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[CanucksDynasty]

I agree, I think lynching him gives some very important information.

I just meant, your vote still leans towards Sir Jesus when I am the only one in disagreement with you about Falzis (Although I am not to strongly convinced about my position either). I'm glad to have built up at least a small amount more confidence with you than Sir Jesus.

Technically I haven't voted yet.

The people I suspect are Falzis, Kaziocore, and SJ at the moment.
Actually you were never on my radar.
That EDWOP I made was to outline the possibilities that I think exist.

VOTE COUNT
Kaziocore (1): Martino
Falzis (1): KevinH

Not Voting (8): Theophilos, Nerau, Sir Jesus, CanucksDynasty, Electric Mango, Falzis, Kaziocore, Aquinas

- Falzis will be V/LA until July 11th.
- Nerau still needs replacing. Anyone knows someone / anyone dead wants to do it, shoot me off a PM.

Edited by molestargazer, 06 July 2009 - 09:47 PM.
Vote count

[CanucksDynasty]

Might as well name two my self: Falzis and EM (I promissed a FoS - well here it is ...).

I'm not gonna repeat everything about Falzis ... the fact that sojourner died just additionally confirmes my suspicions, I had a hunch about EM 'cause of all the support he was giving Falzis, that hunch is now a FoS.

@Theo - actually can you repost why you FOS Falzis and EM? I tried to find it but every so often I get a 403 error message in these forums. Makes it hard to go back and read past posts. Thanks, CD.

[Electric Mango]

How people responded to my questions on who they thought were scummy (out of the people who lynched soj).
CD - Falzis, Kaziocore, SJ
Theophiles - Falzis, EM
EM - Falzis, SJ
Aquinas - SJ, KevinH
Kaziocore - Falzis, EM
KevinH - Falzis, EM
Martino - Falzis, Kaziocore
SJ - Falzis, Kaziocore

Not sure what you are getting at.
I never said you voted for Falzis. You voted for soj (the 5th vote).

Lynching Falzis gives me some info (at least it does to me) as I stated in my previous post.

He's saying that he didn't list Falzis as one of the top two suspects who voted for Sojourner.

I'm pretty sure that at least one or two scum voted for Sojourner as well but I hope we don't just narrow our search down to those that did. I'm sure the scum did not throw all of their eggs in one basket.

The first day we didn't learn anything and the pressure was on to lynch someone on day 2. Soj did have the strongest case against him at that time and as the end of the day drew near that's when the votes started to pile on. I'm sure there were quite a few townies that felt compelled to vote for someone. By that time it was mostly down to just Falzis and Sojourner (although KevinH was in the running for a while). Sojourner did look to be the better lynch candidate. If enough townies jumped on then the scum wouldn't have had to vote.

Also it's still possible that Falzis and Sojourner were both townies. In that case the scum could easily just sit back and watch the town vote each other off. Our day 2 felt a lot more like day 1 because hardly anyone voted during the first day.

[CanucksDynasty]

@EM - you are entirely correct in that it is still possible that Falzis is a townie. I have some thoughts about that but will wait to share it once Falzis returns and see what he has to say.

Now...focusing on why Narsis was targeted.
Looking back he made various votes on Nerau and KevinH.
When it looked like Nerau was being replaced...he changed his vote.
Is it possible that he had his eye on Nerau and that was why he was nk?

FOS: Nerau

[Electric Mango]

@EM - you are entirely correct in that it is still possible that Falzis is a townie. I have some thoughts about that but will wait to share it once Falzis returns and see what he has to say.

Now...focusing on why Narsis was targeted.
Looking back he made various votes on Nerau and KevinH.
When it looked like Nerau was being replaced...he changed his vote.
Is it possible that he had his eye on Nerau and that was why he was nk?

FOS: Nerau

I have my own wild theory about Nerau that I'll share since you brought him up. The nk scene mentioned there were two killers. What if there were 3 mafia (as most vets would say is about the right amount) but since Nerau was inactive Mole didn't include him in the write up. Nerau could be the mafia godfather and when he didn't send in his night action it went to the 2nd goon in charge and Mole wrote the scene using only the two active goons?

[molestargazer]

ACTIVITY
Theophilos - Inactive
Nerau - SEEKING REPLACEMENT (Help!)
Sir Jesus - Active
CanucksDynasty - Active
Electric Mango - Active
Martino - Active
Falzis - V/LA
Kaziocore - Active
KevinH - Active
Aquinas - Active

A prod is being sent to Theophilos. Otherwise, activity is good.

Edited by molestargazer, 06 July 2009 - 09:48 PM.

[KevinH]

i'll actually be leaving this afternoon so i either need to get replaced or i'll be V/LA or whatever.

My theory why Narsis was targeted:

The scum was doing mole a favor.
Narsis was going inactive and it didn't matter much to the scum whom they killed.

[Electric Mango]

My theory why Narsis was targeted:

The scum was doing mole a favor.
Narsis was going inactive and it didn't matter much to the scum whom they killed.

