He was clean. Now look wat you've done. You've basically handed the game to them on a silver platter.

 

So Rafay throws suspicion on KevinH, I don't think this implicates KevinH as a werewolf because it was after there were enough votes to lynch Rafay, so he probably wouldn't give up his partner.

 

The seer is still alive, so they know between 0-2 of the 3 people besides himself, depending on how lucky he got.

 

I see two ways to play this, we can follow the seer; they can give us what evidence they have if they think it is sufficient to end the game, or if they aren't sure, if they have investigated someone who is already dead, we go with a no lynch and then see what evidence tomorrow brings.

 

The werewolf has a 1/3 chance of killing the seer, and then it'd be just a guessing game between whoever is alive at that point.

 

It seems like we might want to try to end it today with a lynch, but I don't really know who

Definitely Alive

  1. Alternate_Tree
  2. KevinH
  3. d3mon
  4. cam177

Definitely Dead

Imran Ehsan, Town Cop, was found dead on NIGHT 1

Rafay, Werewolf, was lynched on DAY 2

Xx Karl xX, Vanilla Townie, was found dead on NIGHT 2

 

This is good news.

 

There's a werewolf and a seer still alive.

I'm a vanilla townie. I like Alternate_Tree's analysis so he gets townie points.

 

I'm inclined to lynch now; even with another investigation it will be a matter of guessing whom to trust.

This is good news.

 

There's a werewolf and a seer still alive.

I'm a vanilla townie. I like Alternate_Tree's analysis so he gets townie points.

 

I'm inclined to lynch now; even with another investigation it will be a matter of guessing whom to trust.

To lynch now isn't a good idea unless the seer has information we can use we would be lynching completely in the dark which isnt good now we have 3 against 1 so 4 people. if we lynch and it is wrong we lose because that gives the Wolf a a 1v1 with the wolf winning. So unless the seer has information he wants to give up to help us i said No:Lynch

To lynch now isn't a good idea unless the seer has information we can use we would be lynching completely in the dark which isnt good now we have 3 against 1 so 4 people. if we lynch and it is wrong we lose because that gives the Wolf a a 1v1 with the wolf winning. So unless the seer has information he wants to give up to help us i say No:Lynch.

 

Minor edit to my above post

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No Lynch (1): cam177

 

Not Voting (3): Alternate_Tree, d3mon, KevinH

 

Deadline: Thursday, 11th of October

 

Votes needed to lynch: 3

Votes needed on deadline: 2

Edited by Kaziocore

I have to agree with cam177, the seer doesn't seem to have enough info to definitively declare someone as the wolf, and if we lynch wrong the game is lost. The worst that can happen if we wait a day is the seer is lynched and it comes down to a guessing game of the last 3 people, but if we mislynch today we definitely lose.

 

Vote: No lynch

From my perspective as a vanilla townie, the odds are about the same whether I lynch today or tomorrow.

 

The situation is such that the one remaining scum has to get one townie to agree with him and the then the scum wins.

 

Tomorrow, at best, there will be a seer with knowledge that someone is surely townie or surely werewolf.

There will also be a werewolf that will claim to be a seer. I won't know whom to trust.

 

The fact that the seer will gain that knowledge overnight doesn't seem to matter.

 

The other vanilla townie is in the same position as me.

 

However, it would be better for the town to have the seer lynching with confidence so I am going to go with the no-lynch today.

 

Before I vote, let me point the strongest finger of suspicion at D3mon.

 

Yesterday's vote had one player that didn't for the scum Rafay.

 

Rafay (4): Xx Karl xX, KevinH, Alternate_Tree, cam177

Alternate_Tree (1): d3mon

 

Not Voting (1): Rafay

 

If I survive the night, I will vote for D3mon.

 

If I get night-killed, I strongly encourage the two remaining townies to vote for D3mon.

No matter what is said from this point forward, it will be a matter of taking a chance on whom to trust.

The voting pattern clearly points to D3mon as scum. Don't let eloquent words sway you from the facts.

 

Vote: No Lynch

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No Lynch (3): cam177, Alternate_Tree, KevinH

 

Not Voting (1): d3mon

 

Deadline: Thursday, 11th of October

 

Votes needed to lynch: 3

Votes needed on deadline: 2

IT IS NOW NIGHT THREE.

NIGHT ACTIONS TO ME BY SUNDAY.

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Alternate_Tree, Town Seer, was found dead

 

DAY 4 starts

Deadline: Sunday, 14th of October at exactly the same time I posted this

 

Votes needed to lynch: 2

Votes needed during deadline: 1

Edited by Kaziocore

So its left to me KevinH and Cam177.

 

Knowing that KevinH has already decided to lynch me, I guess the game is lost.. (unless he is the other werewolf)

 

Anyhow, because I might not get a chance to explain my vote later and because I owe it to the other surviving townie, here is my explaination

 

I am always suspicious of any bandwagon, and what I saw was a lynch that could have finished the game for the town and a lot of votes piling on very quickly (3-4 hrs), moreover there was very little discussion or reason behind why Rafay was chosen.. We did get lucky and yes that left me sticking out like a sore thumb, but as a townie, I was only trying to avert an action that could have lost the game for the town, specially when I thought we still had a good chance that the seer was the active cop role in the game.

So its left to me KevinH and Cam177.

 

Knowing that KevinH has already decided to lynch me, I guess the game is lost.. (unless he is the other werewolf)

 

Anyhow, because I might not get a chance to explain my vote later and because I owe it to the other surviving townie, here is my explaination

 

I am always suspicious of any bandwagon, and what I saw was a lynch that could have finished the game for the town and a lot of votes piling on very quickly (3-4 hrs), moreover there was very little discussion or reason behind why Rafay was chosen.. We did get lucky and yes that left me sticking out like a sore thumb, but as a townie, I was only trying to avert an action that could have lost the game for the town, specially when I thought we still had a good chance that the seer was the active cop role in the game.

While what you said makes perfect sense if there hadnt of been a vote that would of screwed us either way

 

While D3mon's explanation is certainly plausible, I can't think of Cam177 as more suspicious.

 

I'll place my vote and see what happens.

 

Vote: D3mon

i agree with the above statement so Vote: D3mon

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