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[SeaBeeGipson]

I know there's a framer in the game so this game is already in the unusual category.

How do you know?

[KevinH]

There has to be a framer because the cop got scum results on Ali and townie results on me.

Ali turned out to be town and because I am also town, the only way the cop could have gotten those results were if Ali were framed.

 

I suppose we could be doubting that the cop published proper results, but I will start with the assumption that the cop speaks truth.

[SeaBeeGipson]

Would an unaware miller have their role disclosed upon death? I don't think we've discussed that theory either.

[D34THBR1NG3R]

I have a pretty uneasy feeling about SM, too much weirdness and since she has been called out on it a lot recently she rarely speaks? I know she said she had RL stuff but I assume that's over now so I don't really know what to think, I feel SM is just trying to lay low now.

[Mandarijn]

I have a pretty uneasy feeling about SM, too much weirdness and since she has been called out on it a lot recently she rarely speaks? I know she said she had RL stuff but I assume that's over now so I don't really know what to think, I feel SM is just trying to lay low now.

It's not about SM, it's between KevinH and me (and my possible scum partners).

 

If SM is scum, why would everyone (including the 3 confirmed scums) want to lynch her?

[KevinH]

It's not Mandarijn vs me in my mind.  He could easily be a misguided townie, but we have to pick someone and he seems to be the best choice right now to me.  As I said, if Wolfpacks wants to try somebody else, I'll side with him.

[Mandarijn]

It is me vs 3 confirmed scum.

But it's true, it doesn't matter to you which townie you lynch. As long as WP doesn't pick one of your scum buddies, I'm sure you will gladly vote for that townie. That's the problem with you scums, you don't scum hunt.

@iSocialism I can't remember you making a post today? We need your input!

[Sister Midnight]

Last night I investigated Yehom and he came up Result: Normal Hogwarts Student/Staff.I personally think Mandi is town basic reason for not investigating him.

He nvestigated Yehom, Rhizo, and Kev, as normal, and ALI as not normal. ALI was normal, so that raises the question of insane or Framer. The thing that is telling to me is that I think Yehom is scum based upon his early behavior and defensiveness. Now Kev says he's town and there MUST be a Framer because he's town - unless he's scum, in which case his argument is the best one he could make to defend himself. Did TW put a Framer into play? Maybe, but insane cop seems more likely. Did Wolfy get investigate 3 scum on his first 4 tries? Doesn't seem extremely likely, but my gut says it is more likely than there being a framer, I could wrong, but

VOTE KEVIN

[KevinH]

Posts during this day:

13 Mandarijn
9 SeaBeeGipson
7 KevinH
4 Rhizoctonia
4 Sister Midnight
3 Yehom
2 D34THBR1NG3R
2 Wolfpacks
0 iSocialism

 

There are only 2 days before deadline.

 

If anything, the townies are more confirmed (godfather and mafia-aligned roles still possible).

Our lynch candidate should come from those that are not confirmed as anything.

[Sister Midnight]

I have a pretty uneasy feeling about SM, too much weirdness and since she has been called out on it a lot recently she rarely speaks? I know she said she had RL stuff but I assume that's over now so I don't really know what to think, I feel SM is just trying to lay low now.

Really? I'm posting more than you based on Kevin's numbers.

[The Warrior]

"When a wizard goes over ter the Dark Side there's nothin' and no one matters to 'em anymore.…"

 

Vote Count

 

KevinH (3): Mandarijn, King Hitler, Sister Midnight

Mandarijn (2): Yehom, KevinH

D34THBR1NG3R (0):

iSocialism (0):

King Hitler (0):

Rhizoctonia (0):

Sister Midnight (0):

Wolfpacks (0):

Yehom (0):

 

No Lynch (0):

 

Not Voting: D34THBR1NG3R, iSocialism, Rhizoctonia, Wolfpacks

 

With 9 players alive it takes 5 to lynch or 3 at deadline.

Deadline is 1:00pm CST on Friday, November 18th.

[SeaBeeGipson]

Posts during this day:
13 Mandarijn
9 SeaBeeGipson
7 KevinH
4 Rhizoctonia
4 Sister Midnight
3 Yehom
2 D34THBR1NG3R
2 Wolfpacks
0 iSocialism
 
There are only 2 days before deadline.
 
If anything, the townies are more confirmed (godfather and mafia-aligned roles still possible).
Our lynch candidate should come from those that are not confirmed as anything.

I feel this far into the game we all should be averaging about 5-10posts each at the lowest amount.
Can we ping Isocialism? I dont recall even seeing him online

[Mandarijn]

If anything, the townies are more confirmed (godfather and mafia-aligned roles still possible).

Our lynch candidate should come from those that are not confirmed as anything.

Of course you would want that, because there's only 1 scum among those. So the chance that we hit that person is so low that you're willing to take that risk. 

But we have 3 confirmed scums, so why would we take that risk?

 

@SM: WP got 2/3 scums and then 1 more. Which means his gut/feelings work very well and more people should use this.

[D34THBR1NG3R]

 

I have a pretty uneasy feeling about SM, too much weirdness and since she has been called out on it a lot recently she rarely speaks? I know she said she had RL stuff but I assume that's over now so I don't really know what to think, I feel SM is just trying to lay low now.

