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[KevinH]

KevinH (3): Mandarijn, King Hitler, Sister Midnight

Mandarijn (2): Yehom, KevinH

 

Not Voting: D34THBR1NG3R, iSocialism, Rhizoctonia, Wolfpacks

 

 

Dear D34THBR1NG3R, iSocialism, Rhizoctonia, and Wolfpacks,

Please consider voting for Mandarijn,  I am a townie and by lynching me, the town will all but lose this game.  Mandarijn is realistically the only alternative with the deadline looming so near.

 

Sincerely,

 

KevinH 

[Sister Midnight]

So for all your moral outrage over my going by memory, you have now lied about how I voted, Yehom. I did not vote for ALI. You didn't vote for anyone last time because you knew he was going to be lynched, so you didn't vote at all and claimed you thought neither lynch party had the right guy. I voted for one townie this entire game, Icecream, who looked scummy. That vote didn't count, but I did vote for him. I notice you have not been adding a whole lot to the conversation for pages and pages, but you sure perked up now that I fingered you.

As for my contribution, you clearly don't like it, but what I have been saying is valid and your efforts to ignore or discount my contribution to save yourself and your scum buddy, Kev, has been noted.

There have been a whooping total of 3 lynches now. I voted for Robert and 1cecream, who again (I'm sounding like a record or what?) BOTH acted suspect as shit the days that they were lynched, hence they were lynched by a majority, not by deadline. You have voted for 1cecream (same as I did, but your vote didn't count if you really and actually want to go on technicalities, because your vote was after deadline, but you voted anyways) and Ali. By my calculations thats 2 versus 2. Instead of 'going off of memory', it's not that hard to find this information, if you actually did the research (or just looked back at 2 posts in what 2 minutes). You're not even trying to play this game properly are you, because selective memory > actual research

Still waiting for that contribution by the way

I meant to quote this first.

[D34THBR1NG3R]

 

KevinH (3): Mandarijn, King Hitler, Sister Midnight

Mandarijn (2): Yehom, KevinH

 

Not Voting: D34THBR1NG3R, iSocialism, Rhizoctonia, Wolfpacks

 

 

Dear D34THBR1NG3R, iSocialism, Rhizoctonia, and Wolfpacks,

Please consider voting for Mandarijn,  I am a townie and by lynching me, the town will all but lose this game.  Mandarijn is realistically the only alternative with the deadline looming so near.

 

Sincerely,

 

KevinH 

 

Dear KevinH,

 

Wait.

 

Sincerely,

 

D34THBR1NG3R

 

I shall vote when I feel adequate 

[Mandarijn]

@Yehom: It's obviously not only the investigation... You and Kevin were already on my radar (and Ali was pro-town) before WP posted his results, so my gut said you both were scum. If then WP posted his result I was surprised, but I gave KevinH the benefit of the doubt, and assumed there was a framed that framed Ali. Then Ali turned up town and you turned up as helpfull. So another suspect of mine is supposedly a townie?? I'm obviously not always right, but this much coincidence can't be possible... Then the logical conclusion is obviously that WP is insane. There's just not another scum team possible as it had to be: SM, SBG, iSoc and D34th and I'm just not buying that...

[Wolfpacks]

Sorry been busy in RL , my theory is there is either a GF involved which you could perm 1 of 3 from my results or as Ali said there is a framer involved, I said before I voted for Ali my gut instinct said he was town but I had to go with my results. The other theory being bandied around is I'm a insane cop, that would mean out of 4 investigations I have been lucky enough to pick 3 scum, the odds on that happening considering I'm a newish player are going to be very high. Since the day started there have been 2 protagonist arguing whether they are town or not, Mandi and Yehom, I said before that my gut feeling is that Mandi is town and I've yet to see anything that can tell me otherwise, on Yehom I've been pretty suspicious of him from the day he jumped on Ali wagon on me without any real reason, but what is really disturbing me about him is his over agressiveness defence of himself, to me that's telling me he has something to hide. Now the question you have to ask is would TW have a Framer and GF in the same game, to make the game more interesting I would.

I go to go back to work but for now my FOS is squarely on Yehom

[Mandarijn]

For the rest of the town: We need 4 votes on KevinH before the scum can get 4 votes on me. Because they will be ready to cast their last 2 votes on me right before deadline to make the final mislynch happen (except if iSoc is scum, because he seems inactive). SBG might even switch if he's scum, so then we'll need 5 (because if it's 4vs3 and SBG switches to me, then it's 3vs4 and we lose as well), which means all townies need to vote for KevinH if we want certainty that we don't lose...

Any way: Don't wait with voting please, as right before deadline everything can happen!

 

If we lose because of iSoc's inactivity, I'm gonna be very pissed.

