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[Commander Shepard]

Euclid of Alexandria, on 27 Apr 2013 - 15:33, said:

Commander Shepard's posts and votes seem incoherent. Not sure if he is misguided or scum. In either case a liability to the town if you ask me. Discussing with him is not getting us anywhere imo so I'm likely to just ignore him for the rest of the day. Would love to here from a few others though. I think reign of terror has been awfully silent for instance...

 

You're basing my posts of them being incoherent off the fact Kaz keeps bringing up the same points that I already answered and saying I said things I did not such as not understanding Imran post.

[Commander Shepard]

Kaziocore, on 27 Apr 2013 - 15:27, said:

Okay I'll also ignore the fact that you ignored killgor's vote on Rafay. Okay now you're not tunneling.

 

And unvoting me just because you're bored is not a good reason at all

 

I was hoping for a quicker response and generally conversing with you is like punching myself in the face.

You keep bringing up the same points I answered pages ago, it's ridiculous.

I'm going around in circles with you and it was not expanding much.

 

Unless you have a really strong scum tell later in this day I don't think I would even bother voting you for future posts I may find somewhat suspicious.

That you're just flat ignoring content in posts rehashing out the same stuff.

[Commander Shepard]

Martino, on 27 Apr 2013 - 15:48, said:

Commander Shepard, on 27 Apr 2013 - 09:07, said:

Progression is awfully slow and this day is uneventful.

I suppose Rafay is not all that active, although I think there is less active people.

To be honest I have no idea why people still have their votes on Rafay and others for such a long time with nothing being added, if anything it shows they're not all that active(except the ones that voted people because they were inactive).

Reign of terror,Nerau, killgor are other alternatives and perhaps somewhat better.

 

Unvote

 

Vote Rafay

First you wonder why people still have their vote on Rafay while there are better targets out there. Then you follow that up by voting for Rafay. That does not add up. Besides, I don't think Rafay is all that scummy.

 

unvote

vote Commander Shepard

 

I would hardly say better targets, not even sure what you mean by that.

Other somewhat in actives more deserving of being lynched for being inactive.

I voted Rafay because generally people were lazy the lack of movement on the voting was somewhat disappointment.

The outcome of voting was a boost in activity.

[Commander Shepard]

Kaziocore, on 27 Apr 2013 - 15:25, said:

 If you really think I'm scum then I'm cool with a 1v1.

 

A 1v1?

I'm not even sure what you mean, you want us to vote each other? 

[Imran Ehsan]

We still have a few days to go. We should not be bandwagoning votes on specific people until we have had more posts by the lurkers. The following have been very quite:

 

RoT, Nerau, Xarastier (i notice he will be replaced, lets wait for his replacement before ending this day). Pressure should be put on these people in the form of votes..

[killgor]

i actually want to hear from nerau. don't know why but i'm getting vibes from him.

[Commander Shepard]

killgor, on 27 Apr 2013 - 18:14, said:

i actually want to hear from nerau. don't know why but i'm getting vibes from him.

It's definitely the n.

[KevinH]

Forgive my cynical view, but all I see in the "scum-hunting" is a lot of attempts at misconstruing communication.

 

Nobody knows nothin'.  (Yes, I concede that 2 of the 3 scum know the identity of one other scum.)

 

It seems that Rafay is the most likely candidate for lynch.  If he turns out to be scum, then we might have some information regarding those that tried to sway votes to some other lynch candidate.  If he turns out to be townie, then we'll all say that we gave it our best shot but that the odds were against us.

 

[Euclid of Alexandria]

If Rafay turns scum there could still very well be another scum on his wagon. There are two scum factions after all.

[Rafay]

Why would I turn out scum. I'm not but the 2 ppl I'm suspecting and has a vote on 1 of them clearly have an agenda!!!

[Nerau]

got busy let me read and I will comment shortly

[Lyner]

Imran Ehsan, on 27 Apr 2013 - 16:41, said:

We still have a few days to go. We should not be bandwagoning votes on specific people until we have had more posts by the lurkers. The following have been very quite:

 

RoT, Nerau, Xarastier (i notice he will be replaced, lets wait for his replacement before ending this day). Pressure should be put on these people in the form of votes..

