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Hillary Clinton vs. Donald Trump


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That looks good on paper but how is he going to do this Lys? You've failed to mention a SINGLE policy for the bigot you're blindly voting for.

Well, in reality, I really don't care about specifics. All I want from a candidate is to know what he wants to do. That will tell me what I need to know. How much of it he is able to actually get done... is his problem, and will obviously be key to his reelection. The only reason you want to know is so you can pick it apart and hammer him with gotcha questions...

So in other words, you're an uninformed bigot. Gotcha. 


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That looks good on paper but how is he going to do this Lys? You've failed to mention a SINGLE policy for the bigot you're blindly voting for.

Well, in reality, I really don't care about specifics. All I want from a candidate is to know what he wants to do. That will tell me what I need to know. How much of it he is able to actually get done... is his problem, and will obviously be key to his reelection. The only reason you want to know is so you can pick it apart and hammer him with gotcha questions...

So in other words, you're an uninformed bigot. Gotcha. 

 

Ouch... that hurts. You were looking for a different answer? Maybe something you can sink your teeth into? Like maybe... "uh... I don't know, I just like Trump!" That answer would justify "uninformed"... but a bigot? Me? I just can't deal with all these negative vibes... I HAVE TO GO FIND MY SAFE SPACE!


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oops... another "And so it begins" moment...

 

Unions are now demanding the AFL-CIO cut ties with "Climate Change" mega-donor Tom Steyer... it appears they are more concerned about feeding their families than global redistribution of wealth. Me thinks they're voting for Trump.

 

http://thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/280066-afl-cio-rift-opens-over-green-mega-donor-tom-steyer


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Oie, discuss idealology like adults. Lys has views, you have views. He's no more bigot than the rest of you. Act like men with a brain and form cohereant and logical arguments. If you want to sink to insults, go take that frustration out on a war, not Lys.

Continue.
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That looks good on paper but how is he going to do this Lys? You've failed to mention a SINGLE policy for the bigot you're blindly voting for.

Well, in reality, I really don't care about specifics. All I want from a candidate is to know what he wants to do. That will tell me what I need to know. How much of it he is able to actually get done... is his problem, and will obviously be key to his reelection. The only reason you want to know is so you can pick it apart and hammer him with gotcha questions...

So in other words, you're an uninformed bigot. Gotcha. 

 

Ouch... that hurts. You were looking for a different answer? Maybe something you can sink your teeth into? Like maybe... "uh... I don't know, I just like Trump!" That answer would justify "uninformed"... but a bigot? Me? I just can't deal with all these negative vibes... I HAVE TO GO FIND MY SAFE SPACE!

 You don't know any of Trump's policies and claim that anyone who has an opposing view is either wrong, a criminal, or hates their country. By definition that makes you both uninformed and a bigot. 

 

Everything I've said thus far has been logical and coherent.

 

Oie, discuss idealology like adults. Lys has views, you have views. He's no more bigot than the rest of you. Act like men with a brain and form cohereant and logical arguments. If you want to sink to insults, go take that frustration out on a war, not Lys.

Continue.

Actually, to be a bigot, one would have to be "intolerant toward those holding different opinions". I am more than willing to hear Lys out. However, if he's going to bash things that I stand for and claim they're wrong then follow up with nonsensical rhetoric, I don't want to hear it. 


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On the contrary. Most if not all you have posted have been purely reactionary. Most of which I see based entirely on emotional responses to things you feel differently about. Most of which attacks Lys instead of counter arguing the information he provides. Is he innocent of doing the same? No.

However, the instant IRON members start personally attacking one another on something as silly and pointless as politics, that's when you need to step back and take a breath.
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In actuality my friend, if I was intolerant of your opinions, I would not entertain you with answers to your questions. I thought you might wish to know what I thought. It appears you are the one that is intolerant of my opinions, since the only opinion you have is that I am intolerant of your opinions. None the less, Dandy is a Dandy and I thank you for sticking up for me, but I have spent a lot of time alone dealing with people that are intolerant of my opinions.

 

Back to my friend here... the simple fact that you are in bed with my dead mother... speaks volumes.


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I don't like either of them. I'm think I'm going to write in Bernie Sanders. Just because. 


