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[Yates]

Yates, since your "lurking" feel free to respond

Give me a minute. I'm ISOing you now.

[Yates]

As a reminder I voted for the KevinH towards the beginning and removed my vote just before he was voted to be lynch. I removed my vote because I wasn't sold on Kevin being scum. If I was scum, why wouldn't I just have left my vote stand?

TBF - your first vote on Kevin was a lulzy RVS vote.

Your second vote was on me. It is possible you chose to vote for one of the main drivers of a mislynch [which would have been me or killgor at that point] in an attempt to buy Town credit. Credit you are trying to cash in on right now with this particular question. Credit I believe you may have been trying to cash in on when the tide started turning against me in the early part of the day with this setup:

Yates had a flag from me after his eagerness to vote for KevinH. Now that it turns out the Kevin was a townie, this raise the flag higher.

In other words, it could have been distancing from a mislynch.

I have a question for you; was this a GAME RELATED question? Because it looks like you were going to go in a certain direction then immediately dropped it.

Lyner, how's it going? Did you get much sleep last night?

[Yates]

My vote on CoD doesn't look like its gaining traction anyway.

It's going to be tough to get traction on a lurker with 7 posts - only two of which have any actual content. Ironically, half of his content posts is this one:
 

no but by posting more, and posting meaningful things in those posts rather than just fluff, he is contributing more to the game. He contributes more to the gathering of information which helps the town. However he has done that as scum as well, so long as all he contributes is doubts.

He claims to be busy at work and makes a self-deprecating joke about activity - which is often a flag for me. I expect him to come roaring back with an awesome post today or a lot of pressure tomorrow. I suspect you'll have more support on a CoD lynch on Day 3.

[killgor]

 

This hurts my feelings. And has me concerned that you'd be willing to lynch an un-cced investigative role on Day 2.

 

i don't trust your sudden 180° turn. i'm kind'a the paranoid type of guy

 

Why iSoc of the two? Simply because "scum Yates" is more interested in lynching Robert?

 

nope, i just think that between the 2 of them, robert is more likely to have a monster role. now if the scum have monster roles, my bad. i don't think they do though. also, if their safe claims as detailed as townies have, again, my bad.

[iSocialism]

 

As a reminder I voted for the KevinH towards the beginning and removed my vote just before he was voted to be lynch. I removed my vote because I wasn't sold on Kevin being scum. If I was scum, why wouldn't I just have left my vote stand?

TBF - your first vote on Kevin was a lulzy RVS vote.

Would it seem easy just to leave the vote there and fly under the radar and get a lynch in? My vote for you was because of you going for a lynch on Kevin, in which I didn't believe to be scum. Simple put, voted for Kevin to get some talking going amongst the players, took it off because I did not believe kevin to be scum (which is true), and placed it on you because of your eagerness to lynch Kevin.

 

My talking to Lyner is game related, I didn't push hard because there was attention in the game elsewhere, you know! and everyone too. Lyner won't talk, its how's it been the past mafia games with him, of course the past mafia games he's been scum.

[iSocialism]

COD is  normally is the one talking and causing commotion. It's strange that he is not talking right now, but I feel more like he would talk even if he was scum. He doesn't stick out to me.

[Yates]

My vote for you was because of you going for a lynch on Kevin, in which I didn't believe to be scum. Simple put, voted for Kevin to get some talking going amongst the players, took it off because I did not believe kevin to be scum (which is true), and placed it on you because of your eagerness to lynch Kevin.

I guess this is my point. If you didn't think Kevin was scum, you didn't do very much to discourage the lynch. Also, you never made it clear WHY you didn't think Kevin was scum. There's a reason he was lynched. The biggest contributing factor had to do with a transparent fake claim. Why *wouldn't* you think he was scum after that? And as you can see, you continue to point out that you were right about Kevin being Town as if it's a feather in your cap. Really, it's the opposite.
 

My talking to Lyner is game related, I didn't push hard because there was attention in the game elsewhere, you know!

We have some time now. What did you want to ask Lyner? This may be your only chance since either you or Robert are going to be lynched today. And right now, you are in the fast lane to the gallows.

[Yates]

nope, i just think that between the 2 of them, robert is more likely to have a monster role.

If you are referring to what I *think* you are referring to, those just look like typos. Am I wrong?

