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[Martino]

Sorry haven't said it there but I put another reason why I voted from him in page 23.

Yes I know, but I had to drag that reason out of you. What I want to know is why you, at first, decided to vote without giving that reason.

[molestargazer]

VOTE COUNT
Kaziocore (1): Martino

Not Voting (9): Theophilos, Nerau, Sir Jesus, CanucksDynasty, Electric Mango, Falzis, Kaziocore, KevinH, Aquinas

- Falzis will be V/LA until July 11th.
- Nerau still needs replacing. Anyone knows someone / anyone dead wants to do it, shoot me off a PM.
- I'd like activity to pick up a bit.

[Kaziocore]

I don't really have anything new to add at that time. I only voted because I find the guys that spoke before me convincing. Sorry for not saying stuff like that. And it's my first real vote in this game and I did not know I should say something to vote for some guy.

[Electric Mango]

I was busy today due to it being 4th of July here in America. I hope everyone is having a great weekend. I'll be on throughout the day tomorrow to read what's going on and I'll get back to analyzing on Monday. I hope activity picks up soon. I have a feeling that at least one scum has been one of our inactive's.

[KevinH]

Vote: Falzis

I had my vote on him yesterday and then he voted to lynch a townie. I'll keep my vote where it was.

[Sir Jesus]

So I expected to have a decent internet connection while on vacation ... and am sorely disappointed. I glanced through last couple of pages and noticed some suspicion related to my late vote. Everyone needs to keep in mind, at that point in the game there was VERY little evidence to base a vote on (due to no-lynch on day 1). Falzis brought a very convincing piece of "evidence" to the table, and at the time it was the most substantial piece brought into the game.

If I was scum I probably would have just laid low and let someone die. In this game my only source of power comes from my votes, and I'm going to use that power to the best of my scum-hunting abilities, even if it draws heat to myself.

I've been asked for my 2 scummiest suspects in the soj-lynch camp...
And I feel like that could be an excellent manipulation by CD. Everyone has been focusing on those who voted for soj, allowing 1/3 of the people (and potentially all of the scum) to stay off the radar.

However if I must, I would guess Falzis and Kaziocore seem the scummiest.

[molestargazer]

I want more activity! Prods will be done later today.

[Martino]

So I expected to have a decent internet connection while on vacation ... and am sorely disappointed. I glanced through last couple of pages and noticed some suspicion related to my late vote. Everyone needs to keep in mind, at that point in the game there was VERY little evidence to base a vote on (due to no-lynch on day 1). Falzis brought a very convincing piece of "evidence" to the table, and at the time it was the most substantial piece brought into the game.

If I was scum I probably would have just laid low and let someone die.

That is assuming that both Falzis and Sojourner were a townie. I'm certainly not convinced that Falzis is a townie. If Falzis is one of your scum partners, you would be more likely to want to save him.

[CanucksDynasty]

So I expected to have a decent internet connection while on vacation ... and am sorely disappointed. I glanced through last couple of pages and noticed some suspicion related to my late vote. Everyone needs to keep in mind, at that point in the game there was VERY little evidence to base a vote on (due to no-lynch on day 1). Falzis brought a very convincing piece of "evidence" to the table, and at the time it was the most substantial piece brought into the game.

If I was scum I probably would have just laid low and let someone die. In this game my only source of power comes from my votes, and I'm going to use that power to the best of my scum-hunting abilities, even if it draws heat to myself.

I've been asked for my 2 scummiest suspects in the soj-lynch camp...
And I feel like that could be an excellent manipulation by CD. Everyone has been focusing on those who voted for soj, allowing 1/3 of the people (and potentially all of the scum) to stay off the radar.

However if I must, I would guess Falzis and Kaziocore seem the scummiest.

If you were scum then you could have laid low and let someone die. BUT not if Falzis is also scum. Your vote secured the lynch against soj. As for the manipulation (I see where you're going)... I'm focusing on those that voted for soj cuz...to me...I think at least 2 scum would have voted for him (going on the assumption that Falzis is scum). If you think the people that didn't vote for soj are possible suspects...then go ahead and give some reasoning for that then. My role was replaced twice (both newbies)...which screams TOWNIE (as per EM's post about activity).


Right now...the only person that I have townie vibes is Martino.

[Electric Mango]

I don't agree with that logic. With evidence that there is probably another doc (STRONG)...it is possible that we have a SK. One that is hiding (not killing in order to avoid detection from mafia and townie). Otherwise...why would there be 2 docs + 1 cop with just 3 mafia scum? Given the clues...I'm guessing 2 mafia + 1 SK.

I really don't think we have a SK. I just can't imagine someone being a serial killer and not using their night kills as early and often as they can.
I think that their chances of survival are the same no matter if they kill or not at night. 2 mafia seems low still. Maybe there are 2 groups of mafia?

