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Setup

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• 2 Mafia Goons or 2 Werewolves
  
• 3 Townies
  
• 1 Cop
  
• 1 Seer
  

Game Mechanics

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• Daystart
  
• Mafia Goons or Werewolves are chosen randomly by the mod pregame
  
• Cop gets results in the form of Mafia/Not Mafia
  
• Seer gets results in the form of Werewolf/Not Werewolf
  

Rules

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2. Communication outside the thread (if your role specifically allows it) is allowed until the game begins.
   
3. There is to be NO personal communication outside of the forum postings unless your role PM specifically allows it. If someone contacts you outside the game you should report it to the game Mod IMMEDIATELY.
    
   
4. Players who do not post for 48 hours will be prodded. A player who fails to post within 24 hours of being prodded will be replaced.
   
5. A player who has been prodded 3 times is subject to possible replacement without further notice (player-requested prods do not count towards this total).
    
   
6. Days will last 8 days. Nights will last 2 days.
   
7. Extensions are given only in extreme circumstances.
   
8. Deadlines may be shortened if activity is too low, or if all Night choices have been received early.
    
   
9. Normally, a simple majority of all living players must agree on one person (via voting) for a Lynch to occur (simple majority = ½ # of living players +1, rounded down).
   
10. If no one has a simple majority of votes at deadline, only a half-majority is needed. (simple majority / 2, rounded up).
    
11. If there are 2 players with the same amount of at least half-majority votes at deadline, then I will lynch the one who reached that number of votes first.
    
12. During day you may vote using bold (Vote: PlayerX). If you do not wish to lynch, you may bold Vote: No Lynch.
    
13. You may Vote: No Lynch - a simple majority of these vote types is usually required to send the game to Night phase without a Lynch.
    
14. Once a player has reached a simple majority of votes no further unvoting will change their fate.
    
15. When a player is lynched the game enters twilight until I post a death scene; all players may continue to post.
    
16. If you are killed (either via lynch or night kill) you may no longer post except for a brief “Bah!”-type post that contains NO game related information.
    
17. Any player with a Night action may instead submit a “No Action” PM to let the Mod know that you do not want to perform your expected action that Night phase.
     
    
18. Darkened Yellow text is reserved for the Mod.
    
19. No invisible/small/encrypted text is allowed.
    
20. Editing of posts is not allowed
    
21. Please bold all requests to the Mod so that they don’t get missed.
    
22. Rules violations will be dealt with according to their severity (up to and including a Modkill) as the Mod sees fit.
    
23. Modkills may be accompanied by a change to day/night. The offender’s role will be changed to Neutral Survivor, which guarantees a loss.
    
24. No set of rules can be all-encompassing. I reserve the right to take any action at any time, for any reason.
    However, I try to be extremely reasonable. If you have any questions about the game, rules, or players, please ask the Moderator via PM.
    

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Role PM

 

Welcome, [Player Name]. You are a Mafia Goon, along with your partner, [Player Name].

 

Abilities:

Factional Communication - During the night phase you may talk with your partner.

Factional kill - Each night phase, one of you or your partner may perform the factional kill.

 

Win Condition:

You win when all members of the town have been eliminated or nothing can prevent this from occurring.

Welcome, [Player Name]. You are a Werewolf, along with your partner, [Player Name].

 

Abilities:

Factional Communication - During the night phase you may talk with your partner.

Factional kill - Each night phase, one of you or your partner may perform the factional kill.

 

Win Condition:

You win when all members of the town have been eliminated or nothing can prevent this from occurring.

Welcome, [Player Name], you are a Vanilla Townie.

 

Abilities:

Democracy - Your weapon is your vote, you have no night actions.

 

Win Condition:

You win when all threats to the town have been eliminated.

Welcome, [Player Name], you are a Town Cop

 

Abilities:

Investigation - Each night phase, you may investigate one player in the game by PM'ing the mod. You will get results back in the form of Mafia/Not Mafia.

Mental State - You know you are guaranteed to be sane.

 

Win Condition:

You win when all threats to the town have been eliminated.

Welcome, [Player Name], you are a Town Seer

 

Abilities:

Investigation - Each night phase, you may investigate one player in the game by PM'ing the mod. You will get results back in the form of Werewolf/Not Werewolf.

Mental State - You know you are guaranteed to be sane.

 

Win Condition:

You win when all threats to the town have been eliminated.

