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[Rhizoctonia]

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Vote: Mazuurek

because of what he didn't do.

• Didn't vote no-lynch Day 1
• Didn't vote Rafay Day 2
• Didn't post very much all game

So he didn't vote for a townie Day 2, and that is bad? Wow

And good job looking to lynch a rather light poster, it did so well for you yesterday.

[Rhizoctonia]

It's one thing to pressure someone for low posting, it's another to put not voting a townie as a reason.

So far all you've done is focus on whose posted the little, not analyze anything, and look to distract everyone with flavor D1. The only thing that is saving you at this point is if we want to believe your RC

For the "if we knew then what we know now" file:
We know now

Madam Pomfrey (Lyner) a Hogwarts Doctor was knocked out on night 2.

but at the end of Day 1

Lyner (3): Rafay, Preston, Chaplain of Death

Preston and Chaplain of Death were trying to lynch someone we now know is townie.

I also like how you skip back to D1 on what we know now, yet do not mention the people on Rafay's lynch yesterday as worthy of anything.

[Samus]

active Let me see how this works, in Samus's view if you are inactive you need to be prodded, well that worked with Rafay didnt it mate,

 

yes prodded and then replaced if still remain inactive.

 

there's no point losing townies because of activity when they can simply be replaced with active players.

[Chaplain of death]

active Let me see how this works, in Samus's view if you are inactive you need to be prodded, well that worked with Rafay didnt it mate, I tend to go on the theory that only half of the scum was on Rafays wagon, as the townies was also involved in lynching Rafay, if KevinH is role claiming and it's true then some may have been on his wagon as well.

Your have to forgive me I'm not into writing long lists on what who done what and who's done this, I read and I listen then I make my mind up which way I'm going to vote, I will interject when I need to.

 

In other words you are lurking, not giving any input except for a sporadic voting record. Its almost like scum tactics 101 this game. We can't get a read on you if you don't give input, and yeah, that can benefit you depending on what your goal is. If you are townie, its counter productive because if we can get a read on you we can write you off the suspect list and narrow down who is scum. If you are scum then it benefits you to stay in the shadow and not contribute anything that could be used to determine that you are scum.

[Canik]

Looking back through D2. Lego voted Rafay at 1st which is a rather safe pick for scum. Then when the Kevin was nearing lynch he switches his vote to Kevin, a much bigger prize which seemed almost a sure thing at that point. Then Kevin roleclaims and Lego switches back to Rafay.

http://ironcentral.org/community/topic/57842-tw-03-harry-potter-and-the-chamber-of-secrets-mafia-day-3/?p=875921
http://ironcentral.org/community/topic/57842-tw-03-harry-potter-and-the-chamber-of-secrets-mafia-day-3/?p=875933
http://ironcentral.org/community/topic/57842-tw-03-harry-potter-and-the-chamber-of-secrets-mafia-day-3/?p=876032

Rafay may not have said much but there is still plenty of info to analyze from the wagons. Though it would have helped had Rafay had posted a lot I admit, allowing his style sure won't encourage that in the future.

I gave Lego the benefit of the doubt yesterday because he reacted to my pressure how I think a VT should react but sometimes I am too quick to let one townie seeming response dispel my suspicion. His scummy voting pattern has me kind of wishing I did push him instead of Rafay. So I will do so now - Vote Lego

Lego is also the best choice because he already has made a claim. If we push for a lynch on someone new, they may be forced to claim like KevinH was and narrow down the remaining PRs for scum even more.

[The Warrior]

"Me, Gilderoy Lockhart, Order of Merlin, Third Class, Honorary Member of the Dark Force Defence League, and five-time winner of Witch Weekly's Most-Charming-Smile Award -- but I don't talk about that. I didn't get rid of the Bandon Banshee by smiling at her!"