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If you're going to write someone in at least write in Rubio..
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If you're going to write someone in at least write in Rubio..

Good choice!


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Ralph Nader 2016

Ralph Nader? The guy was around when I was a kid...

82 might be too old for the job :) but I did appreciate what he did in 2000.


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On the contrary. Most if not all you have posted have been purely reactionary. Most of which I see based entirely on emotional responses to things you feel differently about. Most of which attacks Lys instead of counter arguing the information he provides. Is he innocent of doing the same? No.

However, the instant IRON members start personally attacking one another on something as silly and pointless as politics, that's when you need to step back and take a breath.

I have yet to get a policy with which I can refute. He has given me nothing to go off of other than his ideas rather than those of the candidate he is outspokenly supporting.

 

In actuality my friend, if I was intolerant of your opinions, I would not entertain you with answers to your questions. I thought you might wish to know what I thought. It appears you are the one that is intolerant of my opinions, since the only opinion you have is that I am intolerant of your opinions. None the less, Dandy is a Dandy and I thank you for sticking up for me, but I have spent a lot of time alone dealing with people that are intolerant of my opinions.

 

Back to my friend here... the simple fact that you are in bed with my dead mother... speaks volumes.

How can you say you're not intolerant of my opinions when you've yet to get an opinion of mine? I do wish to know what you think. However, if it is ignorance in the name of ignorance, I want no part in it. 


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And we just hit the 7th consecutive month that is the hottest month since recording history. When will this winstreak end?!

 

 

 

Only certain govs are enjoying the "real market" numbers, some nort-west european nations are giving out bonds with negative interest rates, AND THEY ARE BEING SOLD!

The only one I had heard about was Japan. Hadn't heard how well the bonds were selling, just that Japan now had negative interest rates.

 

 

Alot are near or on negative interest rates. Our gov got the genius idea to restrict the interest rates to a bottom line, 0,01% interest and 0,10% "faithfullness" interest (what you get if money sticks around for X time, usually 1 year). Alot of complaining as they want to follow "the market" and go negative, they are still complaining even as inflation is starting to pick up now. They just don't like the European Central Bank doing -0,40% interest rates to keep the banks from stashing money at the ECB instead of lending it out to consumers and companies :D


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The only difference here is one wags his finger and reads a teleprompter...


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Here's something fun... Donald Trump has released the names of 11 people he would choose from as a Supreme Court appointee. I have never heard of any of these people myself, but I thought for sure Ted Cruz would be on his list... nope.

 

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So a list with GOP heads approved people if I read the rticle right. Thought Trump want gonna destroy the GOP leadership?

 

Also, Trump wants to speak to North Korea? In person? Thought he was gonna nuke that fellow back to the stone age? Where is the vigor in being against any negotiations with "demon states" like Iran, North Korea, ...? Someone teaching him that diplomacy > war? Who is this person? Make him his VP, we would need such a voice of reason!


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His list is a very good move... it shores up the fear about who he would appoint. What I have heard about them so far is all good. It was never a secret that Trump running for the Republican nomination was his first priority. Now that he has that sewn up he will run a different campaign for the election against Hillary Clinton. His VP pick will be very important. I'm the only one that has Rudy Giuliani on any list at all, and he's at the top of my list. Newt Gingrich seems to be the running favorite... he's about the smartest politician on the planet, he would bring together the Republicans, but I don't think he will have broad voter appeal like Rudy would.

 

Hillary's cronies are going hard negative on Trump now, which I think is a huge mistake. It's too early to run a smear campaign, and will be yesterdays news come November. I see someone he would listen to finally told Mitt Romney to shut the fuck up, so I think most of us will come around to realize we really can't have a President Hillary.


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Hillary's cronies are going hard negative on Trump now, which I think is a huge mistake. It's too early to run a smear campaign, and will be yesterdays news come November.

I don't remember this happening during the elections, but some talking head were saying that during Nobama's campaigns, he essentially did the same thing. Got a vision of his opponent to stick in the media and peoples heads before they even really had a chance to start fighting back. Basically, the talking heads were saying that Hilary was taking a page out of his playbook for this.

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