[Iron Helix]

Yes those are typos.  He makes the same typos in other posts and on irc.

[killgor]

possible, but i dunno.

[Yates]

possible, but i dunno.

I'm inclined to believe Helix. Plus, I've seen him do it elsewhere.

[iSocialism]

My name is Simon Templar. I am a Super Saint.

 

If I am lynched, the player who makes the hammer vote will also be killed.

 

 

 

Oh no, please don't lynch me.

 

I think to myself:

 

"This L-1 pressure is just too much. What can I do?"

 

"I know, I'll tell them that I'm a townie.  Then surely that will make somebody change their mind."

 

I'm a townie.  There.  Did anybody change their mind?

[iSocialism]

 

My vote for you was because of you going for a lynch on Kevin, in which I didn't believe to be scum. Simple put, voted for Kevin to get some talking going amongst the players, took it off because I did not believe kevin to be scum (which is true), and placed it on you because of your eagerness to lynch Kevin.

I guess this is my point. If you didn't think Kevin was scum, you didn't do very much to discourage the lynch. Also, you never made it clear WHY you didn't think Kevin was scum. There's a reason he was lynched. The biggest contributing factor had to do with a transparent fake claim. Why *wouldn't* you think he was scum after that? And as you can see, you continue to point out that you were right about Kevin being Town as if it's a feather in your cap. Really, it's the opposite.
 

My talking to Lyner is game related, I didn't push hard because there was attention in the game elsewhere, you know!

We have some time now. What did you want to ask Lyner? This may be your only chance since either you or Robert are going to be lynched today. And right now, you are in the fast lane to the gallows.

 

It was a fake claim but wasn't proven until after he was lynch. I had no evidence to support kevin being a townie. You caught my attention more. KevinH was set to be lynch we had more time to talk, but no... You had to have Kevin lynch right then.... If you represent scum then to the hell to the scum, if you represent the town to hell the town goes.

There's always been time to talk,  but whenever someone did you turned it against them, if it wasn't supporting you.

[iSocialism]

And as for Lyner maybe we're scum buddies and I was trying to make it seem like we were not. (Let me steal the spotlight from you)

or maybe I was pretending to be scum buddies with Lyner so you would take him out, even though we were not.

or, maybe I was hoping you guys would think I was pretending to act like scum buddies with lyner and that I wanted you guys to take him out, and then wouldn't think of Lyner as scum, even though we are scum buddies....... wait...

or Maybe I wanted you guys to think that I was hoping you would think that I was trying to make Lyner look like we're scum buddies so you would take him out, even though we are not

Or maybe I was asking Lyner if he had a good night sleep because we stayed up all night watching The Princess Bride, especially our favorite part with Westley, Vizzini and the poisoned cup(s).

[Yates]

Or maybe I was asking Lyner if he had a good night sleep because we stayed up all night watching The Princess Bride, especially our favorite part with Westley, Vizzini and the poisoned cup(s).

So you do not want to follow up on that false start and instead are indicating that your intention was to sow WIFOM?

I'm feeling more and more comfortable with an iSoc lynch over Robert with each evasive post.

[iSocialism]

 

Or maybe I was asking Lyner if he had a good night sleep because we stayed up all night watching The Princess Bride, especially our favorite part with Westley, Vizzini and the poisoned cup(s).

So you do not want to follow up on that false start and instead are indicating that your intention was to sow WIFOM?

I'm feeling more and more comfortable with an iSoc lynch over Robert with each evasive post.

 

double stander much Yates? Vote on knowledge not emotion.... with that being said.... Kaz I believe yates will love to emotionally vote for me.

Yeap, I don't  have the whereabouts about on Lyner, but I didn't say I did... I know someone who did do that though.... just wanted him to say something, he's shy. But now that you brought it back up and I have had my fun with you. I'll answer your question.... P.S. not a false start

[Yates]

It was a fake claim but wasn't proven until after he was lynch. I had no evidence to support kevin being a townie. You caught my attention more.

Except for our own Town role PM's, you mean? [see what I did there? Princess Bride!]

KevinH was set to be lynch we had more time to talk, but no... You had to have Kevin lynch right then...

