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[KevinH]

Unvote: Robert2424

 

I'll give the benefit of the doubt for now.

 

Vote: iSocialism

 

He was the other player voting for Yehom in an attempt to save Canik.

[The Warrior]

Vote Count

 

iSocialism (1): KevinH

Wolfpacks (1): Robert2424

Chaplain of Death (0):

KevinH (0):

Kitkat16 (0):

Rhizoctonia (0):

Robert2424 (0):

SeaBeeGipson (0):

Sister Midnight (0):

Yehom (0):

 

No Lynch (0):

 

Not Voting: Chaplain of Death, iSocialism, Kitkat16, Rhizoctonia, SeaBeeGipson, Sister Midnight, Wolfpacks, Yehom

 

With 10 alive it takes 5 to lynch or 3 at deadline.

Deadline is 12:00pm CST on Wednesday, February 22nd.

 

[Sister Midnight]

I'm waiting for Wolfpacks and SM to enlighten us on the 'results' that Robert posted, because to be frank, those could have been easily faked. It's to convenient that he so happen to have checked Kevin who is guaranteed visited by Finster, SM who called him out on the Wolfpacks vote and Wolfpacks himself who Robert is accusing based on his 'motion detection'. The only thing you can conclude on those results if they are even real, is that either Wolfpacks did something or someone did something to Wolfpacks. That's a 50/50 at best on whether Wolfpacks is scum or not

Robert's result on me was correct.

I am having some health issues and I have a lot on my plate suddenly. I don't know how this will effect my game play, or my activity on the forum yet, but I'm giving a heads up now.

Currently Yehom is at top of my scum list. ATM. Nothing has changed in that regard.

[Rhizoctonia]

I say we let Finster Baby speak from the dead.
He was voting for Canik, now everyone should vote for Canik.

I agree with your statement that we should let FB speak from the dead, but not your deduction.

So lets hear what FB said. Relevant parts highlighted.

If you lynch me you're making a mistake. And that's all I will say about that.

I won't even OMGUS vote for you.

My short list for the town:
Imran
Kevin - I'm pretty sure about this one.
SM
Yehom

Could go either way
Kitkat
Canik
Robert (until I hear more of your RC)
Wolfpacks
CoD

Might be scum
Rhizo
SBG
iSoc

I don't really have a lot to go by - some posting has been lacking.

If I go with inactives, iSoc and SBG are the 2 with the least posts, with CoD and Wolfpacks next. Wolfpacks has stated he has RL issues with access going on, so he gets a pass.

I've stated previously that Rhizo's couple of posts have me concerned about his alignment. Not much more I can say.

So, unless another post comes with a RC, this is where I'm going:

VOTE: SBG

Subject to change if further info is forthcoming from him.

Yehom: I only voted for him so I at least voted for someone. Don't mean to come across as flip-floppy, but it does.

I may still switch to Robert, because the more I read his posts, the more I get a bitter taste in my mouth about it. Sure, anyone can claim to have a night action without RC'ing. Its along the lines of attempting a fake RC hoping nobody will notice.

I'm going to take a calculated risk here - to those considering me for a lynch, while I will absolutely claim town and that I'm actively scum seeking, I do see how some of what I said can be suspicious. I ask you to consider letting me live 1 additional day.

From the above it is pretty clear that he used his first action on you (kevinh) and found you town. He also indicated he had one more action left.

So what do we get from the above two posts.

1. He investigated kevin and found him town.
2. He was not able to id any scum with his first action.
3. He made the humongous mistake of revealing he has a very powerful action and that he should be allowed to live another day to use it.
4. Who can potentially claim something like that? Doc? Tracker? Follower? Roleblocker? Nope. None has actions that are strong enough to give concrete information to town by use of only one night. It could have only been a cop who could make that claim. This reveal was a huge mistake by FB.
4. Scum picked up on that reveal and knew very well he cannot be allowed to live another night and reveal his results. He would have been targetted for kill at night, I am 100 % sure.
5. But they saw an opportunity early. They saw he already had 2 votes on him and time is running out. They decided to take out the cop when they had the chance and not take the risk of the cop being protected at night. So they decided to go for the kill immediately.

From above we can deduce Canik has 80% chance of being scum, Yehom has 70% chance of being scum and both Yehom Canik has a high probability of both being scum.

We lynch Canik today and Yehom tomoroow. I can guarantee you town will lynch at least 1 scum amongst those 2.

Vote: Canik

[Robert2424]

The smear job continues from yehom.

[Yehom]

You can't honestly tell me that is all coincidence. What was your reasoning on using your PR on Kevin, SM and Wolfpacks?