[SeaBeeGipson]

For the rest of the town: We need 4 votes on KevinH before the scum can get 4 votes on me. Because they will be ready to cast their last 2 votes on me right before deadline to make the final mislynch happen (except if iSoc is scum, because he seems inactive). SBG might even switch if he's scum, so then we'll need 5 (because if it's 4vs3 and SBG switches to me, then it's 3vs4 and we lose as well), which means all townies need to vote for KevinH if we want certainty that we don't lose...
Any way: Don't wait with voting please, as right before deadline everything can happen!
 
If we lose because of iSoc's inactivity, I'm gonna be very pissed.

Im town. Plus KevinH hit 3. Even if you get 4, since he hit 3 first he will be the one lynched unless you reach 5.

[Sister Midnight]

For the rest of the town: We need 4 votes on KevinH before the scum can get 4 votes on me. Because they will be ready to cast their last 2 votes on me right before deadline to make the final mislynch happen (except if iSoc is scum, because he seems inactive). SBG might even switch if he's scum, so then we'll need 5 (because if it's 4vs3 and SBG switches to me, then it's 3vs4 and we lose as well), which means all townies need to vote for KevinH if we want certainty that we don't lose...
Any way: Don't wait with voting please, as right before deadline everything can happen!
 
If we lose because of iSoc's inactivity, I'm gonna be very pissed.

Im town. Plus KevinH hit 3. Even if you get 4, since he hit 3 first he will be the one lynched unless you reach 5.

It could happen.

[iSocialism]

Sorry, I've been lurking more then inactive. I've been reading from my phone, but I hate typing on it, and really haven't have the time to sit down an express my thoughts. I learned from past games that it is better not to say anything, until you have the time to say it all. Otherwise, you're scum if you ask for some time to post your thoughts. So here we go

 

With AbT flipping town that leaves of with three options

1. WP is a liar 

2. WP is insane

3. There's a Framer

 

Four people have been investigated by WP, AbT was considered non helpful, and still flipped town. Kevin, Yehom and Rhiz, are all consider helpful by wp investigations.

 

Two roles are known (presented)

1. WP - Cop

2. d34th - watcher/follower... I can't remember

 

Four people are left;

SBG

Manda

SM

and myself. 

 

I believe all the town roles are truthful and telling the truth. However, I can't wrap my head around the idea that WP was able to track/investigate down three scums back to back for the most part. I'm now thinking that there is a chance of a lucky framer out there. I would still assume that one of the three could be a GF. Manda you could have pleaded this case the day before, instead you went after me.

Instead of saying I believe AbT is town and therefore WP might be insane and Rhiz and Kevin might be scum, you went after me. I got it, you went along with AbT idea of there being a framer in the mix, but the likely hood of that happening is rare. Now that AbT has flipped town, you are abandoned that idea, and have move onto the idea that there are three "confirmed" scum. The fact that you abandoned your idea of a framer even after supporting AbT, and pushing for my lynch/ Doesn't sit well with me. The fact you are so adamant about kevin and really haven't suggested someone else. The plying of votes on Kevin by un-investigated people looks fishy.   

 

Surely if we went after kevin and he is lynched, and then flipped town, you can move the motion to or must have been that framer after all. Though we would start the next day with 7 and with 4 scum out there, that math would lead up to a loss, or a win depending which shoes you are in.

 

Therefore

Vote Manda

[KevinH]

Even if you get 4, since he hit 3 first he will be the one lynched unless you reach 5.

 

No. It's the most votes at deadline with a minimum of the half-majority.

[SeaBeeGipson]

Even if you get 4, since he hit 3 first he will be the one lynched unless you reach 5.

 
No. It's the most votes at deadline with a minimum of the half-majority.

Oh, this is new information to me. (Never had an incident yet where this scenario has played out.)

[Mandarijn]

Instead of saying I believe AbT is town and therefore WP might be insane and Rhiz and Kevin might be scum, you went after me. I got it, you went along with AbT idea of there being a framer in the mix, but the likely hood of that happening is rare. Now that AbT has flipped town, you are abandoned that idea, and have move onto the idea that there are three "confirmed" scum. The fact that you abandoned your idea of a framer even after supporting AbT, and pushing for my lynch/ Doesn't sit well with me. The fact you are so adamant about kevin and really haven't suggested someone else. The plying of votes on Kevin by un-investigated people looks fishy.   

 

Surely if we went after kevin and he is lynched, and then flipped town, you can move the motion to or must have been that framer after all. Though we would start the next day with 7 and with 4 scum out there, that math would lead up to a loss, or a win depending which shoes you are in.

I've explained this already, but I'll do it again, because IF you're town you've just lost the game for us. 

 

I've moved on from the framer idea, because 2 of the 3 'confirmed' townies (KevinH and Yehom) were very high on my original suspect list, the 3rd 'confirmed' townie (Rhizo) has risen on my list yesterday. So if there are 2 options: (because WP is obviously not lying)

- there's a framer who got lucky with framing Ali and there's a very unlikely scum team in: iSoc, SBG, SM and D34th

- WP is an insane cop (which seems impossible to some of you, but I can't understand why? What have Yehom, KevinH and Rhizo done to help town that they deserve this free pass?) and all the ones that I originally suspected are indeed scum + 1 other (I still think SBG or iSoc)

Then yes I will thrust my gut more than the results of an (insane) cop...

