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[KevinH]

Okay so basically i'm ze watcher.
N1 tracked Lyner - "Did not target anyone"
N2 tracked King Hitler - "Did not see anything"
 
2 different responses from the same action?

 

Watchers watch.

Trackers track.

Don't confuse the two.

My guess is that the mod was just colloquially saying the same thing.

 

@The Warrior - please confirm
 

[Sister Midnight]

Okay so basically i'm ze watcher.
 
Watched 2 different people and received 2 different responses from both of those I watched.
 
I don't have much time to post, (work is busy af) but basically either Lyner or King Hitler is scum.
 
N1 tracked Lyner - "Did not target anyone"
N2 tracked King Hitler - "Did not see anything"
 
2 different responses from the same action?
 
King Hitler's response makes me really really curious and along with my previous suspicions with him & Lego i'm leaning towards him definitely being Lego's scum buddy.
 
I'll try get online later and post more.. But for now back to work.. and i'll leave you with this:
 
Vote King Hitler

Not clear on why that makes you vote king

[Finster Baby]

I'm trying to get a clarification regarding the answer he got.

[Samus]

A Watcher that learns who a player was targeted by during the night is considered Normal on mafiascum.net. If a Watcher is somehow blocked from their action (by Roleblocker, Jailkeeper, Rolestopper, Ascetic, or Commuter), they should receive a "No Result" pm, rather than a "did not see anything" pm. A Watcher would not see a Ninja committing a kill, however, and would receive a "did not see anything" pm in that case.

 

 

Well well well.

 

 

 

Only the following roles may exist in this game: Vanilla Townie, Bodyguard, Commuter, Cop, Sane Cop, Insane Cop, Day Cop, Role Cop, Vanilla Cop, Flavor Cop, Doctor, Framer, Friendly Neighbor, Follower, Gunsmith, Innocent Child, Jack of All Trades, Jailkeeper, Mafia Goon, Mafia Encryptor, Mafia Godfather, Mafia Ninja, Mafia Strongman, Mafia Traitor, Mason, Miller, Motion Detector, Neapolitan, Neighbor, Neighborizer, Nurse, Roleblocker, Rolestopper, Serial Killer, Tracker, Universal Backup, Vigilante, Voyeur, Watcher

 

 

King Hitler?

 

Okay so basically i'm ze watcher.
N1 tracked Lyner - "Did not target anyone"
N2 tracked King Hitler - "Did not see anything"
 
2 different responses from the same action?

 

Watchers watch.

Trackers track.

Don't confuse the two.

My guess is that the mod was just colloquially saying the same thing.

 

@The Warrior - please confirm
 

 

i'm a tracker.

A Tracker that learns who a player targeted during the night is considered Normal on mafiascum.net. If a Tracker is somehow blocked from their action (by Roleblocker, Jailkeeper, Rolestopper, Ascetic, or Commuter), they should receive a "No Result" pm, rather than a "did not see anything" pm. A Tracker would not see a Ninja committing a kill, however, and would receive a "did not see anything" pm in that case.

From the tracker wiki: http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Tracker

 

I think that really says it all at this point

[Samus]

 

Okay so basically i'm ze watcher.
N1 tracked Lyner - "Did not target anyone"
N2 tracked King Hitler - "Did not see anything"
 
2 different responses from the same action?

 

Watchers watch.

Trackers track.

Don't confuse the two.

My guess is that the mod was just colloquially saying the same thing.

 

@The Warrior - please confirm
 

 

 

Wouldn't The Warrior's confirmation ruin the game, as he basically either says KH is scum or not?

[The Warrior]

Okay so basically i'm ze watcher.
N1 tracked Lyner - "Did not target anyone"
N2 tracked King Hitler - "Did not see anything"
 
2 different responses from the same action?

 
Watchers watch.
Trackers track.
Don't confuse the two.

My guess is that the mod was just colloquially saying the same thing.
 
