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[Rhizoctonia]

Rhizo - We did decide last game that inactives were intolerable - especially those who played the way Rafay did.

However, D34TH was usually active, so if he's not here something's up. That said, we can't have an inactive not helping the town, IMO.

Zero posts = bad, esp on Day 1 where we muss about having fun throwing OMGUS accusations.

 

 

 

 

I don't know what game you're speaking about on last game.  I've played in all the Harry Potter games, so if you're talking about that one, the last one had 3 inactives at one point.  Also, the talk and "decision" about inactives being intolerable has been going on for many games, to the point many said if Rafay wasn't active he'd be voted off D1, and in fact people like Kevin still wouldn't vote him off.  So this isn't something new, the tolerance of inactives and getting rid of them early has been talked about and supposedly decided way before last game.  Yet no one ever does it, and lynching a complete inactive like D34th is a lot less intriguing then lynching the likes of someone like Rafay who lurked and was inactive on purpose.  

 

Yea something could be up.  So look to find a replacement.  For someone like Kevin who always says "no one knows anything D1," and thus always votes NL, I don't see his need to suddenly be so quick to vote off the inactive.  If he plays this game like any other, he'd be spitting out the same old stuff of there's a good chance we'd knock off a town D1 and to wait, so why now a rush to vote him off?  If the same applied to how he played in other games, he'd be fearing that D34th is possibly a town, and thus he'd wait to see if he returned D2, or a replacement was found.  But not this game

 

Zero posts are bad.  But I fail to see how it's "esp" bad on D1.  The day you even mentioned is throwing OMGUS accusations, and mostly fluff, for someone to not post anything, D1 would be not the best day to have someone not post then later on.

 

Now Kevin is pushed into the spotlight. Going to reread Rhizo last post again. But Rhizo is making a interesting move late Day 1. 

 

 

I had no intention of putting Kevin in such the spotlight I have.  I merely wanted to point out how Kevin is playing D1 completely opposite of how he usually does.  It was simply, hmm this is different, but still felt it odd for him to change his play if he was truely a scum.  But then he decided to reply and basically dispute that he's not doing a complete 180 on what he usually does on D1 which he is.  Had he just replied that he's changed his thought process and his feelings on lynching D1 I would of probably dismissed it.  All for people playing the game different, but he didn't say that, he instead tried to dispute that he always pushs for a lynch of inactives....which maybe the case in later days, but he's always voted NL D1, no matter how inactive a person is, so this game shouldn't be different.

Simple fact is, it's odd of Kevin to suddenly be ok lynching an inactive D1.  There has been all but inactive players, the likes of Rafay posting 1 time D1 (which was of no substance) and Kevin wasn't for lynching and rather wait til D2.  We've had the likes of 1ceream who never posted in games and sat there. You can sit here and dispute well Rafay posted once and D34th hasn't at all, but what is the difference of Rafay posting once early on D1 and not contributing anymore (who also did this every game) and d34th not posting once.  If Kevin played this game like he has any game I've played with him, he'd still not be for lynching D1 because "no one knows anything," and "likely to knock off a town," and he'd wait til D2 for PR's to use their powers and so on.  What's the big rush to lynch D34th this game?  If Kevin stuck to his normal play, and D34th wasn't lynched, that would in fact give TW a few more days to find a replacement, with the rest of D1, and during the scum's night time.   If you're finding waiting til D2 to lynch any other game, what does having an inactive change that?

I always look to replace rather then lynch true inactives (not lurkers), but wouldn't be against the idea depending on circumstance.  This is not against the idea of lynching inactives, it's the fact Kevin is going against anything he's ever said in prior games of being bad to lynch someone D1 because "only scum no anything," he's not voted off regular inactives like Rafay D1,  and him trying to argue that he's somehow pushed lynching inactives D1.  That combined with the fact in past games he would write off people trying to vote off an inactive like Rafay as suspicious doing so on D1 when we don't know anything and he didn't post to give us any idea, and give "town points" to people who voted NL because that's "what a town would do."  To the point I have had arguments with how he looks at D1 with him in past games.  He's going completely against what he's ever said.

So then I ask everyone, why?

 

Why would he suddenly change his tone to be completely opposite of what he's always said for as long as I've played with him?  Why this game?  Why suddenly not wait til D2 to lynch an inactive person like tells people to do, and instead do it D1?  Thus I start pondering this.  It would be odd to change if you're scum, since you'd have someone like me point it out and draw attention....but then again it could be helpful because we could all sit here and say, "yea a scum wouldn't change his game from usual," so we let him off.  Or, a smart move as a scum would be, if both Kevin and d34th were scum, and Kevin knows D34th is inactive and useless to scum, he and other scum can toss him under the bus early on to make them look townish for being on a scum vote.  

 

I don't know if Kevin is scum, but at this point, if I had to choose my best gut feeling, it would be him. 