 

Seconded

[Nerau]

Commander Shepard, on 27 Apr 2013 - 09:07, said:

Progression is awfully slow and this day is uneventful.
I suppose Rafay is not all that active, although I think there is less active people.
To be honest I have no idea why people still have their votes on Rafay and others for such a long time with nothing being added, if anything it shows they're not all that active(except the ones that voted people because they were inactive).
Reign of terror,Nerau, killgor are other alternatives and perhaps somewhat better.
 
Unvote
 
Vote Rafay

Rafay has been somewhat active tho his responses seem supcious to me. As does the two quick vote oh him aswell.
 
 

Rafay, on 27 Apr 2013 - 10:56, said:

Well it sems no one has bothered to understand my explanation. I hope you can understand that I'm not scum and that if I'm lynched, tonight the scum will cause major chaos. I only request that I'm inportant to the town. Can't explain that. But plz understand, rethink and re-vote.

Its the way you response that has people including me looking at you. If you truly were what you say you are then we will see what happens.
 
 

Commander Shepard, on 27 Apr 2013 - 12:39, said:

No you're not ok with lynching with him.
You're happy with lynching him, your potential reasons for being happy with lynching him are worrying considering he has shown no real signs of being scum.
 
It does make sense I voted to lynch him for the reasons I described, sometimes, actually all the time there seems to be some communications problem between me and you where you ignore parts of what I say or reply to my posts with something I was not even discussing such as my first vote on KevinH.
I also like how you're backtracking from "happy with lynching him" to "ok with lynching him".
Yeah I don't trust you at all.

While flip flopping as i considering to be suspcious its not like they are going yes no so no trust there will not be. Its about the analying the posts so pick certain parts is usually where it goes. considering someone quick voted right after you concerns me.
 
 

Commander Shepard, on 27 Apr 2013 - 16:21, said:

Martino, on 27 Apr 2013 - 15:48, said:

Commander Shepard, on 27 Apr 2013 - 09:07, said:

Progression is awfully slow and this day is uneventful.
I suppose Rafay is not all that active, although I think there is less active people.
To be honest I have no idea why people still have their votes on Rafay and others for such a long time with nothing being added, if anything it shows they're not all that active(except the ones that voted people because they were inactive).
Reign of terror,Nerau, killgor are other alternatives and perhaps somewhat better.
 
Unvote
 
Vote Rafay

First you wonder why people still have their vote on Rafay while there are better targets out there. Then you follow that up by voting for Rafay. That does not add up. Besides, I don't think Rafay is all that scummy.
 
unvote
vote Commander Shepard

 
I would hardly say better targets, not even sure what you mean by that.
Other somewhat in actives more deserving of being lynched for being inactive.
I voted Rafay because generally people were lazy the lack of movement on the voting was somewhat disappointment.
The outcome of voting was a boost in activity.

Go ahead and vote for me if you think it will help. Me personally don't see the point yes my posting is sporak but is it wise to just jump on something? Its not like we have a lot of options the town can shrink in heartbeat if a lynch isn't the most accurate it can be. you know what i mean? so like i said go ahead, if that is what the town believes do so.

Again works sucks

[killgor]

unvote

 

vote: Euclid

 

 

out of all the reactions i noted thus far i'll be betting my 2 cents on euclid being scum.

[Euclid of Alexandria]

killgor, on 28 Apr 2013 - 10:00, said:

unvote
 
vote: Euclid
 
 
out of all the reactions i noted thus far i'll be betting my 2 cents on euclid being scum.

If you just vote for me without giving me something to respond to then you're not really hunting scum. So, what exactly in my reaction made you say this?

[Kaziocore]

Commander Shepard, on 24 Apr 2013 - 08:39, said:

I don't think the vig should kill the lurkers as they may indeed may not be scum, the chances are they most likely townies.
The vig shoud instead target those who he may think is scum, lurking isn't all that scummy imo.
The voting pattern doesn't give all that clear of a pattern pointing to scum working together.
 
