The Force Awakens
 
Only the following roles may exist in this game:

Vanilla Townie, Bodyguard, Commuter, Sane Cop, Rolecop, Vanilla Cop, Flavor Cop, Doctor, Friendly Neighbor, Follower, Gunsmith, Innocent Child, Jack of All Trades, Jailkeeper, Mafia Goon, Mafia Encryptor, Mafia Godfather, Mafia Ninja, Mafia Strongman, Mafia Traitor, Mason, Miller, Motion Detector, Neapolitan, Neighbor, Neighborizer, Roleblocker, Rolestopper, Serial Killer, Tracker, Universal Backup, Vigilante, Voyeur, Watcher

The following modifiers may also exist in this game:

Ascetic, Backup (with or without primary role present), Bulletproof, Enabler (with or without primary role present), Even/Odd Night, Macho, Neighbor, Non-Consecutive Night, Weak, X-Shot

 
Character names have been assigned such that townies have good-guy names from the Star Wars universe and scum have bad-guy names. Roles do not correlate with the Star Wars names (Yoda would not necessarily be the most powerful).
 

You are Snap Wexley, a Vanilla Townie. Your power is in your vote. You win when the Town controls the game.

 
Players:

Commander Shepard Finster Baby
Electric Mango
Fox Fire
Imran Ehsan
iSocialism
Kaziocore Shahenshah
Lyner
Mandarijn
Perez
Rafay
Road2Victory ccabal86
Robert2424
Rusken
Samus
The Warrior
Yehom

• During the Day phase, each player may speak and vote inthread.
• If a player receives the majority of the available votes during the Day, they are lynched.
• At deadline, a player with half-majority will be lynched.
• You may vote No Lynch.
• After the Day, the game goes to Night.
• The game thread is closed during the Night. The Mafia may speak to each other at Night.
• All Active Roles may submit actions via PM at Night.
• The Mafia can, as a faction, kill one player at Night.
• After the Night, the game goes to Day.
• All dead players (lynched or killed) can no longer participate in the game.
• Basic rules for maintaining the integrity of the game thread are in effect (i.e. players may not quote their Role PMs, nor may they discuss the game outside the game thread unless otherwise permitted, etc.)
• The game is won when only one faction remains in the game, or nothing can prevent the same.
• Mass role-claiming is not allowed, but you may reveal your role if you have something interesting to share.

Game Days will last as many real-life days as there are players alive.
Game Nights will last 48 hours but will include at least one weekday.
 
Fox Fire, Poe Dameron, Ascetic Sane Cop, lynched Day 1
Rusken, Leia Organa, Motion Detector, lynched Day 2
Samus,, Chewbacca, Vanilla Townie Universal Backup who became Ascetic Sane Cop, killed Night 2.
Rafay, R2-D2, 3-shot (ascetic-proof) Rolestopper lynched Day 3
Mandarijn, Admiral Ackbar, Macho Flavor Cop, killed Night 3.
Robert2424, BB-8, Odd Night Tracker, killed Night 3.
Perez, Maz Kanata, Voyeur, lynched Day 4.
Ccabal86, Luke Skywalker, Non-Consecutive Night Watcher, lynched Day 5.
Yehom, Ello Asty, Bodyguard, killed Night 5.

 

Crap, I missed it.

 

I hope R2V didn't watch Samus last night

@Lyner - I'm confused about this. Aren't we hoping that R2V can provide us with the list of people that targeted Samus? At least then we are guaranteed to at least have one name in front of us (even if we have to sort that person out of the list of people that targeted Samus).

 

 

Samus is Ascetic so any actions targeting him (except "kills") would be blocked, watching him would result on nothing

 

 

 

 

 

 

Samus, you fool!!!

 

For example, an Ascetic Cop cannot be Roleblocked, but also cannot be protected by a Doctor.

http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Ascetic

So basically if he was slotted for night kill there was no way to stop that?

 

The way I understand it: yes. And the Mafia knew this apparantly and most townies didn't.

 

So Lyner spotted this after the fact   (he's town) and I suppose an experienced player like EM would've spotted this as well. (or another experienced player) TW knew it seems, so maybe he spotted it and told the rest of his scum friends, but I doubt it as it's his 1st game, but who knows, he's smart.