[KevinH]

Rafay has played some games where he's been active and I have been hoping he'd get back to that.

Basically, I give the benefit of the doubt and with 1 or 2 posts in the first few real-life days of the game, there might be an improvement.

With zero posts since mid-December for d34th, I'm not too optimistic.

Yes, I would prefer to get a replacement, but I'm not too optimistic about that either.

[Robert2424]

I'm not saying its a bad thing. It's creating good conversation

[Finster Baby]

Based on how hard it was to get participants for this game, a replacement will be difficult at best, tho I hope TW is working on it.

Rhizo: My bad, should have clarified it was the C9 game Kevin ran before this one started.

With zero posts in the week or so this game has been running, sorry, while I normally advocate NL, D34TH has to go. If he even posts today, I'll switch.

Not hopeful.

[Yehom]

I don't know what to make of the 'witch hunt' on Kevin. Yes I've seen the overwhelming evidence that he's always been a D1 NL advocate, but isn't it possible for people to play differently every once and a while? For now I think Death should just be lynched for pure inactivity. We can deal with Kevin later as more information comes in so we can access why he's playing now as he is

[The Warrior]

Just so you all know:

 

D34TH has not responded to, nor read any of my messages. I have pm'd a couple replacement candidates and have not heard back from them either.

[Sister Midnight]

Can we extend end of day to give the replacements a chance to respond?

If so and I'm not around I'd like to vote NL, otherwise I'll keep my vote as is.

[Imran Ehsan]

Gonna backup kevin here.

 

In previous games normally there were replacements on standby or those who signed up for a game were at least active in game. In this case, this game took almost a month to start up and d34th has been inactive in-game for over 3 weeks. Its pretty safe to say this has never happened before in previous games (i.e. there was always a chance that someone who had signed up for the game would probably show up later, bc they were active at least in-game).

 

So, kevin going against his normal style of play for this game is absolutely justified. And I dont think he would have started playing differently if he was scum, but tha remains to be seen.

 

In any case Lynching is always good. I dont believe in relying on the cop to give townies info to lynch scum. I like analysisng voting trends when someone gets lynched. And I am already getting some interesting vibes from some people due to this lynch wagon.

 

@kitkat - is this the first game you are playing?

[The Warrior]

I have replaced D34THBR1NG3R! iSocialism will be filling in effective immediately.

 

Just a reminder: Deadline is in ~2.5 hours @ 1:00pm CST. Please act accordingly.

Current Vote Count:

 

 

Vote Count

 

iSocialism (5): Imran Ehsan, Yehom, KevinH, Sister Midnight, Finster Baby

KevinH (2): SeaBeeGipson, Rhizoctonia

Canik (0):

Chaplain of Death (0):

Finster Baby (0):

Imran Ehsan (0):

Kitkat16 (0):

Rhizoctonia (0):

Robert2424 (0):
SeaBeeGipson (0):

Sister Midnight (0):

Wolfpacks (0):

Yehom (0):

 

No Lynch (2): Wolfpacks, Kitkat16

 

Not Voting: Canik, Chaplain of Death, iSocialism, Robert2424

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch or 4 at deadline.
Deadline is 1:00pm CST on Tuesday, January 24th.   

[Yehom]

Unvote

 

Vote: No Lynch

 

Now we're cooking with gas

[Sister Midnight]

Unvote

 

Vote: No Lynch

 

Now we're cooking with gas

That.

 

UNVOTE

VOTE: No lynch

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch or 4 at deadline. Deadline is 1:00pm CST on Tuesday, January 24th.

 

That should bring us to 4 NL votes.  If we weren't in danger of lynching iSoc, I might have just not voted at all, but we can't risk lynching him due to inactivity.  I have not firmly decided lynching on D1 is good or bad.

[Finster Baby]

UNVOTE

VOTE: No Lynch

Good thing I checked my PMs.

[iSocialism]

I come to replace death, and bring life to his character.... I will need time to read up.

[iSocialism]

Well, that was actually pretty easy. Unfortunately much of the talk was about lynching or not lynching my character under death control. Even though I advocate for lynching most of the time on d1. With only 2 hours left I'm not goi g to vote, nor do I want an extension for this day.

[Wolfpacks]

im sticking with my vote as i usally do on D1

[The Warrior]

Vote Count

iSocialism (2): Imran Ehsan, KevinH

KevinH (2): SeaBeeGipson, Rhizoctonia

Canik (0):

Chaplain of Death (0):

Finster Baby (0):

Imran Ehsan (0):

Kitkat16 (0):

Rhizoctonia (0):

Robert2424 (0):
SeaBeeGipson (0):

Sister Midnight (0):

Wolfpacks (0):

Yehom (0):

No Lynch (5): Wolfpacks, Kitkat16, Yehom, Sister Midnight, Finster Baby

 

Not Voting: Canik, Chaplain of Death, iSocialism, Robert2424

 

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch or 4 at deadline.
Deadline is 1:00pm CST on Tuesday, January 24th. 

