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[Lysistrata]

 

This is something that's starting to come out. Brian Pagliano, the guy who set up Hillary Clinton's private server, and took the 5th in front of Congress last year, has been granted immunity from prosecution in exchange for testimony by the Justice Department. Interesting.

I am awaiting him coming out and saying its all a hoax >_>

 

Anyway, thusfar they can only stick a "used government property at home" or something on her no? Seeing as all the "sekritz" were actually backtraced secrets. I can go make your last post a secret and we got the same issue basically

 

Either way makes your CIA look like crap, cause they obviously didn't care

 

This is a pretty good story about it from an organization you can trust. Trust yourself on what you read.

http://thehill.com/policy/cybersecurity/271718-immunity-deal-raises-stakes-in-clinton-email-investigation

[onbekende]

article doesn't say anything new, they are still trying to pin any secret mail on her, which was with the mark secret at the time of receiving, thusfar they couldn't do that.

 

I still believe pinning her down on "trading secrets outside allowed space" (or whatever) won't really stick, or they would have already done so (whats the deal with waiting longer if they could?). They are trying to fish for other possible offences, which can be found offcourse cause the whole setup from the start is kinda idiotic.

 

Thusfar: no secrets were mailed, only some mails were backtracked into "secret" status. Last I heared "all" the mails were released by now no? Either throw her for the dogs immedeatly or expect her to actually in favour on this whole mess cause just lingering on and on with it only shows that they can't find a thing.

[Lysistrata]

The Democrats have 3 states today... Louisiana, Nebraska, and Kansas. I don't see any reason for Hillary Clinton to suddenly fail in her rapid march to the inevitable nomination.

 

Current Delegate Count

 

Hillary Clinton - 1,081

Bernie Sanders - 433

 

Needed to win - 2,383

There are several sources for this scoreboard... all are slightly different. I'll use CNN.

[Sir Robert de Dudley]

The results are in.. Is the momentum shifting for Sanders?

 

Kansas · 33 delegates
Sanders won and has 23 delegates, Clinton has 10
Louisiana · 51 delegates
100% reporting · Clinton won and has 35 delegates, Sanders has 10
Nebraska · 25 delegates
89% reporting · Sanders won and has 14 delegates, Clinton has 10

[Shahenshah]

A question that puzzles me, why does Hillary Clinton have such a strong support from African-Americans as compared to Bernie Sanders?

[Lysistrata]

A question that puzzles me, why does Hillary Clinton have such a strong support from African-Americans as compared to Bernie Sanders?

Blind loyalty to Bill Clinton. Plus Bernie Sanders is a Jew from Vermont, where there are about 3 blacks in the whole state. I avoid talking about these things... I hate it when people get divided up into groups, but it's true... the blacks won't support Bernie.

[Shahenshah]

 

A question that puzzles me, why does Hillary Clinton have such a strong support from African-Americans as compared to Bernie Sanders?

Blind loyalty to Bill Clinton. Plus Bernie Sanders is a Jew from Vermont, where there are about 3 blacks in the whole state. I avoid talking about these things... I hate it when people get divided up into groups, but it's true... the blacks won't support Bernie.

 

Why blind loyalty to Bill Clinton?

[Lysistrata]

 

 

A question that puzzles me, why does Hillary Clinton have such a strong support from African-Americans as compared to Bernie Sanders?

Blind loyalty to Bill Clinton. Plus Bernie Sanders is a Jew from Vermont, where there are about 3 blacks in the whole state. I avoid talking about these things... I hate it when people get divided up into groups, but it's true... the blacks won't support Bernie.

 

Why blind loyalty to Bill Clinton?

 

Don't you know? Bill Clinton was the first black President... yep, I don't understand why they say that either, but it is true.

[Lysistrata]

It would make things real interesting if the super delegates shifted their support to Sanders, but that would be too much fun and drama for the Democrats this time around. I feel sorry for the Bernie people... they are really fighting the good fight, because they all know Hillary is toxic, but it would not be smart to shift the insanity off of the Trump vs. Establishment war that's going on right now with Republicans.

 

I still believe they will give the nomination to Biden come convention time. This summer could end up hitting the history books when both sides turn hard against the party elites. It would be awesome for the country to unite under the single struggle to take control of our future from the political establishment. Trump and Sanders supporters united?... hard to understand how that can happen.

[onbekende]

eeeeeh the black community favours Hillary cause Obama does so, isn't rocket science to work that out...

 

Also, atleast these 2 candidates can smile with eachother instead of against eachother

[Lysistrata]

eeeeeh the black community favours Hillary cause Obama does so, isn't rocket science to work that out...

 

Also, atleast these 2 candidates can smile with eachother instead of against eachother

Barack Obama hates the Clinton's. Don't confuse silence with support. What is Obama concerned about?... his legacy.

[onbekende]

well Clinton went with the "continue Obama's path", offcourse the with the odd sprinkles of personal convictions, but thats why she got the black vote instead of Sanders. Sanders is more fishing along an economical line of people who had it better 10y ago or saw their parents doing better. He is fishing in the lower and falling middle class pool, which doesn't really have major black presence either way you turn it.

 

any president is concerned about legacy, just funny it usually intails university libraries

[Lysistrata]

well Clinton went with the "continue Obama's path", offcourse the with the odd sprinkles of personal convictions, but thats why she got the black vote instead of Sanders. Sanders is more fishing along an economical line of people who had it better 10y ago or saw their parents doing better. He is fishing in the lower and falling middle class pool, which doesn't really have major black presence either way you turn it.