Definitely Alive

1. KevinH
   
2. d3mon
   
3. cam177
   

Definitely Dead

Imran Ehsan, Town Cop, was found dead on NIGHT 1

Rafay, Werewolf, was lynched on DAY 2

Xx Karl xX, Vanilla Townie, was found dead on NIGHT 2

Alternate_Tree, Town Seer, was found dead on NIGHT 3

Edited October 7, 201214 yr by Kaziocore

Hmm...well i don't think the seer should role claim as it would basically be pointless since it won't prove anything since we don't even know if there are werewolves. the only time the seer should role claim is if they get an investigation that says someone is a werewolf. But now onto the dilemma of what to do today. if we lynch and get it wrong we lose. and if we no lynch today, then tomorrow we will have to lynch correctly or lose, and honestly i don't think the seer is going to turn the tide of the game. we don't even know if his role is useful, and if it is, the chances of him investigating the scum is the same chance we have to lynch the scum. So since we're in a crap position, i think we have to make the crap choice and just lynch someone randomly today. so because of that:

 

Vote: Rafay

 

Why? honestly it's because i pulled up a random number generator and his number came up. If i'm wrong then i guess the scum will pile on and we lose. but it doesn't matter because we will be in pretty much the same position tomorrow since right now we have 1/3 chance of getting the scum and tomorrow we would only have 2/5 chance of getting the scum. that's only like a 7% better chance to get the scum. so why delay the inevitable and hope that the seer magically investigates the scum? Time to nut up or shut up.

No, he's saying that since the powerball was 10, that if the cop and seer did what he suggested, they would have investigated someone in group B. and so one would think that the scum would have killed someone in that group hoping to get the person that was investigated. but for some reason they decided to go with Imran. Who know why they did it, but it seems to have worked out for them >.<

 

Karl understands me. He must be townie.

 

Vote: Rafay

 

We might as well lynch now. We need to get lucky regardless. I trust Karl and his luck.

Well, to get the ball rolling, either good or bad, I'll trust Karl's luck

 

Vote: Rafay

I see scum trying to bandwagon.

 

Vote:Alternate_Tree

Hmm...well i don't think the seer should role claim as it would basically be pointless since it won't prove anything since we don't even know if there are werewolves. the only time the seer should role claim is if they get an investigation that says someone is a werewolf. But now onto the dilemma of what to do today. if we lynch and get it wrong we lose. and if we no lynch today, then tomorrow we will have to lynch correctly or lose, and honestly i don't think the seer is going to turn the tide of the game. we don't even know if his role is useful, and if it is, the chances of him investigating the scum is the same chance we have to lynch the scum. So since we're in a crap position, i think we have to make the crap choice and just lynch someone randomly today. so because of that:

 

Vote: Rafay

 

Why? honestly it's because i pulled up a random number generator and his number came up. If i'm wrong then i guess the scum will pile on and we lose. but it doesn't matter because we will be in pretty much the same position tomorrow since right now we have 1/3 chance of getting the scum and tomorrow we would only have 2/5 chance of getting the scum. that's only like a 7% better chance to get the scum. so why delay the inevitable and hope that the seer magically investigates the scum? Time to nut up or shut up.

I cant deny your logic it makes perfect sense and with us not being sure what were up against we can easily say we have a 50 percent chance that it is either a werewolf or a Mafia setup. We can also say that currently there is what a 1/6th chance of us getting the seer. and then again there is a 50% chance of the seer being useful. So with that knowledge I:

1. Vote: Rafay
   
2. Hope that we are making a good choice and it isnt the seer and if it is the seer that they had no real power that could benefit the town (hopefully were up against mafia)

Wait so you're just gonna lynch me cuz of a random number generator.

 

OK well you wanted it you got it. i'm a seer cop you fools now look wat you've done. You've lost your only advantage.

 

I investigated KevinH. He was clean. Now look wat you've done. You've basically handed the game to them on a silver platter.

Rafay (4): Xx Karl xX, KevinH, Alternate_Tree, cam177

Alternate_Tree (1): d3mon

 

Not Voting (1): Rafay

 

Deadline: Sunday, 7th of October

 

Votes needed to lynch: 4

Votes needed on deadline: 2

Rafay, Werewolf, was lynched

 

IT IS NOW NIGHT TWO.

NIGHT ACTIONS TO ME BY THURSDAY.

Xx Karl xX, Vanilla Townie, was found dead

 

DAY 3 starts

Deadline: Thursday, 11th of October at exactly the same time I posted this

 

Votes needed to lynch: 3

Votes needed during deadline: 2

I investigated KevinH. He was clean. Now look wat you've done. You've basically handed the game to them on a silver platter.