 

 

Yes I missed it, my bad

 

Also where do you get this information: "Many players went to the first player to place his vote. Unfortunately (for the town), one of those players made a kill." ?

                   

Yeah. I'm unclear how we know several people visited him?

Yeah. I'm unclear how we know several people visited him?

Same here

It's just in Kevin's post:

Leia Organa the townie Motion Detector had been lynched.

Many players went to the first player to place his vote. Unfortunately (for the town), one of those players made a kill.

Samus, Vanilla Townie Universal Backup who became Ascetic Sane Cop, has been killed in the night.

It is now Day 3. With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch or 4 at deadline.
Deadline is Tuesday, February 23, at noon EST.

 

 

It seems everyone (of town at least) has a role, so this:

 

I'll claim even follower. I followed TW. He performed no actions last night.

 

confirms my suspicion of TW even more as we already have 2 odd roles in town, so if he was town he would have a role (even or normal) and would have indeed performed an action... Only 1 member of the Mafia will perform the kill, so the others would be sitting doing nothing.

 

So I'm just going to go for it:

Vote TW

 

 

Besides that I think our 2 lurkers: Rafay and Perez are good candidates of being scum, together with Yehom and EM (and who knows Imran, but I still believe he's pro-town, otherwise he's just playing it very well. )

 

 

And Rafey.

 

 

Why me?

 

And also why aren't we asking the ppl for explanations on their stupid vote on Rusken yesterday....

 

And Rafey.

 

 

Why me?

 

And also why aren't we asking the ppl for explanations on their stupid vote on Rusken yesterday....

 

Because you don't say much, but still are active... + You didn't vote for anyone the previous day.

 

Stupid vote? This also tells me you haven't really been reading what's going on... You just rose another spot on my Mafia list.

Everyone who didn't vote for Rusken is actually more suspicious in my eyes as either they haven't been following what's going on OR they knew more than us...

 

And Rafey.

 

 

Why me?

 

And also why aren't we asking the ppl for explanations on their stupid vote on Rusken yesterday....

 

1. Because you've not contributed at all in putting the pieces together or give input.

2. Because you've been lurking. 

3. The above two actions are not pro-town. Staying silent only and only helps mafia, that is what you have done for majority of the game so far.  

 

I havent played in a while with all those roles and stuff, but I did play basic long back on RnR forums and lurking is considered to be the worst thing you can do as a townie, so. 

Post count (+ my 'certain' townies list):

Robert2424 101 (town)

Samus 74

Road2Victory 73 (town)

Rusken 72

KevinH 65

iSocialism 53

Mandarijn 49 (town)

Imran Ehsan 41

Finster Baby 39 (town)

The Warrior 29 (SCUM)

Yehom 27

Electric Mango 25

Shahenshah 24  (town)

Perez 21

Rafay 17

Lyner 13  (town)

Kaziocore 8

Fox Fire 1

Commander Shepard 1

 

 

Post count (+ my 'certain' townies list):

Robert2424 101 (town)

Samus 74

Road2Victory 73 (town)

Rusken 72

KevinH 65

iSocialism 53

Mandarijn 49 (town)

Imran Ehsan 41

Finster Baby 39 (town)

The Warrior 29 (SCUM)

Yehom 27

Electric Mango 25

Shahenshah 24  (town)

Perez 21

Rafay 17

Lyner 13  (town)

Kaziocore 8

Fox Fire 1

Commander Shepard 1

 

 

Imagine if you had forgotten to put (town) ahead of your name, lol. 

 

Good post and puts some things in perspectives, In office, I'll make detailed reply later in the day. 

 

We still have time so I'd not want to rush on any wagon at this stage, given how things turned out with Rusken. We simply cannot afford another similar scenario. I'm still bit lost with some mechanics, so I'll need to recollect and organised thoughts in my head. My tinfoil radar is on over-drive

Q: What side of an Ewok has the most hair?
A: The outside.




Vote Count

Yehom (1): Robert2424,
The Warrior (1): Mandarijn,
Robert2424 (0):
Imran Ehsan (0):
Road2Victory (0):
Electric Mango (0):
Shahenshah (0): 
Perez (0):
Lyner (0):
Rafay (0):
iSocialism (0):
Mandarijn (0):
Finster Baby (0):

No Lynch (0):

Not voting: The Warrior, Lyner, Rafay, Road2Victory, Imran Ehsan, Shahenshah, Electric Mango, Finster Baby, Perez, Yehom, iSocialism,

 
With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch or 4 at deadline.
Deadline is Tuesday, February 23, at noon EST.
 