 

 

Vote Count

 

1ceCream (2): Rhizoctonia, legoboyvdlp

Ali bin Turban (1): Finster Baby

legoboyvdlp (1): Canik

Mazuurek (1): KevinH

Canik (0):

Chaplain of Death (0):

D34THBR1NG3R (0):

Finster Baby (0):

iSocialism (0):

KevinH (0):

Preston (0):

Rhizoctonia (0):

Samus (0):

Sister Midnight (0):

Wolfpacks (0):

 

No Lynch (0):

Not voting: Ali bin Turban, Chaplain of Death, D34THBR1NG3R, 1ceCream, iSocialism, Mazuurek, Preston, Samus, Sister Midnight, Wolfpacks

 

With 15 alive it takes 8 to lynch or 4 at deadline.
Deadline is 1:00pm CST on Monday, August 29th.

[Ali bin Turban]

Atm I don't even have time to read your post (just skimmed it), not to mention posting anything new.

I'll just post things I was going to publish on D2 but didn't managed due to FB locking me out with his 9th vote that closed that day prematurely:

 

I don't think we'll get anything out of Rafay's wagon right now (to many people jumping in, no counters around). Instead we had 3 interesting bandwagons yesterday that are worth remembering for the future days (especially if Rafay turns scum):

Rafay (7): KevinH, Canik, Lyner, legoboyvdlp, D34THBR1NG3R, Finster Baby, 1ceCream
KevinH (5): Preston, iSocialism, Rhizoctonia, Chaplain of Death, Samus
legoboyvdlp (3): Ali bin Turban, Sister Midnight, Mazuurek

 

Those wagons do not give enough information on their own, but I think we can draw some conclusions about Finster.

 - Assuming he is a scum he'd know by now that he has no business siting on a dominant wagon (suboptimal choice for a scum since he would put himself in jeopardy as victim would inevitably turn out to be a town), especially creating an overflow, especially when there's another townie wagon (KevinH).

 

 - Only exception would be if KevinH is a scum (which is still possible - he could just gamble with his claim, he could be a scum watcher, or if the mafia lacks ninja (and considering the fact they were lucky to take out watcher) he could draw a conclusion there's no tracker around and made relatively safe role claim) and Finster was trying to protect him...however Finster called me out for not voting on KevinH (which was not true but that's irrelevant here)...if he was scum in this situation his call would basically mean "Could you please lynch my scumbuddy and confirm yourself as a town" - I don't think that's likely situation.

 

Due to the above I'm thinking that most probably I was wrong about him and Finster may actually be a townie (and I forgive him his meaningless voting on me).

 

That's almost all from me for today. Just one small note about thing I didn't like:

 

Who benefits from KevinH's claim that Preston didn't do anything last night? Did anyone pressured KevinH to share his findings or are we now helping scums in taking out our PR's (in this case by informing them that Preston is probably a VT...assuming he's town)?

[Mazuurek]

active Let me see how this works, in Samus's view if you are inactive you need to be prodded, well that worked with Rafay didnt it mate, I tend to go on the theory that only half of the scum was on Rafays wagon, as the townies was also involved in lynching Rafay, if KevinH is role claiming and it's true then some may have been on his wagon as well.
Your have to forgive me I'm not into writing long lists on what who done what and who's done this, I read and I listen then I make my mind up which way I'm going to vote, I will interject when I need to.

 
In other words you are lurking, not giving any input except for a sporadic voting record. Its almost like scum tactics 101 this game. We can't get a read on you if you don't give input, and yeah, that can benefit you depending on what your goal is. If you are townie, its counter productive because if we can get a read on you we can write you off the suspect list and narrow down who is scum. If you are scum then it benefits you to stay in the shadow and not contribute anything that could be used to determine that you are scum.

since 2 PRs are dead already I believe it's better for the remaining PRs to lay low and not let scum in particular get a read, if there is a doctor left it would be less risky, but we cant know for sure.

[legoboyvdlp]

Assuming he is a scum he'd know by now that he has no business siting on a dominant wagon (suboptimal choice for a scum since he would put himself in jeopardy as victim would inevitably turn out to be a town), especially creating an overflow, especially when there's another townie wagon (KevinH).

