I'm sure you're all as excited as I am, probably more than me.

 

So let's use this thread to discuss the season premiere.

 

If you're posting anything spoiler worthy, please don't forget to use the spoilter tags please

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I think theon might try to convince her to go help jon and sansa with the idea that if they help the Starks, then the Starks will help them (same as Blackfish).

 

What im most interested to see is what littlefinger does now since Sansa told him to fuck off. Robin Arryn still thinks they are going off to help Sansa. Does Littlefinger just go back to the vale and plan his next move, or does he show up to the fight anyway, and if so on which side. Always so many questions when it comes to that prick.

the Little Finger & Sansa scene was crazy.. I was getting a little speechless myself lol

 

 

Does Littlefinger just go back to the vale and plan his next move, or does he show up to the fight anyway, and if so on which side. Always so many questions when it comes to that prick.

 

It wouldn't benefit him to stay back and not help Sansa, even though she give him the finger, doesn't mean he wont fight Ramsey. Especially when you consider if he does that means no Northern army would stand in his way to get the iron throne, hell he might even end up getting their support because of it. 

I thought the Bran-Hodor story was butchered up. It was pretty emotional but doesnt make sense. When they hear the dead are coming why do they have to run off to the past and grab control of the young Hodor in the past. Why not stay in the present and take over Hodors mind to "hold the door" and help them escape.

 

Interesting to know that the Children were the culprits who created the Others. Makes sense somewhat.

I thought the Bran-Hodor story was butchered up. It was pretty emotional but doesnt make sense. When they hear the dead are coming why do they have to run off to the past and grab control of the young Hodor in the past. Why not stay in the present and take over Hodors mind to "hold the door" and help them escape.

 

Interesting to know that the Children were the culprits who created the Others. Makes sense somewhat.

I thought he was controlling  Hodor in the present as Hodor was frozen in terror, but that it spilled into the past as well, like a time loop.

 

Does Littlefinger just go back to the vale and plan his next move, or does he show up to the fight anyway, and if so on which side. Always so many questions when it comes to that prick.

 

It wouldn't benefit him to stay back and not help Sansa, even though she give him the finger, doesn't mean he wont fight Ramsey. Especially when you consider if he does that means no Northern army would stand in his way to get the iron throne, hell he might even end up getting their support because of it. 

 

I don't think he wants the iron throne, I think he wants to be the power behind the throne.  He is all about manipulation and strategy, he's the Bobby Fisher of Westeros.  in the first season there is a scene between him and the bald master of whispers (I'm terrible with names!) and he pretty much spells out that he's all about being powerful, but has no desire to be the target sitting on the throne.

the Little Finger & Sansa scene was crazy.. I was getting a little speechless myself lol

Best. Sansa. Scene. Ever.  I hope his scrotum shriveled up in fear that she might just have Brianne remove them for her.

 

Does Littlefinger just go back to the vale and plan his next move, or does he show up to the fight anyway, and if so on which side. Always so many questions when it comes to that prick.

 

It wouldn't benefit him to stay back and not help Sansa, even though she give him the finger, doesn't mean he wont fight Ramsey. Especially when you consider if he does that means no Northern army would stand in his way to get the iron throne, hell he might even end up getting their support because of it. 

 

 

True but he could also sit back and attack whoever wins (just like he said he would between the boltons and Stannis to Cersai). The Northerners don't much care who's on the throne right now so much as they want revenge on the Boltons (and the Frey's), and they want their family members freed.

 

 

I thought the Bran-Hodor story was butchered up. It was pretty emotional but doesnt make sense. When they hear the dead are coming why do they have to run off to the past and grab control of the young Hodor in the past. Why not stay in the present and take over Hodors mind to "hold the door" and help them escape.

 

Interesting to know that the Children were the culprits who created the Others. Makes sense somewhat.

I thought he was controlling  Hodor in the present as Hodor was frozen in terror, but that it spilled into the past as well, like a time loop.

 

Does Littlefinger just go back to the vale and plan his next move, or does he show up to the fight anyway, and if so on which side. Always so many questions when it comes to that prick.

 

It wouldn't benefit him to stay back and not help Sansa, even though she give him the finger, doesn't mean he wont fight Ramsey. Especially when you consider if he does that means no Northern army would stand in his way to get the iron throne, hell he might even end up getting their support because of it. 

 

I don't think he wants the iron throne, I think he wants to be the power behind the throne.  He is all about manipulation and strategy, he's the Bobby Fisher of Westeros.  in the first season there is a scene between him and the bald master of whispers (I'm terrible with names!) and he pretty much spells out that he's all about being powerful, but has no desire to be the target sitting on the throne.

 

 

Littlefinger wants to put Robyn on the throne, because he wants a puppet. He wants all the control without being the target on the throne. 

 

As for why Bran went into the past again, the 3 eyed raven said "its time for you to become me" before they went. I think he was meant to learn much more than he did but they ran out of time.

I thought the Bran-Hodor story was butchered up. It was pretty emotional but doesnt make sense. When they hear the dead are coming why do they have to run off to the past and grab control of the young Hodor in the past. Why not stay in the present and take over Hodors mind to "hold the door" and help them escape.

 

Interesting to know that the Children were the culprits who created the Others. Makes sense somewhat.

I also don't really understand why they still had to go back in the past, but the old man probably still had something important to show Bran. Probably so Hodor would become Hodor and be there at that moment, so he could hold the door and they can get away. Although why can't they just leave earlier?

Baelish had a plan to attack Winterfell after the siege of Stannis, and destroy whoever won... but Stannis lost most of his mercenaries after he burned his own daughter alive. This gave Ramsey an easy victory over Stannis, still holding Winterfell with his army at full strength, and now Umber and Karstark have allied with him. Petyr Baelish does not give up... he improvises. So I fully expect him to stay and wait for another chance... and I don't trust that he gave Sansa the truth about Riverrun. This guy just gets people to do what he wants them to do, for his own benefit. So even if it's true, he may be just wanting to get Blackfish to commit his army, even the odds, and mop up after everyone kills themselves off.