 
I believe the scum would instead be trying to act like a constructive townie and diverting attention carefully away from him and his practices.
Encouraging the vote on lurkers which doesn't say much as we have little info to work with.
Given that the scum may indeed be trying to blend in.
 
 
Unvote
 
Vote: Kaziocore

This is what I'm referring to.

There's a disconnect here because now you said there's nothing wrong with lynching lurkers.

You also suspected because I suggested that the vigilante could also kill the lurkers.

Now what's the difference between vig killing the lurkers and us voting for them when

you said town can be likely be found in lurkers?

 

 Also I'm suspecting killgor too for flip-flopping his votes without stating his reasons

(saying a player is scum or joining a wagon just for the sake of adding drama is not constructive)

[Kaziocore]

Commander Shepard, on 27 Apr 2013 - 15:46, said:

IoA which is basically lloA

Quote

 

 

Information Instead of Analysis (IIoA)

The general form of this tell is "players who speculate about the setup more than they ask for other players' reasoning and/or accuse other players of being scum are probably group scum".

This tell is strongest in games with a single scum faction.

Note: Some players are known for set-up speculation. This is more of a null-tell during Day 1 with those players. (See Vi, Kinetic)

 

Yeah voting him for doing it even before RVS even began is ridiculous.

I question his motivation for quoting what's there and for saying what's obvious to look helpful.

I suspected he did that to get town cred that's why I suspected him.

If you disagree with my observation then there's nothing I could do.

[Commander Shepard]

Kaziocore, on 28 Apr 2013 - 11:18, said:

Commander Shepard, on 27 Apr 2013 - 15:46, said:

IoA which is basically lloA

Quote

 

 

Information Instead of Analysis (IIoA)

The general form of this tell is "players who speculate about the setup more than they ask for other players' reasoning and/or accuse other players of being scum are probably group scum".

This tell is strongest in games with a single scum faction.

Note: Some players are known for set-up speculation. This is more of a null-tell during Day 1 with those players. (See Vi, Kinetic)

 

Yeah voting him for doing it even before RVS even began is ridiculous.

I question his motivation for quoting what's there and for saying what's obvious to look helpful.

I suspected he did that to get town cred that's why I suspected him.

If you disagree with my observation then there's nothing I could do.

 

It was useful to see it again to remind us of what we're facing.

If he done it later, maybe.

And I have no idea had that could ever possibly get the town's cred, it doesn't get my cred and it doesn't get my suspect.

I think your observation was flawed.

[Commander Shepard]

Kaziocore, on 28 Apr 2013 - 11:14, said:

Commander Shepard, on 24 Apr 2013 - 08:39, said:

I don't think the vig should kill the lurkers as they may indeed may not be scum, the chances are they most likely townies.
The vig shoud instead target those who he may think is scum, lurking isn't all that scummy imo.
The voting pattern doesn't give all that clear of a pattern pointing to scum working together.
 
 
I believe the scum would instead be trying to act like a constructive townie and diverting attention carefully away from him and his practices.
Encouraging the vote on lurkers which doesn't say much as we have little info to work with.
Given that the scum may indeed be trying to blend in.
 
 
Unvote
 
Vote: Kaziocore

This is what I'm referring to.

There's a disconnect here because now you said there's nothing wrong with lynching lurkers.

You also suspected because I suggested that the vigilante could also kill the lurkers.

Now what's the difference between vig killing the lurkers and us voting for them when

you said town can be likely be found in lurkers?

 

 Also I'm suspecting killgor too for flip-flopping his votes without stating his reasons

(saying a player is scum or joining a wagon just for the sake of adding drama is not constructive)

 

 

I said what scum could possibly be trying to do, not what you're doing.

 

 

If I said you were doing that then yeah you would have a point, you can tell by the English that I did not say you were doing that.

As I denied that I said you were doing that a few posts later(which I already showed you)

Where did I say there is nothing wrong with lynching lurkers? I said I think voting for inactives is acceptable.

 

I believe you said the Vig should target the lurkers or something like that but I could be wrong.

[Commander Shepard]

Also I said I don't think the Vig should kill lurkers.

I said he should kill people he finds suspicious, which could in fact be a lurker.

But not that he should definitely kill a lurker for the sake of killing a lurker.