 

 

Same holds true for me. 

So you still think I'm scum?

[Rhizoctonia]

Atm I don't even have time to read your post (just skimmed it), not to mention posting anything new.

I'll just post things I was going to publish on D2 but didn't managed due to FB locking me out with his 9th vote that closed that day prematurely:

 

I don't think we'll get anything out of Rafay's wagon right now (to many people jumping in, no counters around). Instead we had 3 interesting bandwagons yesterday that are worth remembering for the future days (especially if Rafay turns scum):

Rafay (7): KevinH, Canik, Lyner, legoboyvdlp, D34THBR1NG3R, Finster Baby, 1ceCream
KevinH (5): Preston, iSocialism, Rhizoctonia, Chaplain of Death, Samus
legoboyvdlp (3): Ali bin Turban, Sister Midnight, Mazuurek

 

Those wagons do not give enough information on their own, but I think we can draw some conclusions about Finster.

 - Assuming he is a scum he'd know by now that he has no business siting on a dominant wagon (suboptimal choice for a scum since he would put himself in jeopardy as victim would inevitably turn out to be a town), especially creating an overflow, especially when there's another townie wagon (KevinH).

 

 - Only exception would be if KevinH is a scum (which is still possible - he could just gamble with his claim, he could be a scum watcher, or if the mafia lacks ninja (and considering the fact they were lucky to take out watcher) he could draw a conclusion there's no tracker around and made relatively safe role claim) and Finster was trying to protect him...however Finster called me out for not voting on KevinH (which was not true but that's irrelevant here)...if he was scum in this situation his call would basically mean "Could you please lynch my scumbuddy and confirm yourself as a town" - I don't think that's likely situation.

 

Due to the above I'm thinking that most probably I was wrong about him and Finster may actually be a townie (and I forgive him his meaningless voting on me).

 

That's almost all from me for today. Just one small note about thing I didn't like:

 

Who benefits from KevinH's claim that Preston didn't do anything last night? Did anyone pressured KevinH to share his findings or are we now helping scums in taking out our PR's (in this case by informing them that Preston is probably a VT...assuming he's town)?

 

 

I find it odd you looked to copy the vote/wagons when you weren't on Kevin's.

 

Rafay (6): KevinH, Canik, Lyner, legoboyvdlp, D34THBR1NG3R, 1ceCream

KevinH (6): Preston, iSocialism, Rhizoctonia, Chaplain of Death, Samus, Ali bin Turban

legoboyvdlp (2): Sister Midnight, Mazuurek

 

 

You seem to want to cherry pick when you want to quote a vote count.  The fact you left yourself off of Kevin's, which to me makes me think you're trying to disassociate yourself from being on it at all and have people forget.

 

Who benefits from KevinH's claim that Preston didn't do anything last night? Did anyone pressured KevinH to share his findings or are we now helping scums in taking out our PR's (in this case by informing them that Preston is probably a VT...assuming he's town)?

 

 

I unfortunately was typing my reply when Kevin said who he followed last night.  If people see, I even mentioned Kevin likely shouldn't say any details of his role unless it helps with last night's kill to not give away a RP.  You'd be correct though, he could of very well just helped scum by telling them Preston is likely a VT if Preston is in fact town.  There was no benefit to Kevin releasing the information....it gave us absolutely nothing.  Preston could be a VT, or he could be a scum goon...it doesn't help anyone out saying it, besides scum.  

[Wolfpacks]

active Let me see how this works, in Samus's view if you are inactive you need to be prodded, well that worked with Rafay didnt it mate, I tend to go on the theory that only half of the scum was on Rafays wagon, as the townies was also involved in lynching Rafay, if KevinH is role claiming and it's true then some may have been on his wagon as well.
Your have to forgive me I'm not into writing long lists on what who done what and who's done this, I read and I listen then I make my mind up which way I'm going to vote, I will interject when I need to.