I don't see why scum would want to kill someone inactive though. It would favor the scum to go after the active players IMO. Inactive players wouldn't be much of a threat to the scum. I believe that there were other motives at play, similar to what CD suggested.

[Theophilos]

A bit late this time round ... sorry about that Mole ...

CD I'll post my thoughts from D1 and D2 later today 'cause it's 2am here and I'm really not up to searching for it now.

Do my biggest reason was that Falzis was using what is considered to be (more times than not) a pro-town style of playing (lots of exposure, etc.) to confuse and/or mislead other people in the game (most particularly the rather large number of newbies).

Which reminds me VOTE: Falzis ... I haven't changed my mind about him yet, I still think he's our best bet for scum.

EM - my FOS for him goes back to the support and "appologies" given to/for Falzis. I think his help always took just enough pressure off Falzis to allow him to "escape". Mind U it's only a FoS for now, 'cause I still need to re-read a couple of things.

# of scum in this game, I'd say three sounds good ... do I can't yet decide on the third person.

[CanucksDynasty]

A bit late this time round ... sorry about that Mole ...

CD I'll post my thoughts from D1 and D2 later today 'cause it's 2am here and I'm really not up to searching for it now.

Do my biggest reason was that Falzis was using what is considered to be (more times than not) a pro-town style of playing (lots of exposure, etc.) to confuse and/or mislead other people in the game (most particularly the rather large number of newbies).

Which reminds me VOTE: Falzis ... I haven't changed my mind about him yet, I still think he's our best bet for scum.

EM - my FOS for him goes back to the support and "appologies" given to/for Falzis. I think his help always took just enough pressure off Falzis to allow him to "escape". Mind U it's only a FoS for now, 'cause I still need to re-read a couple of things.

# of scum in this game, I'd say three sounds good ... do I can't yet decide on the third person.

Thanks for the recap.

[CanucksDynasty]

I have my own wild theory about Nerau that I'll share since you brought him up. The nk scene mentioned there were two killers. What if there were 3 mafia (as most vets would say is about the right amount) but since Nerau was inactive Mole didn't include him in the write up. Nerau could be the mafia godfather and when he didn't send in his night action it went to the 2nd goon in charge and Mole wrote the scene using only the two active goons?

That's a bit far-fetched. I don't think mole would use inactivity in the story-line. BUT maybe the story goes to the 2 goons carrying out the order of the godfather.

Any ideas why junk was nk on N1? Just wondering cuz so many vets (Martino, KevinH, EM) are still alive and kicking in this game...kinda makes me think 1 or 2 of the vets are scum.

[Electric Mango]

Any ideas why junk was nk on N1? Just wondering cuz so many vets (Martino, KevinH, EM) are still alive and kicking in this game...kinda makes me think 1 or 2 of the vets are scum.

I was thinking the same thing, why kill Junk on Day 1? Either we have a lot of veterans as scum or a lot of newbies that don't know better and just went for the person with the most activity. There's no way nobody knew Junkahoolic was the cop.

[CanucksDynasty]

I was thinking the same thing, why kill Junk on Day 1? Either we have a lot of veterans as scum or a lot of newbies that don't know better and just went for the person with the most activity. There's no way nobody knew Junkahoolic was the cop.

IF it's by actvity...then I blame KevinH and you. KevinH (I think) for the post count. And you for saying more active = power role.

[Electric Mango]

IF it's by actvity...then I blame KevinH and you. KevinH (I think) for the post count. And you for saying more active = power role.

I didn't say that for the record. I said this ..........(POST 176)

However, there are experienced players out there who say the opposite. Some say that those with power roles (doc, cop, mafia, sk, etc) do more posting than others. They claim that the increased responsibiltiy is what drives them back to the thread more than those with just vanilla roles.

[CanucksDynasty]

I didn't say that for the record. I said this ..........(POST 176)

Close enough.

[CanucksDynasty]

Since Falzis won't be back anytime soon...I will add some pressure on the ones I suspect.

Vote: Kaziocore

[KevinH]

Any ideas why junk was nk on N1? Just wondering cuz so many vets (Martino, KevinH, EM) are still alive and kicking in this game...kinda makes me think 1 or 2 of the vets are scum.

Ah, the ol' "if a vet is alive, he must be scum" argument.

I don't put much faith in that because it's prone to WIFOM. Scum can leave the vets alive and then they'll be lynched because they are alive.

[KevinH]

I would also add that CanucksDynasty is as much a vet as anyone ...

[CanucksDynasty]

I would also add that CanucksDynasty is as much a vet as anyone ...

Yes I am a vet...however...the difference being is that I am replacing a role that was previously replaced.

[Electric Mango]

Close enough.

Not close enough for my book but I'll compromise and just say that we agree to disagree.

Yes I am a vet...however...the difference being is that I am replacing a role that was previously replaced.

You still could have been night killed last night but were not. You also have the most wins out of anyone here I might add. That would put a pretty big target on your back according to your own reasoning.

Since Falzis won't be back anytime soon...I will add some pressure on the ones I suspect.

Vote: Kaziocore

I agree with CD, it's time to turn up the heat.

Vote: Sir Jesus

For reasons already mentioned