@The Warrior - please confirm
 

I don't have much time to dive into this atm unfortunately (busy at work) but what Kevin is saying here is correct. The results were meant to be the same. The result to both should have read "Did not see anything". My apologies for the confusion.

[Ali bin Turban]

I should have come home 20 minutes later...wouldn't have waste it on studying mafia wiki.

[Ali bin Turban]

Actually now after TW's comment I see that message Samus got of Lyner ("Did not target anyone") does not make any sense. Samus is a watcher so he couldn't have seen if Lyner targeted anyone or not but rather if he was targeted by someone.

[Ali bin Turban]

Also note to everyone, if there's any confusion confirm your night action findings with TW in private and not in public when you'll need to make a role claim and put yourself in danger.

The one good thing of this is that we may all put Samus from a "very possible townie" into "confirmed townie" box.

[Finster Baby]

Yeah I think this sums up as Samus as town.

Another thing we need to watch out for - If there's a 1-shot Vigilante among the scum, this may be the night he's released, if this holds true to TWs last game.

[KevinH]

i'm a tracker.

A Tracker that learns who a player targeted during the night is considered Normal on mafiascum.net. If a Tracker is somehow blocked from their action (by Roleblocker, Jailkeeper, Rolestopper, Ascetic, or Commuter), they should receive a "No Result" pm, rather than a "did not see anything" pm. A Tracker would not see a Ninja committing a kill, however, and would receive a "did not see anything" pm in that case.

From the tracker wiki: http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Tracker
 
I think that really says it all at this point

 

 

No.

 

The "did not see anything" result is the same as seeing that a Vanilla Townie not do anything.

 

The intent of the text is to show that a Ninja will show investigation like a Vanilla Townie, not that "did not see anything" means definitely Ninja.

 

With all that said, King Hitler could be a Ninja but I doubt it given his vote on Legoboyvdlp.

[KevinH]

First, there was SuperTownieAnalysis^TM
 
Now, I bring you KevinH's SuperDuperTownieAnalysis^TM
 
Categories

• Not voting to lynch on Day 1
• Townieness of posts
• Lynching Legoboyvdlp 
• Getting accused by the desperate Legoboyvdlp
• No action when tracked by Samus
• Being KevinH
• Being Samus
• Being Sister Midnight (formerly categorized as humor)
• Low activity (bad)
• Wolfpacks wagon (bad)

 

Positive Townieness 

• KevinH - didn't vote to lynch Day 1 (+1), fingered in desperation by Legoboyvdlp (+1), very townie (+4)
• Samus - led the lynch on Legoboyvdlp (+2), fingered in desperation by Legoboyvdlp (+1), very townie (+3)
• King Hitler - didn't vote to lynch Day 1 (+1), in on the lynch on Legoboyvdlp (+1), fingered in desperation by Legoboyvdlp (+1), no action when tracked (+1), townieness (+1)
• Sister Midnight - didn't vote to lynch Day 1 (+1), finalized the lynch on Legoboyvdlp (+2), townieness (+1), awesomeness (+1)
• Preston - didn't vote to lynch Day 1 (+1), in on Wolfpacks wagon (-1), townieness (+4)
• Wolfpacks - didn't vote to lynch Day 1 (+1), became alternate wagon to Legoboyvdlp (+1), fingered in desperation by Legoboyvdlp (+1), townieness (+1)
• Finster Baby - didn't vote to lynch Day 1 (+1), in on the lynch on Legoboyvdlp (+1), townieness (+1)
• Lyner - no action when tracked (+1), townieness (+1)

 

Lacking Townieness

• Rafay - low activity (-1)
• Mazuurek - low activity (-1)
• Ali bin Turban - in on Wolfpacks wagon (-1)
• iSocialism - in on Wolfpacks wagon (-1)

 

 

[Wolfpacks]

I don't know what it is but something is niggling in my mind, I think one of the inactives messed up and that is why one of their own died, it's either Rafay or Mazuurek not sure which.