 
In other words you are lurking, not giving any input except for a sporadic voting record. Its almost like scum tactics 101 this game. We can't get a read on you if you don't give input, and yeah, that can benefit you depending on what your goal is. If you are townie, its counter productive because if we can get a read on you we can write you off the suspect list and narrow down who is scum. If you are scum then it benefits you to stay in the shadow and not contribute anything that could be used to determine that you are scum.

The last game I got called for fluffyness and over posting, I decided not to do it this game, but you wouldn't know that COD as you was dropped on day one, tbh I leave enough tidbits for people to read, not my fault that they ain't easy to see

[Rhizoctonia]

Looking back through D2. Lego voted Rafay at 1st which is a rather safe pick for scum. Then when the Kevin was nearing lynch he switches his vote to Kevin, a much bigger prize which seemed almost a sure thing at that point. Then Kevin roleclaims and Lego switches back to Rafay.

http://ironcentral.org/community/topic/57842-tw-03-harry-potter-and-the-chamber-of-secrets-mafia-day-3/?p=875921
http://ironcentral.org/community/topic/57842-tw-03-harry-potter-and-the-chamber-of-secrets-mafia-day-3/?p=875933
http://ironcentral.org/community/topic/57842-tw-03-harry-potter-and-the-chamber-of-secrets-mafia-day-3/?p=876032

Rafay may not have said much but there is still plenty of info to analyze from the wagons. Though it would have helped had Rafay had posted a lot I admit, allowing his style sure won't encourage that in the future.

I gave Lego the benefit of the doubt yesterday because he reacted to my pressure how I think a VT should react but sometimes I am too quick to let one townie seeming response dispel my suspicion. His scummy voting pattern has me kind of wishing I did push him instead of Rafay. So I will do so now - Vote Lego

Lego is also the best choice because he already has made a claim. If we push for a lynch on someone new, they may be forced to claim like KevinH was and narrow down the remaining PRs for scum even more.

 

 

Looking back through D2. Lego voted Rafay at 1st which is a rather safe pick for scum.

 

 

Coming from someone who 1st voted Rafay and stuck with him, thank you for admitting with your response that it was a rather safe pick for a SCUM.

 

Lego is also the best choice because he already has made a claim. If we push for a lynch on someone new, they may be forced to claim like KevinH was and narrow down the remaining PRs for scum even more.

 

 

Lol.  That has to be the most absolutely scummiest remark.  Let's not actually go after someone who is likely scum, let's go after someone who has already RC'd and kill off another townie.  You'd love to see that if you were a scum.  I already stated anyone who still is gunning Lego on D2 after his RC and his remark about him and TW is suspicious...it's day 3, you're still, check off that box for you.

 

You did zero to actually help town D2.  In your own words, your vote was a safe vote for a scum.  Now D3 comes, you don't analyze anything, you simply go the easy/safe vote on Lego, and provide nothing else.  You have made both days now focused on two towns, 1 confirmed and 1 I would bet money is, and continue to look to hurt town's effort to actually find true scum.

 

My vote is toss up between Icecream and Canik...I am betting both are  

[Rhizoctonia]

What tid bits are we missing.  I spent the time to quote all your posts on D2

 

 

That's not good we need to find out how they got that lucky

 

No help

 

 

That's not good we need to find out how they got that lucky

My meaning on this was, that the killing by the scum on D1 of Mandi was very random and indeed lucky, he hardly posted in D1 but got killed by the scum on N1, he only called 3 people Death, Rafay who he voted on and Lego. Any one of them could have sealed his fate, I have been suspicious of Rafay and Lego from d1, but now I'm going to vote for one of them.

Vote Legoboy

Reason, I think he has tried way to hard to disguise himself as town, way too early, that seem scummy to me

 

 

Votes a guy I believe is town, and RC'd

 

My reason for voting for legoboy on d2 over d1, I still stand by what I said on day one that lynching someone will get you nowhere, there isn't enough evidence that lead you to anyone person, I was suspicious of Legoboy from the start as I have said and nothing as changed my view on this, to me role claiming as quick as he did seems pointless and if anything put more pressure on himself, to say he is happy to sacrifice himself isn't helpful either, but then I haven't seen anything by anyone else that's made me suspicious either. I very much dislike the way that Rafay and mazuurek play as well there is no help from them either, so I can't vote for all three sadly,
I

Unvote Legoboy
And
Vote no lynch for now.