Really? I'm posting more than you based on Kevin's numbers.

 

never said I posted more than you, I said you have been posting less than usual after being called out, which is true.

[Sister Midnight]

 

 

I have a pretty uneasy feeling about SM, too much weirdness and since she has been called out on it a lot recently she rarely speaks? I know she said she had RL stuff but I assume that's over now so I don't really know what to think, I feel SM is just trying to lay low now.

Really? I'm posting more than you based on Kevin's numbers.

 

never said I posted more than you, I said you have been posting less than usual after being called out, which is true.

 

I am posting as much as I feel the need to post.  I have clearly explained that I had a lot of crap going on in RL and TBH, things have gotten worse in some ways, but I am more focused and I have come to terms with some of it.  I am doing my best here and honestly, so far today I think I've made as good a contribution as I can in any circumstances.  On the other hand, I am not seeing much of value from you.

[Yehom]

Seriously let me get this straight, people get investigated and come up clean: they have to be scum. People get tracked and trackers see nothing: they have to be godfather-ninja, or what ever modifier this game allows. I seriously don't get why Manda keeps on hammering that the people that have been checked and came up clean are 'confirmed scum'. Honestly if that is how you play this game, what use does a power role still have if you just keep on doing the complete opposite of what they ask. Instead people want to follow a person that 1) has yet to be investigated, 2) has yet to be followed or tracked, 3) decided to play this game since D3 and bases everything only from the day he started playing. He keeps on hammering on the fact that it's either him or 'the confirmed scum'. Funny how the people that came clean are pronounced scum in a game where some people have been checked not once but twice. That's some backwards thinking if I've ever seen it. 

 

Also just pointing out this 'discussion' if you want to call it that, which SM is trying to start here. Honestly that fact that we have to debate on 'how much someone is posting', contribution to this game, value of posts and what not. Do you really want to start this? I get hammered on for voting for 2 people that acted shady af but they turn out town and get called out for it. SM joins some wagons on the absolute brink of the deadlines, both people turn out to be town and yet she gets this label of 'oh, she's town, she's just playing badly'. On top of that she has been called out a couple of times: dead silence on her part. Instead she opts to throw in some random comments to make it look like she’s active. Can you honestly tell me that you have any contribution to any discussion that we had on anything SM? If so, please share your contributions so far, because as far as I’m concerned, I think they are basically non-existent. Instead on trying to starting some funky argument about contribution, I suggest you start contributing yourself. 

[Sister Midnight]

Yes, Yehom. I am on my iPad at work, so it is tricky for me to do a lot of editing and linking, so I'll recap. I said I think it is more likely that we have an insane cop than a framer. You lynched an innocent townie, I did not vote for him because my gut was that he was telling the truth. My gut is that you are scum, and if an insane cop, who found a vanilla townie "unhelpful" finds you to be a normal student, that would imply that you are not a normal student. I voted for Kevin because there already is a bandwagon and if the above logic applies to you, it applies to him, otherwise I'd be gunning for you, based upon your voting history and your early defensiveness and, most of all, my instincts.

I acknowledged that I played very badly up to the last lynch. I did ask TW to replace me because I was too distracted to play well and it was unfair to the town to keep playing. He hasn't found a replacement, but several days have passed (in real time) I feel I can pull myself together and focus on the game constructively. I am doing my best and I believe I have given helpful, well thought out input. I will continue to do my best until TW replaces me or until the end of this game. Since I am a townie the game will end if I am lynched, so that is why I phrased things that way. If I were scum I would not have called attention to myself by playing like a crazy person and my scum buddies would have stopped me from acting that way.

[Yehom]

So basically the only difference between you and me is that I got defensive? Got it, next time someone accuses me of bullshit, I'll ignore that shit and pretend nothing happened, because apparently that's the way townies play. 

 

Again I'm going to repeat what I said earlier. Why would everybody assume that the cop is insane. I'm just going to throw this out, but you were one (and I think the last one even) to vote for Ali. Talk about hypocrite. Ali was 'non-helpful', he has to be scum. OMG he wasn't, while 3 other people turn up normal, OMG they have to scum. Meanwhile 3/4 other people have yet to be investigated, yet to be followed or tracked. Nah man, they are clean right? Why do we even have power roles? Seriously

[Sister Midnight]

So basically the only difference between you and me is that I got defensive? Got it, next time someone accuses me of bullshit, I'll ignore that shit and pretend nothing happened, because apparently that's the way townies play. 

It is too hard for me to look over every vote, but how many successful lynches of townies did you vote for? Going by memory I think it was most of them. Certainty more than me. That would be a pretty big difference.

 

[Yehom]

There have been a whooping total of 3 lynches now. I voted for Robert and 1cecream, who again (I'm sounding like a record or what?) BOTH acted suspect as shit the days that they were lynched, hence they were lynched by a majority, not by deadline. You have voted for 1cecream (same as I did, but your vote didn't count if you really and actually want to go on technicalities, because your vote was after deadline, but you voted anyways) and Ali. By my calculations thats 2 versus 2. Instead of 'going off of memory', it's not that hard to find this information, if you actually did the research (or just looked back at 2 posts in what 2 minutes). You're not even trying to play this game properly are you, because selective memory > actual research

 

Still waiting for that contribution by the way