 

 

I also don't really understand why they still had to go back in the past, but the old man probably still had something important to show Bran. Probably so Hodor would become Hodor and be there at that moment, so he could hold the door and they can get away. Although why can't they just leave earlier?

 

Yeah it doesnt make sense. They went back to the past to see Brandon riding off to the war. It wasnt some extremely important part of history that Bran really needed to see before the dead arrived. Thats why I said, they butchered up the story.

So a question has been bugging me.

 

How is Davos so calm around Melissandre when she burned Shireen and led to Stannis' death. I mean he was the only friend Shireen had and was Stannis' hand.

 

Also Petyr Baelish's role has been reduced to a glorified extra this season after it was so hyped up last season that he was the engineer of the war of the 5 kings and actually the architect of all the shit that's been going on so far. 

So a question has been bugging me.

 

How is Davos so calm around Melissandre when she burned Shireen and led to Stannis' death. I mean he was the only friend Shireen had and was Stannis' hand.

He doesn't know they burned her (yet)... He wasn't there and no one has told him.

I wish there was more to white walkers origins. 

So a question has been bugging me.

 

How is Davos so calm around Melissandre when she burned Shireen and led to Stannis' death. I mean he was the only friend Shireen had and was Stannis' hand.

 

Also Petyr Baelish's role has been reduced to a glorified extra this season after it was so hyped up last season that he was the engineer of the war of the 5 kings and actually the architect of all the shit that's been going on so far. 

LF will get his moment when he comes to aid Stark forces against Bolton and turns the tide of the war. They would be Sansa's trump card. 

 

 

How is Davos so calm around Melissandre when she burned Shireen and led to Stannis' death. I mean he was the only friend Shireen had and was Stannis' hand.

 

Once he finds out the witch is going to die. He never liked her or her tactics.  

 

How is Davos so calm around Melissandre when she burned Shireen and led to Stannis' death. I mean he was the only friend Shireen had and was Stannis' hand.

 

Once he finds out the witch is going to die. He never liked her or her tactics.  

 

can't wait lmao

 

How is Davos so calm around Melissandre when she burned Shireen and led to Stannis' death. I mean he was the only friend Shireen had and was Stannis' hand.

 

Once he finds out the witch is going to die. He never liked her or her tactics.  

 

can't wait lmao

I think Melisandre has maybe one more important noble act left in her to try to correct her mistakes before she takes off the collar for good. She's pretty tapped out on her purpose... Brienne already wants her head, and when Davos finds out she burned Shireen... well I think she'll be on her way to the flames herself.

 

 

Brienne already wants her head,

 

I do hope Brienne does the honors. Always hated Melissandre. 

EPISODE 6 STARTS HERE

 

In case anyone missed tonight's episode:

 

fucking tommen

fucking tommen

Margery made him do it. But he does suffer from that all too common condition known as Shit for Brains

Boring episode.

 

But Tommen going all religious. Didnt see that coming.

Many things happened to advance the story.

 

Arya is in trouble... She's not cut out for killing people she doesn't hate. Too bad, because the Jaqen H'ghar character was really cool, but I think this storyline is gonna change. I just hope Arya has a plan, and she has enough training to get herself out of this... because I don't want to see Arya die... that would bum me out completely.

 

Samwell Tarly... knows that sword has a better use up north. I'm glad he decided to not leave Gilly there... his father would have killed her. I think they will be going back to Castle Black.

 

The mystery of Benjen Stark is finally revealed. I have heard about Coldhands in the books, and it was always believed he was Benjen. If Benjen was an ally of the Three-Eyed Raven... maybe he has enough knowledge to help Bran finish what I suppose he needs to do.

 

Tommen is an idiot, and the prophecy of all 3 of Cercei's children dying, needs to take place.

 

Dany has all the power she needs now... she now only has to get them all across the Narrow Sea. Have fun with that. It was the first time I was kinda disappointed in the dragon effects... that scene at the end with Dany's speech didn't work. There is no way they ever would have heard what she was saying, and the Drogon effects looked way too much like something out of a Godzilla movie. Episode 7 is coming.

 

 

Dany has all the power she needs now... she now only has to get them all across the Narrow Sea. Have fun with that. It was the first time I was kinda disappointed in the dragon effects... that scene at the end with Dany's speech didn't work. There is no way they ever would have heard what she was saying, and the Dragon effects looked way too much like something out of a Godzilla movie. Episode 7 is coming.

 

 

She is seriously starting to annoy me. They basically made her a Marry Sue. 

 

 

 

Samwell Tarly... knows that sword has a better use up north. I'm glad he decided to not leave Gilly there... his father would have killed her. I think they will be going back to Castle Black.

 

 

I have mixed feelings about that. Yes I agree with you that he will probably go back, but I would prefer it if he just went South and disappeared only to come back in the time of a dire need with some sort of aid, and no real explanation.

 

 

 

fucking tommen

 

To be fair most boys his age would have trouble saying no to a pretty girl.

 

fucking tommen

 

To be fair most boys his age would have trouble saying no to a pretty girl.

 

my joffrey wouldn't

 

 

fucking tommen

 

To be fair most boys his age would have trouble saying no to a pretty girl.

 

my joffrey wouldn't

 

LMAO!

 

 

She is seriously starting to annoy me. They basically made her a Marry Sue. 

I agree. She's getting a little cocky. What a surprise it would be if soon we find her head crushed like a watermelon by Clegane, just like Oberyn... everyone has a weakness.