Reasoning because I still have no clue and don't want to lynch a town

 

Odd to switch to no lynch rather then simply unvote

 

I went for the no lynch vote for no other reason as I was torn between 3 or 4 suspects and decided to give myself time to rethink, yes I could have just voted no vote then I would have looked like I'm backtracking, the more I learn about the game play the less I want emotion to rule the way I vote, I'm not someone who will follow blindly because someone else has, do I still suspect Legoboy yes to a degree but listening to Samus less so now,
I am still fed up with the way rafay plays but do I think he is scum no not particularly.
Mazuurek is slowly becoming my suspect as scum, he posts nothing of help and is pretty random in what he says.

Unvote

Vote Mazuurek

 

You look to explain your reasoning for voting no lynch.  Then you vote someone no one has even brought up, nor have you before, a day before deadline.  Your reason for voting him literally could be the same reason people to vote you...odd you use that as a reason.  I agree Maz has been inactive which I do not like either, but not like you have been much better

 

Finster you seem to forget easy, I was over zealous last game this time I'm more thoughtful, but I'm sure I had a FOS on Mazuurek before I voted so not so out field, but I must admit I am disappointed on how a few others are playing this time, im playing the game right this time, as Rhizo says I'm hard to read and that's the way I like it

 

That's quite fine to look to improve each game....that doesn't mean go to the other end of the extreme and not hardly do much of anything, and then call people out for doing the same.

 

Rhizo says I'm hard to read and that's the way I like it

 

 

Feel I should mention again.  This is quite a scummish remark.  In no way does it help for you to be hard to read if you're town.  The only benefit for you being hard to read is if you're scum, as a town would want people to pick up on you're town or believe you're.  Not doing anything so no one has a read and can tell one way or the other.  Rafay does that, look where it found him.  

[Sister Midnight]

 
Vote: Mazuurek
 
because of what he didn't do.
 

• Didn't vote no-lynch Day 1
• Didn't vote Rafay Day 2
• Didn't post very much all game

 

 
you want another (potential) town dead based on just activity?
 
your roleclaim is making me question if you are who you say you are now.

This.

Fingering Kev very firmly.

[Canik]

Lol. That has to be the most absolutely scummiest remark. Let's not actually go after someone who is likely scum, let's go after someone who has already RC'd and kill off another townie. You'd love to see that if you were a scum. I already stated anyone who still is gunning Lego on D2 after his RC and his remark about him and TW is suspicious...it's day 3, you're still, check off that box for you. You did zero to actually help town D2. In your own words, your vote was a safe vote for a scum. Now D3 comes, you don't analyze anything, you simply go the easy/safe vote on Lego, and provide nothing else. You have made both days now focused on two towns, 1 confirmed and 1 I would bet money is, and continue to look to hurt town's effort to actually find true scum. My vote is toss up between Icecream and Canik...I am betting both are

I am analyzing things I just didn't have time to post it all. What I did post included an analysis of Lego's voting patterns so you're definitely wrong there. And yes, I know it's ironic and could be detrimental to my health admitting Rafay would be a rather safe vote for a scum but just trying to play objectively and going to call out my suspicions. If it gets me lynched, so be it.

Of course I qualified it with 'rather' because it's still not completely safe. Lego would almost certainly perceive it as such though being a newer player. As he would voting on Kevin when he did.

As far me not helping town, what have you done to help town? Pressured Kevin into roleclaiming, then voted on someone who had no change of being lynch. That would also be a rather safe move.

Also, what do you mean Lego's remarks about him & TW?

