136 replies to this topic

[Rafay]

Are you suggesting that the vigilantes should not shoot so that the game goes longer?

 

Yes I'm suggesting that we stick to the time-tested formula of 1 day-1 lynch. 

[Road2Victory]

True now we are basing ourselves on stock? You can't just judge a book by its cover. I am a little bit weary of you Kevin. 

[KevinH]

My scheme is the best chance for the town to win.

 

I initially put everyone alphabetical but upon further review saw that the scum would know whether they would win or not with that ordering.

 

It now seems there are two vocal opponents to that scheme. We have "every man for himself" and "1 day-1 lynch".

 

Both of these plans are sub-optimal and would require more luck to win than my plan.  I'm thinking that the scum would prefer this to my plan.

[Road2Victory]

So who are you saying is scum?

[Nenos]

Lyner (GE) = -0.17%
Electric Mango (Apple) = -0.40%
Road2Victory (Pfizer) = -0.83%
iSocialism (Cisco) = -0.95%
Rafay (Microsoft) = -1.38%
Nenos (Intel) = -1.45%

Source: Yahoo Finance

[KevinH]

I won't go so far as saying I think someone is scum, but if you are against the plan, then you are a misguided townie at the least.

 

Thanks for the update, Nenos!

[Nenos]

 Thanks for the update, Nenos!

Sure thing Kevin

[Electric Mango]

Lyner (GE) = -0.17%
Electric Mango (Apple) = -0.40%
Road2Victory (Pfizer) = -0.83%
iSocialism (Cisco) = -0.95%
Rafay (Microsoft) = -1.38%
Nenos (Intel) = -1.45%

Source: Yahoo Finance

Awesome. Where's Kevin though?

[KevinH]

Awesome. Where's Kevin though?

Another problem is that it includes me as a target.  Either you trust me that I'm a townie or you don't.

 

If you're trusting that I'm townie, there's no point in shooting at me. So of the 6 remaining, 3 are scum and 3 are vigilantes. I need to ponder how this changes the probabilities.
 

[Road2Victory]

So basically you are saying townie and have a plan? But what if inside you are actually mafia and trying to kill everyone on the first round? 

I am just skeptical about you in general, not the plan. 

[Kaziocore]

Votecount 1.02

Lyner (0) -
KevinH (0) -
Road2Victory (0) -
Electric Mango (0) -
Rafay (0) -
Nenos the Great (0) -
iSocialism (0) -

 

No Lynch (1) - KevinH

Not Voting (6) - Lyner, Road2Victory, Electric Mango, Rafay, Nenos the Great, iSocialism

With 7 alive, it takes 4 to reach majority and 2 to reach half-majority.
No Lynch is the current wagon leader at L-3
Deadline is Thursday, November 19, 2015 @ 22:30 EDT

[iSocialism]

it could be as well that both of you are town and just have different views, or both of you could be scum. A lot of people are already probably going to use their night action. Making this game be really fast. I'm thinking half of the players will be gone by d2.

[Road2Victory]

Oh either way town should win. 

[Lyner]

How about a new plan?
 
One problem with my original plan is that the scum would agree to it if they know that it would provide a win for them or they would argue against it if they know it would provide a loss for them.
 
Another problem is that it includes me as a target.  Either you trust me that I'm a townie or you don't.
 
Finally, rather than alphabetical, I think we should assign targets based on something relatively random, but available to all.  I could assign a stock to each player and then arrange according to the stock performance on a given day.  For example,

Electric Mango = Apple Inc.
iSocialism = Cisco Systems, Inc.
Lyner = General Electric Company
Nenos the Great = Intel Corporation
Rafay = Microsoft Corporation
Road2Victory = Pfizer Inc.

 

Now players will have to agree or disagree with the plan without the scum knowing whether they will win or lose with it.

Make sense?

 

Good thing you brought this up, I was just about to stamp you as the scum misleading the town

 

That said I have not trusted you yet, and including you to the stocklist would be safer for town IMO   

[KevinH]

Fair enough.

 

KevinH = JPMorgan Chase & Co.

 

I think we should get agreement with the plan before we recalculate. It doesn't quite work if everyone doesn't participate.

[Electric Mango]

I'm in.

/cocks gun

[Nenos]

Lyner (GE) = +1.24%
KevinH (JPM-Chase) = +0.43%
Road2Victory (Pfizer) = +0.42%
Nenos (Intel) = -0.42%
iSocialism (Cisco) = -0.71%
Rafay (Microsoft) = -1.20%
Electric Mango (Apple) = -3.15%

Source: Yahoo Finance

[iSocialism]

I prefer the random night action assignment, over the non-random. I just think we need more input for the other guys.

[KevinH]

I think we need to have agreement to go with the plan and then set the order after the agreement is made.

 

Alternatively, if we are not going with the plan, then we should at least discuss whom would make good targets..

 

This will give us some information to use tomorrow.  Otherwise, it will be the same situation tomorrow but with a few less players.

 

We need to be cautious, though.  If the scum know which townies are going to be killed by vigilante fire, they can use their kill on somebody else.

[Road2Victory]

So shall we make a vote ?