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[Lysistrata]

Yea no Kennedy's but do you think there is anyone in the Democratic party that has any sway and if they throw in their support to Bernie help push him to a win?

 

Just a General question

Yes... Barack Obama himself. He is the one with the biggest microphone, the advantage of the bully pulpit, and still commands the respect of the entire party... but he will never endorse Bernie, not when he intends to kill Obamacare in favor of universal Medicare and destroy Wall Street... which is their gravy train. Obama is all about Obama... and he'll support the one who will stay the course he has laid out, and the one who keeps his name on everything.

 

There is Nancy Pelosi, but everyone knows she is bat-shit crazy, and Harry Reid is a scumbag... so not much can help Bernie win. Bernie has done an amazing job with what he has had to work with, and he has earned respect from me... but he should have went with the low hanging fruit of lies, Benghazi, and the damn emails. It might have tipped the scales. Now Trump will score all the big points on them.

 

Welcome Dandy, to our discussions. Hate it or not, it's really cool to have you.

[Dandy]

Much appreciated, though it seems the dem on is not as fun as the republican one amirite? It's all devolved into "Who be aligns with my own thought method on how to do things" rather than who would do the most good for the country.

[TheSphinxOfDarkness]

I'm 90 percent sure that Sanders will win the nomination, and 99 percent sure he will not become president.

[Sir Robert de Dudley]

Huh,, Yea Obama backing would be huge but yea he wont throw his support until the Dems have a nominee and he really hopes it's Clinton. But I read somewhere that Biden gave some praise to Bernie, which my not mean much. But I was thinking since many Democrats wanted him to run anyways. Which i am not sure why he was kinda quite as a VP besides that slip he had few years ago and the past year or so. But again he probably wont do anything to damage his repatriation with Wall St, and other lobbyist groups... but If he does or if he would throw his support to Bernie I think that would just be as huge as Obama himself if not bigger.

[Lysistrata]

Joe Biden is a tool. Barack Obama chose Uncle Joe for VP as an insult to the Clinton's. He's a gaffe machine, ran for President twice in the last several decades, and his picture would be in the dictionary as an image describing what a typical politician would be. His own party makes fun of him every chance they get. He's a spunky version of Harry Reid. Please run Joe!

[Dandy]

Between the two major runners,  will not vote for Hillary, she willing murdered 4 brothers in arms and not only that decided to be as un-Amerian as possible with her shady bullshite. Why she is able to even be on the ballot is beyond me. If we could some how take half of Bernie and half of Trump and merge them, I feel like we could actually have a decent president. As it stands, all choices suck, but in the end someone must win. 

 

I vote we hunger games this.

[Sir Robert de Dudley]

Well the thing is if you feel like Bernie goes to far you got to remember running for president is like going to buy a car sometimes you go with a higher bargain then you probably get and you don't just settle on the first offer either. Many may not remember Obama actually ran for Single payer Health Care aka Universal Health care, but the thing was he got blocked a bit and then lost his mojo/ backbone and just settle with the Affordable Care act which does some good but still leaves private issuance in control of too much, also the mandate is just stupid yes everyone should have health insurance but you shouldn't be force into it. What I see is like what some others have brought up is similar to a few European countries is Universal Health Care Bernie's Medicare for all plan but their should be an option to it as if you want you can do private issuance rout which will still be regulated by the rules establish by the Affordable care act or any other Health care acts that are put in place but with in a degree. Now if we do eventually get Universal Health care yea many private insurance will probably not exist but a few may  stay around and offer those who want to pay for it, probably lots of the top rich class.

 

Another idea I have been having but not sure how it would be worked out is if many of Bernie's plans are in place then you should have in option to allocate you taxes to where you want it. like how much % of income tax to be put towards your Social Security vs Health care vs etc similar to how some business with 401k's allow you to do. Again not sure if this would be possible at all and of course our Tax system may be change as well, like the idea of only sales tax.. which I am kinda in between on as not sure how well it would work.

[Shahenshah]

Much appreciated, though it seems the dem on is not as fun as the republican one amirite? 

 

Republican side definitely more fun, all the clowns on the GOP bus. 

[Lysistrata]

Double face palm this one gang. I couldn't believe what I heard, and I had to hit rewind several times to make sure I wasn't hearing things... "we didn't lose a single person". Really? She doesn't lift a finger to help them. Stands in front of their coffins and blames a video for their deaths. Lies directly to the American people. Lies directly to their families. Lies directly to Congress... and that's not good enough... now she wants everyone to believe they never existed. I have never hated a politician as much as I do her.

[The Warrior]

I saw that. At this point I think that she lies so much that she might actually believe this to be true. What an insult to our armed forces.

[Theophilos]

One could argue that lies (shall we call them views particular to each candidates view point instead?) are employed by all sides irrespective of the political colour...

[Lysistrata]

One could argue that lies (shall we call them views particular to each candidates view point instead?) are employed by all sides irrespective of the political colour...

It's awesome to see you here Theo

[ccabal86]

Hey Theo!

[Shahenshah]

Hi Theo, join IRON.

[Theophilos]

 

One could argue that lies (shall we call them views particular to each candidates view point instead?) are employed by all sides irrespective of the political colour...

It's awesome to see you here Theo

 

 

 

Hey Theo!

 

 

Hi Theo, join IRON.

 

 

Hey hey

[Rafay]

Bernie leading by a hair's breadth in Missouri and Illinois exit polls.

 

And welcome back to the forums Theo. Remember me?

[Sir Robert de Dudley]

Yea Hilary is making me mad and I still don't know how she draws in 100k voters well I get the southern states but Illinois, Ohio, and Missouri? well I read that the problem with Ohio might of been cause Kasich got the independents and some democrats which had been going towards Bernie in the states he fares well. The doubt is there that this was the end for him but like he said he is staying in until the convention and California and many of the Northern more liberal states are to come but he would really need to dominate and do better then 50% wins. The only thing is if it doesn't turn out well here on is if Clinton will give him the VP but I don't think that would happen. But I will stay vigilant and continue to push for a Sanders Presidency. Like many have said if he does win America will get it's final debate on it's future Socialism vs Capitalism well short of as Sanders is still capitalistic but with that dash of Socialism in the mix.

[Theophilos]

Bernie leading by a hair's breadth in Missouri and Illinois exit polls.

 

And welcome back to the forums Theo. Remember me?

 

Of course Hey!

[LostAssassin]

Where the updates for this!!

[Lysistrata]

Yeah okay, I'm sorry. Tracking this is pretty pointless. Hillary will win this in a walk, and the only thing that can slow her down, or stop her from claiming the nomination... is indictment by the U.S. Justice Department for the crimes of gross negligence of classified information, espionage, and violation of campaign finance laws. It's the Obama Administration, and they will cover it up.

 

Current Delegate Count

 

Hillary Clinton - 1,639

Bernie Sanders - 859

 

Needed to win - 2,383

 

Bernie is a dead man walking, and will not win the nomination.