I will admit that I was afraid people would get cold feet and choose to no lynch since that seems to be common Day 1 play on this site. And Kevin, as I'm sure he will admit postgame, did himself no favors.

Let me ask you this; do you agree with my theory that there is at least 1 scum OFF the Kevin wagon? If so, who do you think the scum is? If not, can you link to a game where ALL of the scum were on a mislynch on Day 1? Thanks.

[Yates]

But now that you brought it back up and I have had my fun with you. I'll answer your question.... P.S. not a false start

Awesome. That's all I can ask. Please proceed with your line of questioning.

[iSocialism]

Your theory is accepted by me. However, your theory of only two are likely to be scum is not.

I fail to see Muted faith being proven townie, and I don't know if Helix was able to fake role claim right off the bat with a mod help (night action). << I admit probably unlikely

So I see more of Muted, Rob, and I being the 3 with the least likely 4th person being off the wagon. We have 4 off the wagon still alive, one is likely scum so 1/4 25% is likely scum. your narrowing down is a 1/2 50% but I believe it be more like 1/3 33% on the wagon you probably have a sk and two scum plus with 4 others 3/7 42% chance of getting an non-townie, and if all three are on there 4/3 or 57%

With scum and a SK that leaves 2 kills for the night, with a miss lynch that could mean 3 dead town members, then day3 the other two (rob or I and Muted) or 1(rob or I) and the least likely former 4th person will be the most likely to be lynch. Mabye that time you will get someone. but then it's 2 more dead townies that day. 3 dead townies the first day plus 2 more the next day and night with a dead scum this could also be vi versa, but that leaves you with this likely scenario on day 4  five people, one sk ~2 scums and 3 townies. Yes there the chance of the SK killing a scum or vi versa. But if not you leave yourself with much more information after some quick lynch from scum hunting. 1sk vs 2 scum vs 3 townies. A lot of the town people are known, so scum will most likely not accidently get the SK.

What I'm pretty much saying in that ^ confusing message is we have until ??Monday?? I believe to gather information and we should use that time instead of going for a probability, if we run out of time... go for the lynch me on Sunday. In the end it's mostly a gut feeling. My feeling 33% likely to get scum on off wagon people vs 42% on getting on wagon people, and since you say we know as town that mean that can take off a person so more like 3/6 50% and no vote on Theo 3/5 60% This is where I'm coming from.. That probably sounds like jibbish. But it makes sense to me

[iSocialism]

Your theory is accepted by me. However, your theory of only two are likely to be scum is not.

I fail to see Muted faith being proven townie, and I don't know if Helix was able to fake role claim right off the bat with a mod help (night action). << I admit probably unlikely

So I see more of Muted, Rob, and I being the 3 with the least likely 4th person being off the wagon. We have 4 off the wagon still alive, one is likely scum so 1/4 25% is likely scum. your narrowing down is a 1/2 50% but I believe it be more like 1/3 33% on the wagon you probably have a sk and two scum plus with 4 others 3/7 42% chance of getting an non-townie, and if all three are on there 4/3 or 57%

With scum and a SK that leaves 2 kills for the night, with a miss lynch that could mean 3 dead town members, then day3 the other two (rob or I and Muted) or 1(rob or I) and the least likely former 4th person will be the most likely to be lynch. Mabye that time you will get someone. but then it's 2 more dead townies that day. 3 dead townies the first day plus 2 more the next day and night with a dead scum this could also be vi versa, but that leaves you with this likely scenario on day 4  five people, one sk ~2 scums and 3 townies. Yes there the chance of the SK killing a scum or vi versa. But if not you leave yourself with much more information after some quick lynch from scum hunting. 1sk vs 2 scum vs 3 townies. A lot of the town people are known, so scum will most likely not accidently get the SK.

What I'm pretty much saying in that ^ confusing message is we have until ??Monday?? I believe to gather information and we should use that time instead of going for a probability, if we run out of time... go for the lynch me on Sunday. In the end it's mostly a gut feeling. My feeling 33% likely to get scum on off wagon people vs 42% on getting on wagon people, and since you say we know as town that mean that can take off a person so more like 3/6 50% and no vote on Theo 3/5 60% This is where I'm coming from.. That probably sounds like jibbish. But it makes sense to me

Corrections 4/7 = 57% not 4/3

and on day 4 leaves you with not much new infromation