[CanucksDynasty]

I really don't think we have a SK. I just can't imagine someone being a serial killer and not using their night kills as early and often as they can.
I think that their chances of survival are the same no matter if they kill or not at night. 2 mafia seems low still. Maybe there are 2 groups of mafia?

I don't know...just trying to make sense of the "WEAK" doc.

How people responded to my questions on who they thought were scummy (out of the people who lynched soj).
CD - Falzis, Kaziocore, SJ
Theophiles - Falzis, EM
EM - Falzis, SJ
Aquinas - SJ, KevinH
Kaziocore - Falzis, EM
KevinH - Falzis, EM
Martino - Falzis, Kaziocore
SJ - Falzis, Kaziocore

*bolded = who they voted for*

[Electric Mango]

If you were scum then you could have laid low and let someone die. BUT not if Falzis is also scum. Your vote secured the lynch against soj. As for the manipulation (I see where you're going)... I'm focusing on those that voted for soj cuz...to me...I think at least 2 scum would have voted for him (going on the assumption that Falzis is scum). If you think the people that didn't vote for soj are possible suspects...then go ahead and give some reasoning for that then. My role was replaced twice (both newbies)...which screams TOWNIE (as per EM's post about activity).


Right now...the only person that I have townie vibes is Martino.

I would agree that CD's inherited role is most likely townie. Typically new people want power roles and don't relish the vanilla townie role. If two of them abandoned their role it most likely means it was a vanilla townie. Of course this is not 100%, but it does push him higher up on my townie meter.


@CD ~ You said that Martino is the only one you are getting townie vibes from. Why?

[Aquinas]

Oh boy. I'm the only one who didn't vote for Falzis...I feel my life span shortening.

I didn't "vote" for him because I don't find that trying to clear his name is solid enough evidence to condemn him as scum. Wouldn't that be the intention of anyone? Trying to save themselves? Is there some other reason that I missed. What is the current case everyone has with Falzis?

[Electric Mango]

My hypothesis on weak doc/strong doc

I'm guessing that the weak doc can protect someone but would lose their own life in the process

The strong doc can protect someone at no harm to himself.

[CanucksDynasty]

I would agree that CD's inherited role is most likely townie. Typically new people want power roles and don't relish the vanilla townie role. If two of them abandoned their role it most likely means it was a vanilla townie. Of course this is not 100%, but it does push him higher up on my townie meter.


@CD ~ You said that Martino is the only one you are getting townie vibes from. Why?

Mainly cuz he flat out said Falzis reasoning for his vote on soj was weak (which I agree it was). And then it was all of sudden...bandwagon city on the train to soj.

I will wait for Falzis return and give him a chance to talk before casting my vote on him.

IF Falzis is scum…
1) Martino, Theophilos, and KevinH are townies cuz I don’t see fellow scum trying to lynch him. Especially since Falzis was the front runner before soj and all 3 did not change their vote.
2) SJ is scum…his last vote on the last day ensured Falzis would not get lynched.

IF Falzis is townie…
1) SJ is townie. Does not make sense for SJ to be the hammer vote if he was scum.

[CanucksDynasty]

EDWOP...

IF Falzis is scum...
2) SJ or Aquinas is scum. Aquinas for being the 5th vote and SJ for being the 6th vote. Essentially both votes put Falzis out of harm's way. But...I'm leaning towards SJ.

[Aquinas]

I'm surprised to hear you say that when I still don't have a vote registered for Falzis.
I'm just not exactly clear on the reasoning against Falzis.
I understand that we learn those things from lynching him but, whats the rationale for lynching him in the first place?

[CanucksDynasty]

Oh boy. I'm the only one who didn't vote for Falzis...I feel my life span shortening.

I didn't "vote" for him because I don't find that trying to clear his name is solid enough evidence to condemn him as scum. Wouldn't that be the intention of anyone? Trying to save themselves? Is there some other reason that I missed. What is the current case everyone has with Falzis?

It's fine that you didn't vote for Falzis. That's your choice. As for clearing his name...sure...some would try but some would accept being lynched and hope the votes on themselves would garner suspicion (as it is now with soj death).

No beef with Falzis. He is merely a suspect until I see more compelling reasons to look elsewhere.

[CanucksDynasty]

I'm surprised to hear you say that when I still don't have a vote registered for Falzis.
I'm just not exactly clear on the reasoning against Falzis.
I understand that we learn those things from lynching him but, whats the rationale for lynching him in the first place?

Not sure what you are getting at.
I never said you voted for Falzis. You voted for soj (the 5th vote).

Lynching Falzis gives me some info (at least it does to me) as I stated in my previous post.

[Aquinas]

I agree, I think lynching him gives some very important information.

I just meant, your vote still leans towards Sir Jesus when I am the only one in disagreement with you about Falzis (Although I am not to strongly convinced about my position either). I'm glad to have built up at least a small amount more confidence with you than Sir Jesus.