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[Icewolf]

I'm now mocking you... for having the misfortune to have a mental disability. I can't say it any more clear. I don't give a shit who the nominee is. It can be Marco Rubio, it can be Ted Cruz, it can be Donald Trump, Sarah Palin... hell we can dig up Ronnie... or Abe... I don't care which Republican I vote for... I will never, ever, not on my last dying breath, for any reason whatsoever... ever vote for a Democrat. Understand now? Do you get it? If not, I can't help you. I give up.

You stated not one page ago that you were switching support from Cruz to Trump in the Republican race for nomination. As far as I am aware there are no Democrats in that race. So the question is why Trump over Cruz as a desired nominee?

[Shahenshah]

Lys, why is there no legal case against Hillary? Can a citizen not sue her for violating her oath or NDA in a public office? Isn't there some sort of law, it must be, what is everyone waiting for? I suppose, politically it would be better for Republicans to sue her after and if she's selected the nominee? Is that the plan here? I'm just a tad bit surprised. (Straight questions, no trolling)

[Lysistrata]

We never asked you to vote Democrat, we are wondering why you are voting Republican.

 

Wich thusfar comes down to "they aren't democrats", which is a flimsly reason at best, a dangerous thinking-pattern at worst.

I'm exhausted with this. You haven't been reading if you don't know why I will never vote Democrat. You guys seem to believe that I should not vote for Trump because I don't believe he's the best guy for the job. McCain and Romney were not either. I have told you all before that he may not be the one we want, but he may be the one we need. I will follow where the majority goes, and support the nominee. Is he a flawed candidate? You're damn right he is. They all are, in one way or another.

[Lysistrata]

Lys, why is there no legal case against Hillary? Can a citizen not sue her for violating her oath or NDA in a public office? Isn't there some sort of law, it must be, what is everyone waiting for? I suppose, politically it would be better for Republicans to sue her after and if she's selected the nominee? Is that the plan here? I'm just a tad bit surprised. (Straight questions, no trolling)

I don't think a citizen can bring suit for this. They do not hold the evidence, personal injury, and they may not be able to hold standing. It's a broken agreement of a Federal officer with the US Government. There are about 100 FBI agents investigating Hillary Clinton. From my understanding, she had a private server in her house, she spread classified information through unsecured channels, and she is now being investigated for using the State Department for personal gain... in other words, she did favors for people all over the world for Billy's large speaking fees, and donations to their slush fund... oh sorry... I mean foundation.

 

She's in big trouble, and when the FBI brings their recommendation to Loretta Lynch... all eyes will be on what she does. If she refuses to indict, the FBI will go nuts. You will see resignations and leaked information all over the place. I think Hillary is dead in the water. She can still run if she's under indictment, but man what fun that would be.

[onbekende]

So its a case of plague or cholera? Seeing as principled as you like to be viewed, why vote for either then?

 

Or are we just right back at "it isn't a democrat" >_>

[Lysistrata]

So its a case of plague or cholera? Seeing as principled as you like to be viewed, why vote for either then?

 

Or are we just right back at "it isn't a democrat" >_>

Now you are just trolling me, or simply refuse to accept my answers.

 

Funny I mentioned Sarah Palin earlier. She was on my mind because Trump had a big announcement today, and everyone expected an endorsement from Sarah... and that's what it is. It may help him in Iowa, but she does not carry the weight she used to. She's big with the Tea Party folks, but it won't help him in the general election. It may even hurt him with his very important crossover appeal, because she's a punchline with Democrats. We shall see.

[Shahenshah]

Lys, why is there no legal case against Hillary? Can a citizen not sue her for violating her oath or NDA in a public office? Isn't there some sort of law, it must be, what is everyone waiting for? I suppose, politically it would be better for Republicans to sue her after and if she's selected the nominee? Is that the plan here? I'm just a tad bit surprised. (Straight questions, no trolling)

I don't think a citizen can bring suit for this. They do not hold the evidence, personal injury, and they may not be able to hold standing. It's a broken agreement of a Federal officer with the US Government. There are about 100 FBI agents investigating Hillary Clinton. From my understanding, she had a private server in her house, she spread classified information through unsecured channels, and she is now being investigated for using the State Department for personal gain... in other words, she did favors for people all over the world for Billy's large speaking fees, and donations to their slush fund... oh sorry... I mean foundation.