Rafay- still ranks in my mind after what he said, the bluff could be in play. If it is I think he played his hand too early.

Mazuurek also is on my radar because he didn't vote, that could speak volumes with his silence

there are a few who have gone a little silent since day 2, are they sitting back waiting for the mistakes or are they scared of making their own mistakes. Isoc, lyner and KH fit the bill,

[Samus]

there are a few who have gone a little silent since day 2, are they sitting back waiting for the mistakes or are they scared of making their own mistakes. Isoc, lyner and KH fit the bill,

 

KingH has gone total silent, after attempts at leading D2 lynches and complete activity in D2.

 

Is that not suspect enough? All the signs are leading to it and people are ignoring it.

 

Lynch Hitler!

[Wolfpacks]

Saying this but Preston has been a bit quiet as well both he and Isoc were both on my wagon, is their absences a meaning for something else or what I added earlier that they don't want to make a mistake

[Sister Midnight]

Preston has been posting more than King.  I am quite torn because King was early on the Lego bandwagon, but I did get that scummy vibe I described in earlier posts.  Still Maz is looking not so good, either.  Please post more, Maz.  King, if you don't post very soon I will have to jump on you... I mean jump on your bandwagon.

 

FOS: King H

FOS: Maz

[Mazuurek]

Preston has been posting more than King.  I am quite torn because King was early on the Lego bandwagon, but I did get that scummy vibe I described in earlier posts.  Still Maz is looking not so good, either.  Please post more, Maz.  King, if you don't post very soon I will have to jump on you... I mean jump on your bandwagon.

 

FOS: King H

FOS: Maz

but i dont like posting without contributing

[Sister Midnight]

Preston has been posting more than King.  I am quite torn because King was early on the Lego bandwagon, but I did get that scummy vibe I described in earlier posts.  Still Maz is looking not so good, either.  Please post more, Maz.  King, if you don't post very soon I will have to jump on you... I mean jump on your bandwagon.
 
FOS: King H
FOS: Maz

but i dont like posting without contributing

Who do you think is acting scummy? By scummy I mean evading, misdirecting, not making sense in the way they are reasoning things through. Explain what they are doing to make you suspicious. I voted for Lego in large part because he was all over the place, trying to evade questions and trying to start bored join bandwagons without giving reasons that made sense.

I'm discovering my personal style is to be somewhat cautious about calling for a lynch too quickly. This may end up getting me lynched, but I want to understand people before I act. I don't understand you, Maz. Outside the game I think you rock, but in mafia you are hard to read and therefore suspicious to me. I also am somewhat intuitive, and you don't give off a lot of townie vibes, which by default, means you're giving scummy vibes. Participate and draw people out, share your opinions. I know it can be intimidating, especially with this group of people, but you have nothing to lose.

[Finster Baby]

Hmm.

I can see valid points in lynching either KH or Maz.

I'm just torn as to which one is the better call right now.

[SeaBeeGipson]

Oh wow I missed alot. I'm honestly surprised I am not at the end of a wagon from my inactivity.

First, my role claim that Samus requested. Ron Weasley, 1 shot commuter. May be why the results were different, though if my understanding is that the Ninja and VT also pull that result, what role could Lyner have? If VT pulls a different result than normal, we come to the conclusion that Lyner has a role other than VT. Possibly town, possibly scum.

Second, my inactivity. Keep it short and sweet. I'm going through a course of training and let's say the events in Dallas last night have lengthened a few things. Mainly because that's where I live and it all happened right around here.

Third, I feel as Samus is the only true 100% townie in my eyes. He roleclaimed, he led the lynch on Lego. I don't have alot of time at the moment. I just got back and I'll be going again in a few hours. I'd rather spend time with my kid than a back and forth, but at least now I should be able to participate more again.

FoS: mazuurek

Post didn't add much. Any post is contributing really, whether it contributes to you being scum or town is up in the air. But there has been alot of discussion to contribute to.