 

So Rafay throws suspicion on KevinH, I don't think this implicates KevinH as a werewolf because it was after there were enough votes to lynch Rafay, so he probably wouldn't give up his partner.

 

The seer is still alive, so they know between 0-2 of the 3 people besides himself, depending on how lucky he got.

 

I see two ways to play this, we can follow the seer; they can give us what evidence they have if they think it is sufficient to end the game, or if they aren't sure, if they have investigated someone who is already dead, we go with a no lynch and then see what evidence tomorrow brings.

 

The werewolf has a 1/3 chance of killing the seer, and then it'd be just a guessing game between whoever is alive at that point.

 

It seems like we might want to try to end it today with a lynch, but I don't really know who

Imho, if at this time the seer can confirm two townies then he should roleclaim.

Xx Karl xX, Vanilla Townie, was found dead

 

I had the suspicion this would happen, the scum must be scared of my mad skillz. hopefully you guys can get that last scum

Definitely Alive

1. Alternate_Tree
   
2. KevinH
   
3. d3mon
   
4. cam177
   

Definitely Dead

Imran Ehsan, Town Cop, was found dead on NIGHT 1

Rafay, Werewolf, was lynched on DAY 2

Xx Karl xX, Vanilla Townie, was found dead on NIGHT 2

 

This is good news.

 

There's a werewolf and a seer still alive.

I'm a vanilla townie. I like Alternate_Tree's analysis so he gets townie points.

 

I'm inclined to lynch now; even with another investigation it will be a matter of guessing whom to trust.

This is good news.

 

There's a werewolf and a seer still alive.

I'm a vanilla townie. I like Alternate_Tree's analysis so he gets townie points.

 

I'm inclined to lynch now; even with another investigation it will be a matter of guessing whom to trust.

To lynch now isn't a good idea unless the seer has information we can use we would be lynching completely in the dark which isnt good now we have 3 against 1 so 4 people. if we lynch and it is wrong we lose because that gives the Wolf a a 1v1 with the wolf winning. So unless the seer has information he wants to give up to help us i said No:Lynch

To lynch now isn't a good idea unless the seer has information we can use we would be lynching completely in the dark which isnt good now we have 3 against 1 so 4 people. if we lynch and it is wrong we lose because that gives the Wolf a a 1v1 with the wolf winning. So unless the seer has information he wants to give up to help us i say No:Lynch.

 

Minor edit to my above post

No Lynch (1): cam177

 

Not Voting (3): Alternate_Tree, d3mon, KevinH

 

Deadline: Thursday, 11th of October

 

Votes needed to lynch: 3

Votes needed on deadline: 2

Edited October 5, 201214 yr by Kaziocore

I have to agree with cam177, the seer doesn't seem to have enough info to definitively declare someone as the wolf, and if we lynch wrong the game is lost. The worst that can happen if we wait a day is the seer is lynched and it comes down to a guessing game of the last 3 people, but if we mislynch today we definitely lose.

 

Vote: No lynch

From my perspective as a vanilla townie, the odds are about the same whether I lynch today or tomorrow.

 

The situation is such that the one remaining scum has to get one townie to agree with him and the then the scum wins.

 

Tomorrow, at best, there will be a seer with knowledge that someone is surely townie or surely werewolf.

There will also be a werewolf that will claim to be a seer. I won't know whom to trust.

 

The fact that the seer will gain that knowledge overnight doesn't seem to matter.

 

The other vanilla townie is in the same position as me.

 

However, it would be better for the town to have the seer lynching with confidence so I am going to go with the no-lynch today.

 

Before I vote, let me point the strongest finger of suspicion at D3mon.

 

Yesterday's vote had one player that didn't for the scum Rafay.

 

Rafay (4): Xx Karl xX, KevinH, Alternate_Tree, cam177

Alternate_Tree (1): d3mon

 

Not Voting (1): Rafay

 

If I survive the night, I will vote for D3mon.

 

If I get night-killed, I strongly encourage the two remaining townies to vote for D3mon.

No matter what is said from this point forward, it will be a matter of taking a chance on whom to trust.

The voting pattern clearly points to D3mon as scum. Don't let eloquent words sway you from the facts.

 

Vote: No Lynch

No Lynch (3): cam177, Alternate_Tree, KevinH

 

Not Voting (1): d3mon

 

Deadline: Thursday, 11th of October

 

Votes needed to lynch: 3

Votes needed on deadline: 2

IT IS NOW NIGHT THREE.

NIGHT ACTIONS TO ME BY SUNDAY.