It's just in Kevin's post:

Leia Organa the townie Motion Detector had been lynched.

 

Many players went to the first player to place his vote. Unfortunately (for the town), one of those players made a kill.

 

Samus, Vanilla Townie Universal Backup who became Ascetic Sane Cop, has been killed in the night.

 

 

Well now after knowing the context it is getting more curious. Correct me if I'm wrong but those sentences could imply that "the one who made a kill" is among the people who voted to lynch Leia   

 

 

It's just in Kevin's post:

 

Leia Organa the townie Motion Detector had been lynched.

 

Many players went to the first player to place his vote. Unfortunately (for the town), one of those players made a kill.

 

Samus, Vanilla Townie Universal Backup who became Ascetic Sane Cop, has been killed in the night.

Well now after knowing the context it is getting more curious. Correct me if I'm wrong but those sentences could imply that "the one who made a kill" is among the people who voted to lynch Leia

Good observation Sir.

 

 

Samus, you fool!!!

 

For example, an Ascetic Cop cannot be Roleblocked, but also cannot be protected by a Doctor.

http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Ascetic

So basically if he was slotted for night kill there was no way to stop that?

 

R2V, is most likely what he says he is. We just need him to come forward. Anyone that had been trying to discredit should be on everyone watch list. Also Imran I'm pretty sure after being on two lynch wagons, you might know exactly what's going on.

Considering a townie rallied the lynch wagon, that's a bad argument. 

 

Imran has given very little input on who he think scum is, like a long list. He more rides the wave of everyone else.

 

 

False. I have posted who I think scum and townie are a lot more than most of the players in this game has: http://ironcentral.org/community/topic/55574-kh-11-the-force-awakens-mafia-day-3/?p=826076

 

Note that I had pegged Rusken to be town at that point. But he really acted scummily after that which made not only me but the majority of the players suspect him as scum.

 

And your other point holds no water. If I was bndwagoning I would have been in the middle or towards the end of the wagons not in the beginning. FF, I was first to vote for. Rusken I was second. Scum would ride on the wagons created by others not be on the forefront. Other ppl wagoned on who I was voting for on that day not the other way around.

 

Anyway, I am more suspicious of those who were not on the Rusken wagon. Rusken was acting extremely scummily and it seems only the scum knew for sure he was townie and held off on jumping on that wagon knowing very well he will get lynched whether they voted for him or not.

Though tw has perplexes me. He hasn't had the same opportunity as yehom to defend himself. Though I don't think yehom has done a very good job in his own defense. Should be interesting what tw has to say after being followed last night or he calls fin a liar.

Tw was reading but didn't respond? Why you lurking tw?

As always, with the claim FB please state your character name.

So is there such a thing as a even/odd mafia team?

You are PZ-4CO, Even Night Follower

I'm still waiting on a character name from FB. Yehom still doesn't seem fishy. I believe you called someone out in a strange way.  I understand the reasoning behind your thinking Robert, but there are possibilities of having a 1-shot something, innocent child, or vigilante. I think you are best to use your energy else where.

 

My town list looks like this.

Robert

Lyner

R2V

iSoc

 

leaving us with this

 

Finster Baby
Electric Mango
Imran Ehsan
Shahenshah
Mandarijn
Perez
Rafay
The Warrior
Yehom

 

9 remaining players. This is where alignment comes in handy. mandy, shah, and FB seem to be agreeing with each other and not really calling each other out. They are mainly against TW. Now we can see who isn't against TW. Not a lot of people are coming to the difference of him, which mean they don't want to have alignment with him.

TW can you give a list of your town vs scummy players?

I'm still waiting on a character name from FB. Yehom still doesn't seem fishy. I believe you called someone out in a strange way.  I understand the reasoning behind your thinking Robert, but there are possibilities of having a 1-shot something, innocent child, or vigilante. I think you are best to use your energy else where.

 

My town list looks like this.

