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[Myrrdin Emrys]

I'd suggest that y'all return back to the topic at hand which is Clinton vs Trump rather than debating about whether or not America is the greatest thing ever produced. 

 

This debate was getting to the point. Do continue...

[Lysistrata]

I'd suggest that y'all return back to the topic at hand which is Clinton vs Trump rather than debating about whether or not America is the greatest thing ever produced. 

 

This debate was getting to the point. Do continue...

I agree... some don't like Dinesh D'Souza's description of the situation we find ourselves in, here in the USA, and use my OP to derail the conversation from the utter train wreck called Hillary Clinton. I still have a strong feeling she will never make it to the nomination... this email thing is just too awful to ignore any longer. The Democrats problem is not giving the nomination to Bernie Sanders... who has never been, or run for anything as a Democrat until now.

[DarkFox]

America is the greatest thing ever produced

 

 

Exactly.

[Elendil]

Sorry for getting OT, but the troll bait was irresistible.

 

Back to the election; I think Trump is unstoppable now. A month ago I thought Hilary had it in the bag because of Trump's low appeal to women but he seems to have finessed that one away by drawing attention to the dysfunctional nature of Bill & Hilary & Monica & fill-in-the-blank. Also he is avoiding any crude offensive statements now and sounding much more presidential.

 

There is a possibility Hilary won't even get the nomination. Especially if she is indicted (which she ought to be but probably won't)

 

On a lighter note, I predict the first scandal of the Trump administration will be when he is caught using illegal Mexican labour to build the wall.

[hilowe]

Back to the election; I think Trump is unstoppable now. A month ago I thought Hilary had it in the bag because of Trump's low appeal to women but he seems to have finessed that one away by drawing attention to the dysfunctional nature of Bill & Hilary & Monica & fill-in-the-blank. Also he is avoiding any crude offensive statements now and sounding much more presidential.

Does anyone here follow Scott Adams, the guy that writes the Dilbert comics? He's got a blog over there, where he is looking at the presidential race between Clinton and Trump. He's not taking sides, just analyzing their ads and slogans for persuasive speech. Based on his very small window of looking at it, Trump is blowing Clinton away.
 

On a lighter note, I predict the first scandal of the Trump administration will be when he is caught using illegal Mexican labour to build the wall.

Now that would be just hilarious.

[Lysistrata]

I think Hillary blew her wad yesterday. She arranged a ground breaking speech on foreign policy, that ended up being a very polished, teleprompter delivered, Trump bashing event that played every blistering anti-Trump card in the deck, and had nothing to do with foreign policy. It was a desperate play to win California from Bernie Sanders, and try to make Donald Trump so distasteful that no one will ever think of supporting him ever again. This speech needed to be delivered in late October, and I expected it in late October... she did it in early June. Now anytime she repeats this stuff over the next 5 months, it will only sound like canned crap from her old bag of Trump hate.

 

It will look very bad for her to lose California, and still get the nomination... so this was a desperate attempt to change the inevitable embarrassment of claiming the nomination through buying super-delegates... and it takes a lot to make Hillary Clinton look worse than she already does.

[samudragupta]

At my place, some rightist groups are rallying for trump..he is savior of humanity for them    

have a look at this..

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-36273568

 

[Lysistrata]

Thank you for sharing that

[Lysistrata]

It took 3 years, but they were finally able to pry the list of conservative groups targeted for death by the Obama IRS from the clutches of criminal IRS Commissioner John Koskinen.

 

The list of 426 conservative organizations included 60 groups that contained the word "Tea" in their title... 33 that contained the word "Patriot"... 8 that used the word "Constitution"... and 26 that used the word "Liberty". I wonder what other words that were deemed too dangerous to our national security by the criminal Obama Administration?

 

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/06/06/irs-releases-list-groups-targeted-in-scandal-3-years-later.html?intcmp=hpbt1

[onbekende]

We shall replace them with "Latino", "Hispanic", "Muslim", "Islamic" and other assorted words.

 

- Trump 2016

 

 

 

Anyway, using a ctrl+F for finding a list of groups to screen thruw is stupid indeed, would you therefor also object to them using zipcodes for instance?

[Lysistrata]

We shall replace them with "Latino", "Hispanic", "Muslim", "Islamic" and other assorted words.

 

- Trump 2016

 

 

 

Anyway, using a ctrl+F for finding a list of groups to screen thruw is stupid indeed, would you therefor also object to them using zipcodes for instance?

Donald Trump has nothing to do with the IRS targeting scandal. I'm strongly against any President using the IRS to target their political opponents. The only question I have is why does this mean anything to a Belgian?

[DarkFox]

The only question I have is why does this mean anything to a Belgian?