She's in big trouble, and when the FBI brings their recommendation to Loretta Lynch... all eyes will be on what she does. If she refuses to indict, the FBI will go nuts. You will see resignations and leaked information all over the place. I think Hillary is dead in the water. She can still run if she's under indictment, but man what fun that would be.

Is there an expected timeline on this?

Also Iowa gov defacto just backed Trump, does that kill Cruz?

[Lysistrata]

Is there an expected timeline on this? Also Iowa gov defacto just backed Trump, does that kill Cruz?

Timeline? The short answer is no. The FBI can sit on it, but they are not. I have heard from very reliable sources that something will come down in about 60-90 days, and that was about 2 weeks ago. When they expanded the investigation into the Clinton Foundation, this tells me they already have a case and found much more. For Clinton not to be indicted for grossly mishandling classified information... they would have to carve out the law so it doesn't apply to her, but applies to everyone else. That's where you get the phrase, "Too big to jail". Like she is somehow immune to the law because of who she is. This can't happen.

 

Iowa Governor comes out and trashes Cruz... no it doesn't kill Cruz, but it doesn't help him. Iowa grows a lot of corn. I would love for all that corn to be used to feed people, but more and more of it is used for ethanol as an additive to gasoline in an effort to make Progressives feel like they are doing something good for the environment. In reality, it just drives costs up, and it burns more energy to make than it's supposed to save, but Iowa is getting rich off it, and the Governors son is an ethanol lobbyist, so there is something behind it.

 

There are a lot of Christians in Iowa, and I believe they will stick with Cruz. It's still up in the air about how Trump's popularity will translate into caucus support. It's really important, because Trump is set to win New Hampshire and South Carolina already, and most everyone knows that if Trump wins Iowa first... there is really no way to stop him from winning the nomination. So if you hate Donald Trump, you really want him to lose Iowa.

[onbekende]

 

So its a case of plague or cholera? Seeing as principled as you like to be viewed, why vote for either then?
 
Or are we just right back at "it isn't a democrat" >_>

Now you are just trolling me, or simply refuse to accept my answers.

 

I just keep wondering why you show to be a man who holds integrity and rightousness in high esteem yet your thought process for chosing the person who will lead your nation is "(s)he isn't a democrat".
 
Thusfar it boils down to you chosing the "pick of the week" from the 1 flavour you don't hate. Hence my "plague vs cholera" remark.
 
My rational for chosing my representation (on any level) starts from what said person would do, not how said persn would screw over the person I don't like.

[Rafay]

So Trump got endorsed by Palin. Good or Bad? Thoughts.

 

I don't think it was a wise move by Trump considering that Palin's son just got arrested for DUI and waving weapons at Police.

[Lysistrata]

So Trump got endorsed by Palin. Good or Bad? Thoughts.

 

I don't think it was a wise move by Trump considering that Palin's son just got arrested for DUI and waving weapons at Police.

I heard it was domestic, the waving was to his wife. Oh well, all families have problems... the solution is to marry the right person.

 

The Palin endorsement is good for Iowa and the primaries, bad for the general. So I think you will see less of Palin after he wins the nomination. Yes you read that right... everyone is going through the acceptance stage, that Trump will most likely win the nomination.

 

His VP choice will be extremely important. Some say Kasich, for his influence in Ohio, but Kasich has been very harsh on Trump, and I don't think they like each other at all. I think Cruz burned the bridge... so Rubio is the smart move. He has influence in Florida, he's Cuban and carries weight with Hispanics, and young people like him.

 

I will go into the Nevada Caucus on February 23, and support the front-runner as best I can. Trump is big in Las Vegas because of his friendship with Steve Wynn, his never ending support for our city, and our gambling industry. So I believe Trump will carry Nevada with little in the way.

 

February will tell us everything we need to know.

[Rafay]

Rand Paul seems like a good choice too, to appease the moderates. He seems to be the voice of reason.

[Lysistrata]

Rand Paul seems like a good choice too, to appease the moderates. He seems to be the voice of reason.

