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[KevinH]

"He was standing at the end of a long, dimly lit chamber. Towering stone pillars entwined with more serpents, rose to a ceiling lost in darkness, casting long, black shadows through the odd, greenish gloom that filled the place"
 

 
Rather than accusing each other baselessly since nobody knows nothin' ...
 
Perhaps we should discuss the theme and possible influences on the setup.
 
The Chamber of Secrets is under Hogwart's Castle, and has a Basilisk. Perhaps one of the scum in this game is the Basilisk and has some corresponding powers.
 
Discuss.

[legoboyvdlp]

A strongman; ie can't be stopped by bulletproof / doctor? 
 
 

Mafia Goon, Mafia Encryptor, Mafia Godfather, Mafia Ninja, Mafia Strongman, Mafia Traitor

[Samus]

The simplest way to know if Rafay is scum or not is to see how the wagon progress. If nobody tried to defend Rafay then he's probably townie. If some people did he might be a scum.

 

This might scare some new players to not vote Rafay by thinking that defending Rafay might paint them scummy, but I'd be impressed if his scum friends didn't try to save him at all.

 

 

 

I'm down for lynching Rafay at day 1, if he can't be useful today and in the next days--as history suggests--I'd rather not have him around. Otherwise it should be a no lynch.

 

AbT seems to be baking something for Lego, I don't see any strong motive though, we shall see.

This logic is contradictory coming from you.

 

When Lego was on the chopping block last game, did you or any of your scum mates try to save him?

[Sister Midnight]

And if I may add, Preston admitted it himself that he became suspicious of the actually innocent iSoc last game because of this way of observation

He also was right most of the time.

[Ali bin Turban]

Normally I'd vote on Rafay myself. However I don't want him to get 9 votes and end D1 prematurely - there's a lot to talk about.

 

Now to continue my story about Lego. I've put part of my reasoning here: http://ironcentral.org/community/topic/57842-tw-03-harry-potter-and-the-chamber-of-secrets-mafia-day-1/page-6#entry874084 . Here's more:

- It seems that Lego is trying get someone lynched. Apparently it does not matter to him, who will be lynched. Just take a look at this chain of events:

        post #87: Death shares his thoughts about Finster

        he's asked why. Explains himself in post #90. Lego seems to be satisfied with the response (post #91)

        two more posts from other people that voice their dissatisfaction of "confirming" someone so easily and Lego feels like he's catching the wind and jumps back at Death with FoS.

        when he's back and sees wagon forming on Rafay, he immediately jumps on it.

 

I don't know if Lego is a scum or not. I suspect him being one and believe he's the best lynch candidate. Not only because he acts scummy, but also because he might be our gate to other scums. I think I see some patterns that shows possible connections and damage control other scums are doing in order to save Lego's skin. 

 

So who might be Lego companions? I say his possible team might consist of Preston, 1ceCream, KevinH...I'm not sure who'd be the last one (though maybe, maybe Mandarijn - he's not giving out those usual good vibes).

 

First suspect: Preston

- I'm seeing myself from the previous game in his behavior. All those calls for activity, encouraging people to talk (post #34, #86, #101) - I did the same thing previously because that's the easiest way of pretending to care while actually not caring. Fun fact is that Preston did not do that in the previous game. To describe it, he felt then like a war correspondent and now he feels like car salesman.

 

- He knows Lego's strange behavior can't be denied, so he admits it yet at the same time tries to dismiss it (just the way I did on previous game).

          Post #63: "He's (Lego) hitting all the normal scum-hunting checkboxes, but doing it a little early on day 1 for it to mean anything... however I do like that we're getting some actual conversation out of this"

          But instead of having any conversation he posts this (#86): "Legoboy made early waves trying to be very proactively pro-townie, albeit perhaps trying a little hard."

          This is quite inconsistent: being proactively pro-townie while hitting all the normal scum-hunting checkboxes.

          After I made my first post on Lego, he responds (#124): "However Ali does sum up a lot of the thoughts we've been having about lego quite succinctly", yet he does nothing more about it.

 

- He's anxious about my post dividing...up to the point when he makes veiled threats (post #124), comparing it to looking harder on iSoc (and lynching him as a result) in previous game. That's very interesting, considering iSoc turned out to be town...so one would rather think "uh, I've made a mistake. I need to be more careful"...but Preston is using it as a threat.

 

Second suspect: 1ceCream

- To much agreeing with Lego (post #36). That vote-to-see-reaction was quite weak (can anyone else draw any town/scum conclusions from it?) and the way they both talk about it seems like it was agreed upon in the scum lobby.

 - Changing his mind so quickly: Death was suspicious to him in post #36 and in #39 is suddenly not anymore ("And Death, now that I look at it, Irescind my previous post") and in #97 is back again. Just as Lego, he don't really care about his "reads" probably because he does not need to.

 

And in general those 3 are circling around Death (since he made some moves they could take advantage of) poking him and probably waiting if anyone else catches the bait, because apparently they don't want to vote themselves.

 

Third suspect: KevinH

 

Here I don't have anything concrete. Just a feeling about him. KevinH seems to be trying to deflect a lot rather than defending directly...and unfortunately I don't have time to explain it now.

 

Finally a scum number - this is such a little, unimportant thing, yet it tells its own story:

 

- Lego claims there might be 5 scums. Lucky shot?

- post #28, KevinH appears, making very unusual remarks. Damage control?

- post #36 1ceCream joins and adds variation, making it 5 or 6. Why would he say there might be 6 scums? Basing on what? 6/18 scums is 33% ratio - very unlikely one (most probable is 4 or 5)...though 1ceCream does not know it, because he's a rookie, and he just took Lego's number and added 1 for variation.