 

 

The president of the US effects the entire world. So why wouldn't he be concerned?

[Black Rook]

The rest of the world is concerned when racist bigots have a chance of becoming the next American president.

[Lysistrata]

 

The only question I have is why does this mean anything to a Belgian?

 

 

The president of the US effects the entire world. So why wouldn't he be concerned?

 

I brought up the IRS scandal, which happened while Hillary was in the Obama Administration... why would a Belgian be concerned about the Internal Revenue Service? If a Belgian is concerned about the IRS... then a Belgian should be more concerned about hidden and destroyed government property, covering up a criminal operation.

 

Donald Trump is entitled to his opinion about the Mexican Judge ruling on his case. I'm sure if it was a black guy and a white judge we would be hearing the same thing. The only reason it's happening is because he's running for President. So, some customers didn't like the product... this happens all the time... big deal. One thing for certain... Trump is not facing an indictment on espionage charges, like another candidate that comes to mind.

[Black Rook]

A Belgian is perfectly entitled to their opinion, you seem more concerned with villainising other candidates than showing us the merits of Trump.

[Sister Midnight]

I was going to say something in here, but I decided against it because I've noticed that some people cannot have a controversial discussion without attacking or belittling people who disagree with them.  So I will simply to say that Belgium is allied with the USA.  I care about all people in the world, and what happens anywhere effects us all.  So while I won't be inviting Onbekende to help run my beloved USA, I am very interested in his opinion.  I also think that someone who has served IRON for as long as Onbekende deserves respect.

[onbekende]

 

We shall replace them with "Latino", "Hispanic", "Muslim", "Islamic" and other assorted words.

 

- Trump 2016

 

 

 

Anyway, using a ctrl+F for finding a list of groups to screen thruw is stupid indeed, would you therefor also object to them using zipcodes for instance?

Donald Trump has nothing to do with the IRS targeting scandal. I'm strongly against any President using the IRS to target their political opponents. The only question I have is why does this mean anything to a Belgian?

 

 

You might want to make the line "any president" into "any person of opposite party affiliation", you guys just love to screw the guy over with a different membership card. Thou then again so does half our politicians, guess its a occupational handicap

 

As for why they did it, I dunno, "they" (all those groups) kinda popped up like mad at the start of the 21st century, gotta scrutinize the newbies so they don't start off on the wrng footing.

 

 

 

The only question I have is why does this mean anything to a Belgian?

 

 

The president of the US effects the entire world. So why wouldn't he be concerned?

 

I brought up the IRS scandal, which happened while Hillary was in the Obama Administration... why would a Belgian be concerned about the Internal Revenue Service? If a Belgian is concerned about the IRS... then a Belgian should be more concerned about hidden and destroyed government property, covering up a criminal operation.

 

Donald Trump is entitled to his opinion about the Mexican Judge ruling on his case. I'm sure if it was a black guy and a white judge we would be hearing the same thing. The only reason it's happening is because he's running for President. So, some customers didn't like the product... this happens all the time... big deal. One thing for certain... Trump is not facing an indictment on espionage charges, like another candidate that comes to mind.

 

 

I like something like the IRS, usually cause its like the one governmental department that runs smoothly just when you don't want it.

 

Trump is indeed entitled to his opinion, sad part is that it both shows contempt for the american justice system (then again, I hear you guys ELECT your judges, perhaps workethic isn't top on the list of a judge's CV credentionals) and it isn't in good faith if the person running for any high office thinks little about attacking the very society he wants to lead.

 

Then again he wants to "overhaul" the judiciary (darn that word and its spelling) to make it tick for him, I do know a couple fellows in the world who did/are doing the same. None seem very good for their society (but they are excellent for their sockpuppets!).

 

Espionage? Now I know why she was so lavishly invited by Putin, it wasn't cause of her position of foreighn secretary, it was cause she was smooching to them ruskies! Anyway thusfar no mails have been said to be "lost" (as in untraceable), no indication that the mails she did host on that server were even breached (and if breached, could have happended on a internet node anyway) and any mails currently under "confinentional" or higer were done post-date. Funnely enough I did hear about this today, I lol'd Mostly cause its AOL >_>

 

I was going to say something in here, but I decided against it because I've noticed that some people cannot have a controversial discussion without attacking or belittling people who disagree with them.  So I will simply to say that Belgium is allied with the USA.  I care about all people in the world, and what happens anywhere effects us all.  So while I won't be inviting Onbekende to help run my beloved USA, I am very interested in his opinion.  I also think that someone who has served IRON for as long as Onbekende deserves respect.