I unfortunately was typing my reply when Kevin said who he followed last night. If people see, I even mentioned Kevin likely shouldn't say any details of his role unless it helps with last night's kill to not give away a RP. You'd be correct though, he could of very well just helped scum by telling them Preston is likely a VT if Preston is in fact town. There was no benefit to Kevin releasing the information....it gave us absolutely nothing. Preston could be a VT, or he could be a scum goon...it doesn't help anyone out saying it, besides scum.

 
You sound awfully sure Preston is a VT. Just because he didn't use an ability last night doesn't necessarily mean he has no role.. interesting.

[Rhizoctonia]

 

Lol. That has to be the most absolutely scummiest remark. Let's not actually go after someone who is likely scum, let's go after someone who has already RC'd and kill off another townie. You'd love to see that if you were a scum. I already stated anyone who still is gunning Lego on D2 after his RC and his remark about him and TW is suspicious...it's day 3, you're still, check off that box for you. You did zero to actually help town D2. In your own words, your vote was a safe vote for a scum. Now D3 comes, you don't analyze anything, you simply go the easy/safe vote on Lego, and provide nothing else. You have made both days now focused on two towns, 1 confirmed and 1 I would bet money is, and continue to look to hurt town's effort to actually find true scum. My vote is toss up between Icecream and Canik...I am betting both are

I am analyzing things I just didn't have time to post it all. What I did post included an analysis of Lego's voting patterns so you're definitely wrong there. And yes, I know it's ironic and could be detrimental to my health admitting Rafay would be a rather safe vote for a scum but just trying to play objectively and going to call out my suspicions. If it gets me lynched, so be it.

Of course I qualified it with 'rather' because it's still not completely safe. Lego would almost certainly perceive it as such though being a newer player. As he would voting on Kevin when he did.

As far me not helping town, what have you done to help town? Pressured Kevin into roleclaiming, then voted on someone who had no change of being lynch. That would also be a rather safe move.

Also, what do you mean Lego's remarks about him & TW?

 

I unfortunately was typing my reply when Kevin said who he followed last night. If people see, I even mentioned Kevin likely shouldn't say any details of his role unless it helps with last night's kill to not give away a RP. You'd be correct though, he could of very well just helped scum by telling them Preston is likely a VT if Preston is in fact town. There was no benefit to Kevin releasing the information....it gave us absolutely nothing. Preston could be a VT, or he could be a scum goon...it doesn't help anyone out saying it, besides scum.

 
You sound awfully sure Preston is a VT. Just because he didn't use an ability last night doesn't necessarily mean he has no role.. interesting.

 

 

So now you're implying what Lego thinks because he's new...trying to rationalize the difference where it's not a "safe" vote for you, but for Lego it would of been.

 

Please show me all the analysis you've done this game?  Please show me all the pressuring you've done?  I'd love to see all the thoughts you've posted over now, 2 weeks of gameplay or so?  Congrats, for the first time you posted links to explain your vote.  A vote...on someone I and seemingly many believe his RC and you looking to further waste this day arguing over this again rather then town actually focus on scum.  Instead of actually looking to find other scum if you truely believe he's scum, you instead just go with the easy vote and instead don't actually care to look into anyone else.

 

What have I looked to help town?  Let's see, I looked to stop a lynch on Rafay while pointing out the quick wagons on him that made me believe he's likely town....and looky there...I was right.  I tried to stop scum like you from lynching another likely townie in Lego, which makes you absolutely scum in my eyes.  I've posted my thoughts and analysis on pretty much every person, put together a list of my possible scum/town for people to read, and looked to challenge people and call out contradictions of people.  Yea...I helped cause Kevin to RC...not happy about it, but nonetheless I put thought into my reasoning for doing so, not just vote off an inactive that you have zero reads on. I helped caused Kevin to roleclaim....but guess what I didn't do, help lynch a townie where you had no idea if he was town/scum nor if he had a PR.  If you want to talk about whats worse...I caused someone to expose his role, you voted off someone that very well could of had an important PR and you had no idea, nor have statement to analyze.  Someone, who could of been replaced by someone else.  You just got lucky he was a VT....we town caught a lucky break...it doesn't change you killed off someone without knowing if he had a PR.  