 

any president is concerned about legacy, just funny it usually intails university libraries

The Clintons' have been getting the black vote since Barack Obama was smokin' doobs in high school. Hillary does not get the black support because of Barack Obama. Hillary wants Barack Obama to keep the Justice Department from indicting her for performing all her business as Secretary of State on a private email server setup in her bathroom. Hillary Clinton is Barack Obama's bitch right now, and that's why she is not running against his criminal administration like Bernie Sanders is. She has no choice but to kiss Obama butt until she is elected... or she will be prosecuted under a Republican President.

[Shahenshah]

 

eeeeeh the black community favours Hillary cause Obama does so, isn't rocket science to work that out...

 

Also, atleast these 2 candidates can smile with eachother instead of against eachother

Barack Obama hates the Clinton's. Don't confuse silence with support. What is Obama concerned about?... his legacy.

 

 

Given the bar set by George dubya Bush, you could put one of CN's own OWF trolls in the office and they'd get you a better legacy. 

[onbekende]

 

well Clinton went with the "continue Obama's path", offcourse the with the odd sprinkles of personal convictions, but thats why she got the black vote instead of Sanders. Sanders is more fishing along an economical line of people who had it better 10y ago or saw their parents doing better. He is fishing in the lower and falling middle class pool, which doesn't really have major black presence either way you turn it.

 

any president is concerned about legacy, just funny it usually intails university libraries

The Clintons' have been getting the black vote since Barack Obama was smokin' doobs in high school. Hillary does not get the black support because of Barack Obama. Hillary wants Barack Obama to keep the Justice Department from indicting her for performing all her business as Secretary of State on a private email server setup in her bathroom. Hillary Clinton is Barack Obama's bitch right now, and that's why she is not running against his criminal administration like Bernie Sanders is. She has no choice but to kiss Obama butt until she is elected... or she will be prosecuted under a Republican President.

 

True, but she put herself on the "legacy" track.

 

Haven't seen much railing of Sanders against Obama administration unless on obvious ideology lines (which are mostly moot anyway, strict ideology Sanders gets no votes anyway).

 

And haven't the republicans been trying to prosecute her for the better parth of 4y by now? Seems senate/house commitee's aren't up to scratch Stop seeing complot theories everywhere, just see the backhand deals everyone makes to get into power.

[Lysistrata]

Another fact that was brought to my attention this morning is Hillary Clinton keeps saying over and over again, that she "never sent or received anything marked classified"... she never strays from this exact quote.

 

Hillary Clinton is a lawyer, has been forever, and her husband Bill, was once Attorney General of Arkansas. She knows very well that nothing is ever "marked classified"... they are marked "Confidential", "Secret", or "Top Secret". So, by parsing words, and using this exact phrase, she can technically lie constantly, and most people can be convinced that she did nothing wrong.

 

I'm waiting for someone now to ask the question a little different.

[Lysistrata]

KAPOW!! The award for the most shocking result of this primary season goes to... BERNIE SANDERS!!!

 

*and the crowd goes wild*

 

Yes it happened. Bernie Sanders beat Hillary Clinton in Michigan. All polling had the bitch beating Bernie by 20 points. There are a few important things to note here. I don't really like talking about specific groups of people... I don't believe it helps us all be Americans, but there is no other way to explain it.

 

Hillary has been winning in states that have heavy black populations. Michigan has heavy black population... and she lost. On the other hand, Bernie continues to do well in blue states... those are states that typically vote reliably for Democrats... and Hillary keeps crushing Bernie in red states... those are states that Democrats have very little chance of winning in November. So if Hillary is the eventual nominee, her support is greater in states she can't possibly win... and her support is very weak in states she must win. This all boils down to the fact that Hillary is an awful candidate.

 

Current Delegate Count

 

Hillary Clinton - 1,238

Bernie Sanders - 572

 

Needed to win - 2,383

 

Hillary is still dancing her way to the nomination, but it would be interesting to see if Bernie can continue to win consistently in blue states. If so, we could see a repeat of 2008, where she began losing to Barack Obama so much that the super delegates pulled their pledge from her, and rallied behind Obama. One thing missing... Obama had a dying Kennedy that they rolled out to endorse Obama, that shifted everything to him. Democrats are fresh out of dying Kennedy's.

[onbekende]

It just shows that both sides now have 2 types of candidates:

- continuation of current thinking: Rubio, Kasisch, Clinton

- revolution further down 1 side: Trump, Cruz, Sanders

 

You got more and more people distancing themselfes from a common ground and the people left in the middle are wondering why everyone hates them

[Sir Robert de Dudley]

Yea no Kennedy's but do you think there is anyone in the Democratic party that has any sway and if they throw in their support to Bernie help push him to a win?

 

Just a General question

[Dandy]

The main issue with the Delegate count however is the real staple of her lead (About 400 or so) are super delegates (Which is just a giant lugie in the face of the American Voter) who pledge unsupported votes towards her. Unsupported meaning their vote is based on their personal opinion rather than popular vote. Her's would be more around 800, which is a much less substantial lead over Sanders.

 

It's kinda like running a 100 meter dash in the Olympics, but instead you get to stop part way to the finish line with the "Promise" that you already ran those other meters. However, those meters can decide out of the blue that "Nah, you otta run this because that other guy is looking pretty good in them running shorts".

 

I personally hate politics, but like hell I want someone responsible for something like Bengazi in office, or the piece of corn that is Trump.