 

meh I am more doing this for quick quips and fast punches. I don't really do indepth debates cause they take time (and mess with my idea of english spelling/grammar)

 

Don't even think I want to come run the US, mostly cause you guys have to much "weather" in your climate. >_>

 

meh respect, its the internet SM, courtesy is enough, respect one earns

[Sister Midnight]

We shall replace them with "Latino", "Hispanic", "Muslim", "Islamic" and other assorted words.

- Trump 2016



Anyway, using a ctrl+F for finding a list of groups to screen thruw is stupid indeed, would you therefor also object to them using zipcodes for instance?

Donald Trump has nothing to do with the IRS targeting scandal. I'm strongly against any President using the IRS to target their political opponents. The only question I have is why does this mean anything to a Belgian?

You might want to make the line "any president" into "any person of opposite party affiliation", you guys just love to screw the guy over with a different membership card. Thou then again so does half our politicians, guess its a occupational handicap

As for why they did it, I dunno, "they" (all those groups) kinda popped up like mad at the start of the 21st century, gotta scrutinize the newbies so they don't start off on the wrng footing.

The only question I have is why does this mean anything to a Belgian?

The president of the US effects the entire world. So why wouldn't he be concerned?

I brought up the IRS scandal, which happened while Hillary was in the Obama Administration... why would a Belgian be concerned about the Internal Revenue Service? If a Belgian is concerned about the IRS... then a Belgian should be more concerned about hidden and destroyed government property, covering up a criminal operation.

Donald Trump is entitled to his opinion about the Mexican Judge ruling on his case. I'm sure if it was a black guy and a white judge we would be hearing the same thing. The only reason it's happening is because he's running for President. So, some customers didn't like the product... this happens all the time... big deal. One thing for certain... Trump is not facing an indictment on espionage charges, like another candidate that comes to mind.

I like something like the IRS, usually cause its like the one governmental department that runs smoothly just when you don't want it.

Trump is indeed entitled to his opinion, sad part is that it both shows contempt for the american justice system (then again, I hear you guys ELECT your judges, perhaps workethic isn't top on the list of a judge's CV credentionals) and it isn't in good faith if the person running for any high office thinks little about attacking the very society he wants to lead.

Then again he wants to "overhaul" the judiciary (darn that word and its spelling) to make it tick for him, I do know a couple fellows in the world who did/are doing the same. None seem very good for their society (but they are excellent for their sockpuppets!).

Espionage? Now I know why she was so lavishly invited by Putin, it wasn't cause of her position of foreighn secretary, it was cause she was smooching to them ruskies! Anyway thusfar no mails have been said to be "lost" (as in untraceable), no indication that the mails she did host on that server were even breached (and if breached, could have happended on a internet node anyway) and any mails currently under "confinentional" or higer were done post-date. Funnely enough I did hear about this today, I lol'd Mostly cause its AOL >_>

I was going to say something in here, but I decided against it because I've noticed that some people cannot have a controversial discussion without attacking or belittling people who disagree with them. So I will simply to say that Belgium is allied with the USA. I care about all people in the world, and what happens anywhere effects us all. So while I won't be inviting Onbekende to help run my beloved USA, I am very interested in his opinion. I also think that someone who has served IRON for as long as Onbekende deserves respect.

meh I am more doing this for quick quips and fast punches. I don't really do indepth debates cause they take time (and mess with my idea of english spelling/grammar)

Don't even think I want to come run the US, mostly cause you guys have to much "weather" in your climate. >_>

meh respect, its the internet SM, courtesy is enough, respect one earns

Oh no, i would be happy to have you visit, I just wouldn't have you run things. You're right, respect is earned, you have earned mine and after serving IRON for 9+ years, I believe you deserve respect from every single one of us. Yes the Internet is for all kinds, including assholes, I like to think IRON has a better caliber of people than the rest of the world, but maybe that is wishful thinking on my part. I'll take my leave from this thread now, nothing good will come from my participation. Politics and religion, you're unlikely to change anyone's opinion.

Point of clarification, some types of judges are elected, others are appointed by elected officials.

[Lysistrata]

Point of clarification, some types of judges are elected, others are appointed by elected officials.

She is correct. Our District Judges are elected, our Federal Judges are appointed. Curiel is an Obama appointee and the case against Trump is represented by an attorney group that has paid about $650,000 for two speeches from Bill Clinton. The Judge in question, is a member of La Raza Lawyers Association. I believe Trump has enough reason to believe he is not receiving a fair trial on a civil case that the plaintiff was dismissed because she was lying. It's a straight up political hit job. Nice try.

[ccabal86]

 

meh I am more doing this for quick quips and fast punches. I don't really do indepth debates cause they take time (and mess with my idea of english spelling/grammar)

I'm going to quote you on this next time, I hope you know that