Robert

Lyner

R2V

iSoc

 

leaving us with this

 

Finster Baby

Electric Mango

Imran Ehsan

Shahenshah

Mandarijn

Perez

Rafay

The Warrior

Yehom

 

9 remaining players. This is where alignment comes in handy. mandy, shah, and FB seem to be agreeing with each other and not really calling each other out. They are mainly against TW. Now we can see who isn't against TW. Not a lot of people are coming to the difference of him, which mean they don't want to have alignment with him.

TW can you give a list of your town vs scummy players?

I would have to agree there might be several mafia teams who knows. 

TW and EM seem to be suspicious so does Imran. 

If there was 2 mafia teams we have a kill night 1 most likely.

But if they were odd and even mafia teams? IDK if that is a thing

Tw was reading but didn't respond? Why you lurking tw?

I was called into a meeting this morning and had the forums minimized in my browser.

 

 

 

Well now after knowing the context it is getting more curious. Correct me if I'm wrong but those sentences could imply that "the one who made a kill" is among the people who voted to lynch Leia 

Interesting catch Lyner. This would lead us back to this:

 

 

And also why aren't we asking the ppl for explanations on their stupid vote on Rusken yesterday....

So here is the list of people who voted for Rusken and what we know (or think we know) about them:

 

Samus - Was killed.

Imran -

Mandarijn -

Shahenshah -

Electric Mango -

Finster Baby - Claims to be an even follower.

Perez -

Robert2424 - Claims to be an odd tracker.

 

There are five people in this list that we know nothing about at this point. If Lyner's observation is correct it could mean that one of these people made the kill.

 

There are several people that I am suspicious of at this point:

-Mandarijn still seems to have it out for me and has done very little to make an actual argument why. When challenged on it his response was something like "Only scum would write walls of text." First off, of course I am going to defend myself when facing baseless accusations. Secondly, take a look at any of my Presidential Addresses and you will see that I like walls of text almost as much as Rhizo.

-I am still convinced that at least one of the less active posters in this thread is scum: Rafay, Perez, EM. I have pointed it out several times throughout the discussion and nothing has happened that has changed my mind yet. Their posts are few and far between and haven't contributed much in the way of substance to the discussion.

-I think that at least one and probably two of the people that voted for Rusken are likely to be scum. A couple of those people I have already listed above for other reasons as well: EM and Perez.

 

My list currently looks like this:

Electric Mango - Possible scum

Finster Baby - Unsure at this point

Imran Ehsan - Likely town

iSoc - Likely town

Lyner - Town

Mandarijn - Possible scum, but not convinced yet

Perez - Possible scum

Rafay - Scum

R2V - Likely town, but not convinced yet

Robert - Likely town

Shahenshah - Unsure at this point

The Warrior - Town

Yehom - Possible scum, but not convinced yet

 

 

But if they were odd and even mafia teams? IDK if that is a thing

I've been thinking about this since we learned about the two "odd" roles. I guess that it's possible. Is there any precedent for it? If not, does any game mechanic prevent it from being a thing? Did we ever figure out exactly how many scum are in the game?

My list currently looks like this:

 

Electric Mango - Possible scum

Finster Baby - Unsure at this point

Imran Ehsan - Likely town

iSoc - Likely town

Lyner - Town

Mandarijn - Possible scum, but not convinced yet

Perez - Possible scum

Rafay - Scum

R2V - Likely town, but not convinced yet

Robert - Likely town

Shahenshah - Unsure at this point

The Warrior - Town

Yehom - Possible scum, but not convinced yet

So why do you think Rafay is scum and the others (like Perez and EM) are only possible scum?

 

It's interesting to see a detailed list from someone who I think is scum. I know you're smart, so you've divided your scum buddies nicely.

It seems everyone (of town at least) has a role, so this:

 

I'll claim even follower. I followed TW. He performed no actions last night.

 

confirms my suspicion of TW even more as we already have 2 odd roles in town, so if he was town he would have a role (even or normal) and would have indeed performed an action... Only 1 member of the Mafia will perform the kill, so the others would be sitting doing nothing.

 

So I'm just going to go for it:

Vote TW

What's your explanation of this TW?

I've personally never head of an odd and even mafia separate of each other. But it would help balancing if only one of them could kill every night. It's also a draw back in balancing. I personally wouldn't try it but if anybody could figure out a fair way to do it Kevin might be able to do it.

 

@TW dose fins claim hold weight?

TW, you saw my post, but didn't respond... You need some help from your scum buddies to answer?