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[Iron Helix]

Just a side note, I believe Yates is lying again about being BP, so I hold no value in that as a judgement against Theo.

[Electric Mango]

I concur Iron Helix. Also welcome Montosh.

[Kaziocore]

Votecount 2.11

Chaplain of death (0) -
Electric Mango (0) -
Imran Ehsan (2) - Lyner, Iron Helix
Iron Helix (0) -
iSocialism (0) -
killgor (0) -
Lyner (0) -
Montosh (0) -
Robert2424 (0) -
Theophilos (1) - Imran Ehsan
Yates (2) - Theophilos, Electric Mango

Not Voting (6) - Chaplain of death, iSocialism, killgor, Montosh, Robert2424, Yates

With 11 alive, it takes 6 to lynch.
Imran Ehsan and Yates are the current wagon leaders at L-4
Deadline is Monday, December 16th, 2013 @ 12:45 EDT

[Yates]

But really, your only GAINING INFO ON TOWN. MEANING THE ANTI TOWN ARE GETTING AN ADVANTAGE ON HOW YOU PLAY.

You are assuming a lot right now. I'm going to go out on a limb and say that at least 1 of EM, Theo, and/or Montosh is scum.

 

You've most likely outed our doc (as I don't see how he's not at this point).

Really?  All a scum has to do is claim doc and you're satisfied?  I just gave you 4 reasons to at least question it above.

 

If anybody else comes across as anti Yates you gonna start making a case against them? Your pretty much OMGUSing now.

Not really. I look for motivation. When someone says something like "My vote stands out of spite" or "I don't care if you are Town" when they vote, I'm going to check into it. My case on you is clearly based in logic and current game information. And, frankly, you haven't adequately addressed any of my concerns, instead choosing to create a straw man.

 

Yes, there were times were not all of the anti were on the wagon. Although, there are times, where all anti were on also.

Can you link me to the last game on this site where all of the scum were on the day 1 mislynch? I'd be willing to drop the argument if you can prove that happens on this site.

 

Also, why you assuming there only 3 scum? How would you know that Info if it were to a be true?

I'm assuming there are *at least* 3. But for the math required above? 3 is good enough. I'm also assuming we have an SK. *shrug* It's setup spec.

[Lyner]

Welcome and have fun reading those 22 pages, Montosh 

[Electric Mango]

I'm voting for CoD. He hasn't really stood out one way or another and did not make it on my townie list.

[b] Unvote Yates
Vote Chaplain of Death [b/]

[Electric Mango]

Unvote Yates
Vote Chaplain of Death

Playing on your phone sucks

[Yates]

Just a side note, I believe Yates is lying again about being BP...

I concur Iron Helix.

Then I guess I'll just come out and say it; I don't need any protection tonight if there are any protective roles out there.

Happy? You don't challenege a BP claim during the day. You let it resolve itself at night. Maybe I'm a 1-Shot tracker and I'm trying to draw the NK? Maybe I'm really a JOAT and have something else up my sleeve? Maybe I'm a bomb and just got lucky on my guesses? Or maybe I'm just BP like I said. Regardless of the reason, there's no point discussing it during the day.

[Yates]

Last post before bed...

I'm voting for CoD. He hasn't really stood out one way or another and did not make it on my townie list.

What do you make of my theory that there is at least 1 scumm OFF the Kevin wagon?

[Electric Mango]

O fo sho. There is no way 3 scum voted Kevin. I'm guessing 1, Sk not included. Usually the scum can let the town do their own lynching without getting unnecessarily involved.

[Yates]

O fo sho. There is no way 3 scum voted Kevin. I'm guessing 1, Sk not included. Usually the scum can let the town do their own lynching without getting unnecessarily involved.

I agree.  100%.  Since there are only 3 names off the wagon; Robert, iSoc, and Montosh [nee Muted Faith] which do you feel is most likely to be scum?

 

Also, SK is almost certainly ON the wagon so they don't stand out.  But that's just a guess.  And we don't SK hunt.

[Electric Mango]

Robert and iSoc. You say Muted Montosh neighborized you and that is usually a townie role.

Also if you look at the KevinH lynch and eliminate everyone I believe are town that leaves just Imran and Chaplain of Death. Imran placed the 2nd to last vote on Kevin and CoD placed the 1st. That makes CoD more suspicious in my book.

[Yates]

Robert and iSoc. You say Muted Montosh neighborized you and that is usually a townie role.

So you and I have narrowed it down to a coin flip, essentially. Why not vote in the kiddie pool?

Also if you look at the KevinH lynch and eliminate everyone I believe are town that leaves just Imran and Chaplain of Death.

My only issue with this tact is that we are definitely being fooled. So at least ONE [likely more] of the people you think are Town are just waiting to kill you. Shoot, Imran and CoD could BOTH be scum. Then again, they could both be VT's. I feel like we have CERTAIN scum in iSoc and/or Robert. So I'd say we let night actions resolve the other two and focus on these two. Sound reasonable?

Also, just to have this out there, don't take for granted that Montosh is Town just because he is a neighborizer. Let his play convince you. As I showed you in an earlier link, I absolutely destroyed Town as a scum neighborizer. So I guess this warning goes for anyone that gets neighborized in the future. Be careful what you say at night. Assume anything you say is going to be shared with scum.

[killgor]

i'd be happy to lynch yates, but i guess we could also go for isoc or robert. if i'd have to chose between them, i'd go for isoc.

[Yates]

i'd be happy to lynch yates...

This hurts my feelings. And has me concerned that you'd be willing to lynch an un-cced investigative role on Day 2.

...but i guess we could also go for isoc or robert. if i'd have to chose between them, i'd go for isoc.

Why iSoc of the two? Simply because "scum Yates" is more interested in lynching Robert?

[Electric Mango]

I don't mind lynching either of those. My vote on CoD doesn't look like its gaining traction anyway.

[Electric Mango]

Unvote CoD
Vote iSocialism

[iSocialism]

As a reminder I voted for the KevinH towards the beginning and removed my vote just before he was voted to be lynch. I removed my vote because I wasn't sold on Kevin being scum. If I was scum, why wouldn't I just have left my vote stand?

[iSocialism]

Yates, since your "lurking" feel free to respond

[Yates]

I don't mind lynching either of those. My vote on CoD doesn't look like its gaining traction anyway.

Might I make my case for Robert over iSoc one more time?

1. Robert was voting for Commander Shepard.
2. Commander Shepard was voting for Robert and was night killed.
3. Commander Shepard advocated lynching the less actives - of which Robert was included - which could indicate that a "lay low" game plan may be in effect by scum.
4. Robert pretends lynching off the wagon makes no sense.
5. Robert pretends Theo is a confirmed Town Doc.
6. Robert was scared of the Kevin "Bomb."

Just some minor points there that lead me towards Robert over iSoc. What am I missing?