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[Rafay]

Hmm next time I'll ask my butcher for fatty meat from cow's belly, will c where that gets me. And y hav we stopped posting in politics forums.

[Shahenshah]

Hmm next time I'll ask my butcher for fatty meat from cow's belly, will c where that gets me. And y hav we stopped posting in politics forums.

let me know the outcome!

[Blade 619]

No reason as far as I can tell!

A good butcher should be willing to give you anything (wthin reason). and if it's an unusual cut it'll probably be cheap.

[Rand0m her0]

I obviosly prefer real bacon, but sometimes streaky isn't too bad!

Streaky bacon is superior to back and side bacon when it's the good sort. Unfortunately it's almost impossible to find good streaky bacon. Most specimens have way to much fat, cut way to thin, plumped with water and "smoked" in the sense they once were in the same room as a guy who knew another guy who had a smoker once... we swear. People then have a habit of cooking it down to the point it's less meat and more pork flavored sawdust and salt and well.

Edited by Rand0m her0, 29 September 2012 - 11:47 PM.

[Schmoo]

Beef Bacon. There appears to be several brands available.



I agree with RH about the overcooked bacon. Sawdust is a great descriptor. In fact, poultry and some fishes are the only meats that should really be "well done".

[Psycogenius]

What is this madness...

Madness???? THIS....IS.... BAAAACONNNNNNN!!!!

[Icewolf]

Hmm next time I'll ask my butcher for fatty meat from cow's belly, will c where that gets me. And y hav we stopped posting in politics forums.

Because there is nothing happening in the real world right now. Seriously. I have to prepare a quick fire debate for Monday and there is nothing.

[Blade 619]

I can't think of a single meat which is best well done unless it's infected.

[jamsoolee]

I can't think of a single meat which is best well done unless it's infected.

^^THIS^^ on so many levels.

[Icewolf]

I can't think of a single meat which is best well done unless it's infected.

I cannot imagine chicken tasting too good. I know we cook it to protect against samonella, but it just feels icky. I can handle most meats raw, but chicken is just urrrrgh.

[Blade 619]

I like my chicken medium to medium well. no harm in a little pink there. Was once served it with the blood still flowing in France... that was a step too far, beef sure.. but the texture of still bloody chicken is just wrong.

[ccabal86]

Agreed. Well done is the only way I eat chicken.

[Icewolf]

For the record, no meat is served with the blood still flowing. All it is is water that has been dyed red by the resisdue in the meat. Given the way animals are slaughtered, and then hung up after slaughter, it would be pretty much impossible for there to be remaining blood.

[ccabal86]

There's always blood left in the capillaries, though most blood is indeed gone.

[Schmoo]

Sad this forum was moved. I don't think it will get as much play in the spam forum. I do understand though, it is spam.

Undercooked chicken may be fine in Europe, but if you have ever seen an American factory farm, you would never eat raw chicken. Chicken farms are the most crowded and unsanitary conditions around. The life of a chicken is much more horrible than a milk fed veal or a fois gras goose could ever imagine. Pigs used to be the dirty animals in America, now it is chicken due to sanitation and overcrowding, and wild game due to the readily available garbage they eat.

[Blade 619]

If it's game most of the blood is probably still there. Also fish aren't bled.

[Icewolf]

Game is hung for quite a long time before being eaten. So the blood will drain out.

As for chicken in Europe, its probably as bad if not worse than the USA. We have banned battery farming so all chickens are barn reared. This does nothing to reduce the number of chicken per square foot. In fact you can tell the condition of our chickens by the fact that many have burns on the backs of their legs which can be seen when they are on display in the supermarket.n This is a sign that they have fallen over and sat on the floor for a while (which shouldn't happen to a healthy bird) as the floor is covered in an alkaline substance to kill germs.

[DevastationStation]

What is this madness...

Madness?!?!? THIS.... IS..... BACON....!

EDIT: I see that this was said already. It doesn't matter. It fits so well, that twice, is twice as nice.

Edited by DevastationStation, 02 October 2012 - 08:16 PM.

[ccabal86]

Chicken farms are indeed horrible places, but the ever-growing demand for food necessitates the industrialization of animal breeding. I don't really know what a good solution would be...

[Rand0m her0]

Chicken farms are indeed horrible places, but the ever-growing demand for food necessitates the industrialization of animal breeding. I don't really know what a good solution would be...

Not really. The worst aspects of factory farms aren't there because it's the only way to produce enough food in the given space, but rather to enable megacorporations to make the most money in the least space and the lowest overhead. Chickens can be farmed at around (relatively) happily at 2500 a hectacre. Thats every chicken in the world in just under 30k square miles. Roughly 0.1% of the habitable area of the earth (Possibly less surface area then I lost by rounding pi.) 55 times the area that would be used in current factory farms (0.8 square feet per bird) but far from undoable.

A general cutting back in meat consumption would help as well. Not as if most of the world doesn't eat WAY too much anyways.


Fun fact:. You can pull together a meal for 3 with a few cups of flour, left over mushrooms, leftover greens, a tin of lentils, 1 orange, a few pantry staples (assorted herbs and spices, olive oil, yeast mayo, etc) and do it in less than an hour.

Edited by Rand0m her0, 03 October 2012 - 01:19 AM.