Trump is a moderate, he needs to appease the Conservatives... hence the Palin endorsement. They are coming out like a swarm, with their heads exploding in a vain attempt to kill his poll domination. Trump has a hard stance on a few issues, but his record of support on guns, abortion, and bail outs has been on the other side. I've said this many times... he's not a Conservative, but I think he has enough power to blow up the corrupted and gridlocked pillar of shit we have created in DC. I said earlier... "May God have mercy on our souls"... because when things get blown up like it needs to happen, you just never know where the chips are gonna fall. We may end up Socialists!

[Lysistrata]

Here's some Republican debate news... since this is a Republican debate thread.

 

The Republican National Committee, (RNC), has officailly canceled the NBC February 26 debate in Houston. Not surprised after that CNBC slime show they put on earlier. It was disgusting and only designed to make them all look bad, and the candidates themselves seized control and turned it into a very watchable debate.

 

So it's been rescheduled for February 25, and hosted by the National Review, Telemundo, and Salem Communications.

 

This was a good move.

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/266259-rnc-drops-nbc-as-debate-host

Remember this? Well things have changed.

 

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/01/22/rnc-cuts-debate-ties-with-conservative-magazine-over-anti-trump-issue.html?intcmp=hpbt2

 

The National Review, a Conservative magazine, has published an issue dedicated to the destruction of Donald Trump. The Republican National Committee, (RNC), has summarily uninvited the National Review to host that scheduled debate. I guess it's not appropriate to utterly trash a candidate, and then be a moderator at a debate... duh.

 

My wife sent me this... I think it's a pretty good example of what's going on out there in the real world.

Edited by Lysistrata, 22 January 2016 - 06:04 PM.

[Rafay]

Remember Hitler? He was very energetic, unapologetic, unpoetic, anti-establishment, etc. Oooh and a nationalist too, that didn't turn out well for 1 religious minority and the rest of the world now did it?

 

Trump will be the death of Republican Party. It'll be worse than what happened against FDR. Unless Trump counts on running over Obama's failure and successfully labels Hillary as Obama's successor I personally don't see him winning in the Presidential race. 

 

And today if I were a Republican, I wouldn't know what to answer to the ghost of Lincoln. I mean, that was a true Republican but now its sad that this has become of his dream.  

[Icewolf]

It honestly wouldn't surprise me if Trump also thinks Africa is a country, and that would therefore explain the support from Palin.

[onbekende]

Can you see Africa from Casa di Trump?

[Lysistrata]

It's pretty hard to keep it real when you guys invoke things like Hitler, the destruction of the Republican Party, and somehow believe that the self made multi-billionaire, lacks education... the "ghost of Lincoln"? are you serious? Guys... Abe Lincoln designed the utter destruction of half the country, and was personally responsible for the death of over 600,000 Americans. You can romanticize the man, but what he did was very real. I'm one that believes there was an economic way out of that fight, but we will never know.

 

I mean really guys, if Trump is that bad, he doesn't stand a chance of getting elected... right? You sound like scared radicals, and if he destroys the Republican Party, you will then have something to celebrate.

 

EDIT: I forgot to tell you guys... I can see Trump Tower from my house!

Edited by Lysistrata, 23 January 2016 - 12:07 AM.

[Lysistrata]

Well this is an interesting development. According to the New York Times, our beloved nanny state billionaire Micheal Bloomberg will run as an Independent, if the perfect storm comes to pass. If Republicans nominate Donald Trump or Ted Cruz, and the Democrats nominate Bernie Sanders... he will run for President.

 

Mr. Bloomberg is a New York billionaire that was a Democrat until 2001, became a Republican, and declared Independent in 2007. He's a huge Capitalist with a nasty habit of interfering with how you want to live... because he knows better than you, and it's for your own good. He is big on gun control, loves abortion, and likes to ban all kinds of sugar, fat, and salt from everyone's use.

 

If he enters I believe he splits the Democrat vote in a big way. Republicans will never support him. If elected, we will be looking forward to court battles all the way to the Supreme Court over table salt and 16 oz. Coke. I will be prepared to bring my own shaker when I dine out. This will be fun.

 

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/24/nyregion/bloomberg-sensing-an-opening-revisits-a-potential-white-house-run.html?_r=0

[onbekende]

So basically a rich bastard but from "the other side"?

 

Somehow he makes our point.