 

Reason I don't think Lego is scum is because he already admitted TW warned him about role claiming and he seemed apologetic about it: 

http://ironcentral.org/community/topic/57842-tw-03-harry-potter-and-the-chamber-of-secrets-mafia-day-2/page-2#entry873285

 

Samus already pointed to Lego's interaction with mod

 

I also find this hilarious

If we push for a lynch on someone new, they may be forced to claim like KevinH was and narrow down the remaining PRs for scum even more.

 

So instead looking outside of the two main people that have been talked about and high on votes for 2 days now (Rafay, Lego), you rather just keep voting on whose been on the hotseat because we could expose a role looking elsewhere.  Where was this type of thinking yesterday?  You fear pressuring people and possibly exposing a role....but you don't have any issues lynching someone you know nothing on and no idea if they had a PR or not.  Makes a lot of logical sense.  It also goes completely against how you've played in other games.

 

 

I unfortunately was typing my reply when Kevin said who he followed last night. If people see, I even mentioned Kevin likely shouldn't say any details of his role unless it helps with last night's kill to not give away a RP. You'd be correct though, he could of very well just helped scum by telling them Preston is likely a VT if Preston is in fact town. There was no benefit to Kevin releasing the information....it gave us absolutely nothing. Preston could be a VT, or he could be a scum goon...it doesn't help anyone out saying it, besides scum.

 
You sound awfully sure Preston is a VT. Just because he didn't use an ability last night doesn't necessarily mean he has no role.. interesting.

 

 

What are you smoking Canik?  Where in the paragraph I wrote did I ever sound awfully sure he was a VT?  I said it was "likely" he was.  I don't know how that is some ultra big surprise of a statement to make.  If he had a PR, you know, say Cop/RC/Doc/Watcher/Tracker/Etc....yea most times they use their ability every night.  Of course there are other roles say x-shots or vig or only allowed to use it on certain days,..but of the PR's we lost it doesn't seem like it's that, so it's "likely" he's a VT if he is town, or a scum goon if he's scum. That's not some off the wall assumption to make that it's "likely" he's one of them.  

 

Now I know, you being scum, you would certainly appreciate knowing for sure what his role is, ir any, if Preston is town...if he's a VT or not.  Luckily you wont know for sure, as at least Kevin wasn't able to expose everything with his careless posting of information that didn't serve to help town at all in regards to getting answers or last night's kill.  

 

[user=Samus] let's see if you still feel the same...here's Canik still suspecting and pushing a lynch on Lego, now on D3.  

[legoboyvdlp]

Okay, enough:
Unvote
Vote Canik

What can I say that Rhizo hasn't said?

[Rhizoctonia]

Also, forgot to respond to your other remark

 

then voted on someone who had no change of being lynch. That would also be a rather safe move.

 

 

You know what the difference is...I put reasoning behind my vote for 1cecream.   Unlike you, whose only reason is well he's inactive. 

 

So I was suppose to vote on who exactly to satisfy you?  Rafay who I had warned people multiple times about feeling weary of voting him because of the quick wagons (who was town).  Or KevinH, who I had voted on and he RC'd and I believed?  Or Lego who I've already stated I believe his RC after seeing it?   So to satisfy you, I was to vote on 1 of 3 people who I all came to the conclusion was likely town?  Sorry, I'm not going to vote for someone who I have a strong feeling is town just to please you.  I instead, after Kevin RC'd, went back to my list that I posted, and voted for who I thought was most likely scum and actually had an explanation for instead of "inactive."  But you stick to keep knocking off townies...I'll stick to looking for scum.

 

At this point, I strongly feel 1icecream is part of the scum team, but tomorrow is another day for him.  I strongly feel Canik is as well, and it's time to end his game

 

Unvote

Vote:  Canik

 

Time to see the scum team squirm

[Mazuurek]

I have to agree with Rhizo, better not flip town on us in case you get lynched'!
VOTE: Canik

[legoboyvdlp]

If you agree, vote