Alternate_Tree, Town Seer, was found dead

 

DAY 4 starts

Deadline: Sunday, 14th of October at exactly the same time I posted this

 

Votes needed to lynch: 2

Votes needed during deadline: 1

Edited October 6, 201214 yr by Kaziocore

Well poop on it, good luck townies

So its left to me KevinH and Cam177.

 

Knowing that KevinH has already decided to lynch me, I guess the game is lost.. (unless he is the other werewolf)

 

Anyhow, because I might not get a chance to explain my vote later and because I owe it to the other surviving townie, here is my explaination

 

I am always suspicious of any bandwagon, and what I saw was a lynch that could have finished the game for the town and a lot of votes piling on very quickly (3-4 hrs), moreover there was very little discussion or reason behind why Rafay was chosen.. We did get lucky and yes that left me sticking out like a sore thumb, but as a townie, I was only trying to avert an action that could have lost the game for the town, specially when I thought we still had a good chance that the seer was the active cop role in the game.

While D3mon's explanation is certainly plausible, I can't think of Cam177 as more suspicious.

 

I'll place my vote and see what happens.

 

Vote: D3mon

So its left to me KevinH and Cam177.

 

Knowing that KevinH has already decided to lynch me, I guess the game is lost.. (unless he is the other werewolf)

 

Anyhow, because I might not get a chance to explain my vote later and because I owe it to the other surviving townie, here is my explaination

 

I am always suspicious of any bandwagon, and what I saw was a lynch that could have finished the game for the town and a lot of votes piling on very quickly (3-4 hrs), moreover there was very little discussion or reason behind why Rafay was chosen.. We did get lucky and yes that left me sticking out like a sore thumb, but as a townie, I was only trying to avert an action that could have lost the game for the town, specially when I thought we still had a good chance that the seer was the active cop role in the game.

While what you said makes perfect sense if there hadnt of been a vote that would of screwed us either way

 

While D3mon's explanation is certainly plausible, I can't think of Cam177 as more suspicious.

 

I'll place my vote and see what happens.

 

Vote: D3mon

i agree with the above statement so Vote: D3mon

Well played KevinH/cam177 (whoever is the werewolf)..

 

It doesn't matter but

 

Vote:cam177

d3mon (2): KevinH, cam177

 

Not Voting (1): d3mon

 

Deadline: Sunday, 14th of October

 

Votes needed to lynch: 2

Votes needed during deadline: 1

d3mon, Vanilla Townie, was lynched

 

WEREWOLVES WIN

 

Role Assignment

 

Winners

Rafay - Werewolf

cam177 - Werewolf

 

Losers

Imran Ehsan - Town Cop

Alternate_Tree - Town Seer

KevinH - Vanilla Townie

Xx Karl xX - Vanilla Townie

d3mon - Vanilla Townie

 

Summary of Events

 

Night 1:

Rafay night killed Imran Ehsan

Alternate_Tree investigated Rafay (Werewolf)

 

Day 1

No Lynch

 

Day 2

Rafay Lynched

 

Night 2

cam177 night killed Xx Karl xX

Alternate_Tree investigated d3mon (Not Werewolf)

 

Day 3

No Lynch

 

Night 3

cam177 night killed Alternate_Tree

Alternate_Tree investigated KevinH (Not Werewolf)

 

Day 4

d3mon Lynched

Werewolves Won

 

Thoughts

1. This setup was created to discourage the strategy called "Follow the Cop" but for some reason you guys still did it. You basically wasted one chance to lynch and hunt for scum.
   
2. There was no actual scum hunting happened throughout the game. Everyone just voted randomly. Mafia is all about scum hunting and analyzing posts.....
   
3. It was a terrible decision to no lynch on Day 3. Everyone hastily voted to end the day. Alternate_Tree already investigated 2/4 people. I think it was about time to come out.
   I think it was possible to lynch cam177 if actual scum hunting was done. For example on day 1, both Rafay and cam177 tried to confuse town by speculating a ridiculous
   game mechanics even though it's not included in the setup.
    
   I think Alternate_Tree was too optimistic that he will be night killed but it did happen so the town was screwed. Now if Alternate_Tree was not night killed, it's still
   not a sure win for the town. Alternate_Tree should be ready for any counter claims by cam177. So it's not as simple as it looks.
   
4. It was a terrible decision by KevinH to vote immediately d3mon without even waiting for cam177's reaction or post.
   You don't vote immediately when it's LYLO or MYLO
   This game shouldn't devolve to a simple coin toss to determine who to vote. That's why you need to analyze posts and stuff like that.
    
   

Edited October 7, 201214 yr by Kaziocore