- post #86 adds his 2 cents keeping up with 5 or 6 scums story.

- post #104 KevinH eventually appears and supports 5 or 6 number.

- post #119 Samus appears and says he agrees that there are 4 maybe 5 scums. I don't know who he agrees with (because noone else has mentioned 4 or 5), but that shows he might have misread KevinH (and therefore might not be connected to them).

 

Honestly, I can't tell for sure if any of those guys is a scum, but I have strong feeling there's something wrong about them. Lynching Lego is not only about responding to his very suspicious behavior but also about uncovering possible connections he has with his presumable team. Therefore even though I'd gladly vote for Rafay to show him, his playstyle is toxic, I think town has much more to gain out of lynching Lego.

 

vote legoboyvdlp

 

This logic is contradictory coming from you.

 

When Lego was on the chopping block last game, did you or any of your scum mates try to save him?

 

Actually yes. Don't you remember? I did say I suspect him, but I don't want to vote on him because there was little evidence.

A strongman; ie can't be stopped by bulletproof / doctor? 
 
 

Mafia Goon, Mafia Encryptor, Mafia Godfather, Mafia Ninja, Mafia Strongman, Mafia Traitor

 

Is that for me?

[Sister Midnight]

Wow look at all the people jumping on the wagon of Rafay in just the last few hours

 

Yeah.  He was who I had in mind when I said I was going to vote to lynch on the first day.  I Rafay, but his play style is a problem for me and I would like to discourage it.  We have 3 more days, I  was actually planning to try to start a bandwagon on him, but now I am holding off to see how things progress so that we don't end day 1 quite so quickly.  

 

Unless someone is able to convince me to do otherwise, or if the day ends prematurely, before I get to vote, I will be jumping on that bandwagon.

[Rhizoctonia]

I'm not against looking to lynch Rafay for his usual play style which is usually to be quite inactive or lurk....but he gained 5 or so votes in matter of hours.....that seems rather much and makes me less suspicious of him

[Samus]

I'm not against looking to lynch Rafay for his usual play style which is usually to be quite inactive or lurk....but he gained 5 or so votes in matter of hours.....that seems rather much and makes me less suspicious of him

yeah those votes went up way too quickly.

 

There has to be atleast one scum in this list, looking for a quick lynch: Mandarijn, Canik, Finster Baby, legoboyvdlp, Mazuurek

[Samus]

Actually yes. Don't you remember? I did say I suspect him, but I don't want to vote on him because there was little evidence.

 

that's not really defending

 

well it is, but that wouldn't have been picked up as a defense as it's a very vague statement

[Rafay]

Inactivity is death - benito mussolini

 

 

Wow a fascist quote to lynch a liberal.

 

But seriously out of 5 voting 3 are bound to be scum.

 

The got lucky last time. If you are townie better reverse your decision.

[Wolfpacks]

If I remember correctly didn't Rafays vote go up quickly last game, if we are talking about inactivity Maz seems to be playing that game again as well, his irratic voting and following wagons, I'm very suspicious of Legoboy because he seems to be talking without substance, I find it funny that when he got called for to much posting he suddenly stopped, saying he needed to drive somewhere. These are my prime targets

[The Warrior]

"Just our nephew--very disturbed--meeting strangers upsets him, so we kept him upstairs."

 

Vote Count

 

Rafay (5): Mandarijn, Canik, Finster Baby, legoboyvdlp, Mazuurek

legoboyvdlp (2): D34THBR1NG3R, Ali bin Turban

Lyner (1): Rafay

Ali bin Turban (0):

Canik (0):

Chaplain of Death (0):

D34THBR1NG3R (0):

Finster Baby (0):

1ceCream (0):

iSocialism (0):

KevinH (0):

Mandarijn (0):

Mazuurek (0):

Preston (0):

Rhizoctonia (0):

Samus (0):

Sister Midnight (0):

Wolfpacks (0):

 

No Lynch (4): KevinH, 1ceCream, Wolfpacks, Lyner

Not voting: Chaplain of Death, iSocialism, Preston, Rhizoctonia, Samus, Sister Midnight

 

With 18 alive, it takes 9 to lynch or 5 at deadline.
Deadline is 1:00pm CST on Thursday, August 11th.

[Rhizoctonia]

I mentioned Lego was worth some suspicion, not sure a vote. But I agree maz has been added to my list a bit as well, not posting much, but then comes out of left field with a vote with not much substance or reason. He voted Rafay for something that could be said for him.

[legoboyvdlp]

Not my fault I had to go and visit my grandparents, Wolfpacks...

Note that I was not posting elsewhere in the forums on Sunday.

[D34THBR1NG3R]

Not my fault I had to go and visit my grandparents, Wolfpacks...
Note that I was not posting elsewhere in the forums on Sunday.

http://ironcentral.org/community/topic/57866-alpha-august-audit/ just saying...

[Chaplain of death]

August 6th was saturday. Mmmmmmmmmmkay?

[D34THBR1NG3R]

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Yesterday wasn't Saturday though...

[legoboyvdlp]

7 AM. I got up then.

[Rhizoctonia]

Lego mentioned he would be gone, I don't see the real problem here, people miss a day.  It would be another thing if he said, yea wont be back till Friday (after day 1 ends).  Lego deserves some suspicion but I'll at least say your grasping at straws with a single post on a day.

[D34THBR1NG3R]

Lego mentioned he would be gone, I don't see the real problem here, people miss a day.  It would be another thing if he said, yea wont be back till Friday (after day 1 ends).  Lego deserves some suspicion but I'll at least say your grasping at straws with a single post on a day.

I was just saying he posted Sunday