 

If I'm scum, my scum partners would be who exactly? D34th (of who you think is town, so do I btw, or 1 of the 3 scums that I've been going after all day + yesterday. Good thinking!!!), SBG (I've had plenty of arguments with him and accused him multiple times as well) and SM (who everyone wanted to lynch at some point in this game) I suppose? That just makes no sense at all... I just don't see ANY logic in that.

 

But it's also possible that you're the 4th scum of course and that SBG is speaking the truth and then my pleading of course won't help a thing. And I'll be leaning more in this direction now...

 

@iSoc: I'm fine with lynching Yehom, KevinH or Rhizo. I just picked KevinH as he was my 1st suspect...

 

 

 

Even if you get 4, since he hit 3 first he will be the one lynched unless you reach 5.

 
No. It's the most votes at deadline with a minimum of the half-majority.

Oh, this is new information to me. (Never had an incident yet where this scenario has played out.)

 

Exactly, so that's why all townies should have voted (on KevinH), otherwise we'll always lose... 

 

EDIT: Actually, if iSoc is the 4th scum. We won't lose if we get to 4 votes 1st. So we'll need 1 more on KevinH before they get the 4th one on me.

[The Warrior]

"Ah, of course, there is no need to say any more, Miss Granger. Tell me, which of you will be dying this year?"

 

Vote Count

 

KevinH (3): Mandarijn, King Hitler, Sister Midnight

Mandarijn (3): Yehom, KevinH, iSocialism

D34THBR1NG3R (0):

iSocialism (0):

King Hitler (0):

Rhizoctonia (0):

Sister Midnight (0):

Wolfpacks (0):

Yehom (0):

 

No Lynch (0):

 

Not Voting: D34THBR1NG3R, Rhizoctonia, Wolfpacks

 

With 9 players alive it takes 5 to lynch or 3 at deadline.

Deadline is 1:00pm CST on Friday, November 18th.

 

Even if you get 4, since he hit 3 first he will be the one lynched unless you reach 5.

 

No. It's the most votes at deadline with a minimum of the half-majority.

 

This is correct. The "first person to reach X number of votes will be lynched" rule only applies when a vote is tied. If someone were to garner enough votes to be lynched at deadline, but then someone else surpasses that vote total before deadline, the person with the highest number of votes will be lynched.

[D34THBR1NG3R]

2. d34th - watcher/follower... I can't remember

Tracker lol 

[Rhizoctonia]

Well that sucks.  Had started to write up my response and feelings on everything when I got home, ate dinner, came back and started to finish it, and hit back on my browser on the wrong tab losing all I had written.  Do not have time or energy to write it up again.  So the TL:DR response is I've outlined my feeling on who I'm most sure on at the end of yesterday and today.  I wanted to hit on things Mandarijn has said today that only strengthen that, but my response was lost.  

Anyway, I'm certain Mandarijn is scum, and if he's lynched we should be setup good for tomorrow looking at who was with him.  Hopefully town doesn't make a mistake.

 

Vote:  Mandarijn

[SeaBeeGipson]

Pretty sure I can trust Mandarijn now.
We have 2 people left (both town in my mind)
A wagon hit 4 (with 4 scum)
I doubt Mandarijn would try to lynch himself if he was scum, so I can write him as town.
I know I am town.
SM is the only "wildcard" on the wagon at this point.

D43th and WP, think of that.

If Kevin appears scum, we just start working through that wagon and we win. We can win this because I truly believe the scum slipped up here.

[Wolfpacks]

I'm starting to second guess myself here which not a trait I like but, I tend to use gut feelings a lot and they bear fruit sometimes, all the evidence I had pointed to Ali being scum but my gut said he was town, I should have listened, this time I'm getting the same vibe about Mandi, so my feeling is that I could be a insane cop and got very lucky with my investigations, Yehom is already on my scum radar and he came up town, now I have seen something I've not seen in any of the games I have played so far KevinH pleading to vote for mandi and this worrys me. It stinks of desperation,

There have been three main people here that have been pushing hard to get Mandi lynched, Rhizo, KevinH and Yehom, no one else has. I don't think there is a framer involved, I believe I'm insane

Vote KevinH

[Mandarijn]

It's confirmed now iSoc is the 4th scum, otherwise SBG would've switched wagons already and we would've lost... The 4 scums are on my wagon together.

So it seems the deciding vote is for D34THBR1NG3R, which will decide if we win or lose this game. If he doesn't vote, we lose as well, because then I will be lynched.

[D34THBR1NG3R]

My gut is telling me one thing but my mind is telling me another. I just hope m gut isn't wrong...

 

Vote: KevinH

[Mandarijn]

For tomorrow (if I'm killed during the night): vote Yehom or Rhizo
Day after: Yehom/Rhizo
Last day: iSoc (he's 100% the 4th scum)