[Kitkat16]

Based on Imran's post:

 

Vote: Yehom

[Robert2424]

You can't honestly tell me that is all coincidence. What was your reasoning on using your PR on Kevin, SM and Wolfpacks?

well, I've never had this role. So n1 I targeted Kevin as I figured if anybody was going too be visited. I was hoping to see (you detected outgoing actions, or incoming). But I now know that I'm going to get "motion detected" and "no motion detected". So for the following night I decided to probe people who I thought were unlikely to be visited by others. So, I looked down the list and ranked them for each night. It's the only use I could find for the power. Would you have visited other people yehom? If so why.

[Yehom]

I'm not saying i would have used your powers on different people, i'm saying it's too much of a coincidence that you detected the only person that we know for sure is town, the person that asked you specifically why you voted for someone and the person that you voted for. To me that seems too convenient that specifically those 3 people were detected by you

[Robert2424]

Detected by me? I select one person per night phase. I selected Kevin night 1 (motion detected). Sister midnight night 2 (no motion detected). Night 3 wolfpacks (motion detected). That's all the info I get. I can only detect if a night action is used on or by my target. Your post makes me think you don't understand my power. It's very situational. I wouldn't use it in one of my games.

[Yehom]

I know what your power does, the word detecting doesn't cover your actions properly, but it's the verb that I'm using to discribe your powers as you are a motion detector

[Wolfpacks]

how exactly did you detect motion from me, i havent even been active, im only on here today as its the weekend, seems like a little leading here 

[Robert2424]

how exactly did you detect motion from me, i havent even been active, im only on here today as its the weekend, seems like a little leading here 

I select 1 player. I detect any night action involving that play if any .

[SeaBeeGipson]

So, Robert's claim doesnt confirm or deny anyone on whether they are scum or not. His powers mean they could've used a scum action or had scum target them. Not much to go off of there but his analysis on SM was right, so I see no dangerous harm in seeing how his role (if real) plays out.

As for Yehom, his points seem to be reaching in my opinion. They do make sense, where he states that Robert's claim on Wolfpacks doesn't confirm or deny him being scum. It did make me feel a little uneasy towards WP but with scum having investigation roles in previous HP games; it isn't too much of a red flag at this point. But it is noted.

Another concern is we are looking at FB and Imran's post pretty closely. FB listed Yehom (despite being Day 2) as most likely town, whereas Imran listed him as scum.

I'm not going to defend Yehom, I have zero reason to, and honestly, his behavior seems targetted at Robert after his RC.

I want to spend more time (I'll have more time this weekend) looking for hints towards the 3rd scum. At this point, in my opinion, I feel we are looking at a Canik, Yehom, Wolfpacks scum team. But, there isn't enough concrete proof for me and several possible twists that could be throwing us off.

Either way, going off of Robert's claim, the easiest path would be to vote Wolfpacks. However, I'm more interested in this Yehom/Robert disagreement that is developing. Also, I just don't see enough from anyone else to give me a red flag (for now) to cast a vote.

VOTE Yehom

[Robert2424]

Unfortunately that's really the only thing going on. A few of people are being quiet.
I'm trying to determine what wolf pack she is trying to say. He pointing towards his inactivity, but I'm not sure if he attempting to say he's too inactive to submit a night action or what.

[Sister Midnight]

Unfortunately that's really the only thing going on. A few of people are being quiet. I'm trying to determine what wolf pack she is trying to say. He pointing towards his inactivity, but I'm not sure if he attempting to say he's too inactive to submit a night action or what.

I'm afraid I don't understand what you said here.

Based on his role claim and correct remarks about detecting me, Robert is leaning town. Yehom's remarks seem somewhat convoluted and his aggressiveness gives me even more of a scum vibe. I don't want to lynch prematurely, but if the day was about yo end, he'd have my vote.

[Robert2424]

Partaily a response to sbg, and trying to understand Wolfpacks only post this game. I put my thoughts out in the open all the time. That way even if I fell I don't have much to contribute, at least my thoughts are out there. Kind of like talking to myself

[KevinH]

It's easy for scum to lay low.

 

It might be time to chase inactives.

[Yehom]

My apologies for the very late response. I'm going to write something tomorrow as my weekend was very busy

[KevinH]

For the whole game:

46 Robert2424
40 Sister Midnight
38 Kitkat16
33 KevinH
27 Yehom
17 Rhizoctonia
13 SeaBeeGipson
12 Wolfpacks
11 iSocialism
11 Chaplain of death