[The Warrior]

The group landed in a bit of a daze as they waited for their spinning heads to catch up to them. Arthur Weasley composed himself and walked over to two tired looking wizards nearby who pointed towards a field in the distance. Mr. Weasley shook Amos Diggory's hand and beckoned the rest of the Weasley's, Harry, and Hermione to follow him down the hill.

As they approached the field that they had been directed to, a muggle man named Mr. Roberts approached them and asked Mr. Weasley for his reservation papers. He pulled the papers out of his pocket and handed them to Mr. Roberts. As he examined the reservation he started talking about how unusual it was that so many campsite reservations had been made out of the blue on his property. He started to wonder what sort of gathering this actually was. A moment later there was a loud POP as a wizard appeared right behind Mr. Roberts, pointed his wand at him and said "Obliviate!" Mr. Roberts handed the reservation back to Mr. Weasley and directed them toward their campsite without another question.

They marched over the crest of the next hill where a tremendous site awaited them. Hundreds of tents were lined in rows stretching off into the distance against the backdrop of a large forest. Thousands of wizards, some donning green and others donning maroon, dotted the landscape.As they walked through the crowd they saw several of their Hogwarts schoolmates including fellow Gryffindors Dean Thomas and Seamus Finnigan. When they reached their campsite, Harry helped Mr. Weasley set up the tents which were terribly small on the outside but massive on the inside.

As they settled down to eat, Ludo Bagman, Head of the Department of Magical Sports and Games, wandered over and asked Mr. Weasley if he had any interest in placing a wager on the match. Fred and George lit up and jumped up to speak with Mr. Bagman. They bet 37 Galleons on Ireland winning but on Bulgaria's Seeker, Viktor Krum, to catch the snitch. Mr. Bagman smiled as he gladly accepted their long-shot of a bet. A stiff, upright, elderly man, walked over to join them. This time it was Percy who jumped to his feet and hurried over to shake Barty Crouch's (his boss) hand and offer him a cup of tea.

"Oh.. yes. Thank you Weatherby," Mr. Crouch responded. Fred and George snickered at Percy's "beloved" boss not even knowing his name.

Ludo Bagman and Barty Crouch began discussing something. Mr. Bagman kept dropping hints about another upcoming event: "Still, it's not as though we haven't got anything to look forward to, eh, Barty? Eh?" Mr. Crouch silenced him and told him not to discuss classified information about this mysterious event any further.

The excitement about the World Cup continued to build as the afternoon went on. Harry, Ron, and Hermione walked the entire campsite and browsed all of the vendor's booths. Harry bought three sets of expensive Omnioculars and gave one each to Ron and Hermione for the match. The Omnioculars could replay action, slow everything down, and even flash up a play-by-play breakdown of the game.

As the sun set over the camp, Mr. Weasley told them all that it was time to head to the match and they made their way through the forest. A 15-minute walk into the thick forest trees revealed a large clearing where a massive stadium stood. Witches and wizards were pouring out of the trees on all sides talking excitedly as they made their into the stadium.

Mr. Weasley led the group up to a large box at the top of the stadium. The box was empty when they entered except for one seat occupied for a small house-elf that looked exactly like Dobby. The little elf was Mr. Crouch's elf named Winky. Harry spoke to the little elf for a minute until the Minister of Magic himself, Cornelius Fudge, entered accompanied by the Bulgarian Minister of Magic. Fudge greeted Harry and then welcomed another family into the box. Lucius Malfoy followed by his wife Narcissa and son Draco entered the box. Harry, Hermione, and Ron exchanged a few words with Draco Malfoy before the match festivities began.

Music blared loudly throughout the stadium as a group of veela made their way onto the pitch. The veela were very gorgeous women. Harry and Ron were enchanted immediately as they watched the veela through their Omnioculars. Hermione and Ginny scoffed as they looked around the box and saw that every man there was watching them intently. Harry and Ron snapped out of their trance after the veela dance as a group of leprechauns zoomed around the field raining gold on the crowd and doing an Irish jig in the air.

After the dance, the Irish Quidditch team zoomed out of the tunnel below and flew onto the field. Giant green shamrocks danced across the sky behind them. The shamrocks remained until a blur of maroon covered the pitch. The Bulgarian team had emerged and dazzled the crowd with their flying skill. The stadium was filled with chants of "KRUM! KRUM! KRUM!" as Viktor Krum, the Bulgarian Seeker, darted around the pitch.

The teams finally congregated in a circle above the center of the pitch and the referee walked onto the center of the field. The Snitch was released and the match was on! The teams were so highly skilled and fast that it was difficult to keep up with the action at times. The Irish Chasers were incredibly organized in their offensive formation and were really taking it to Bulgaria early. Before anyone knew it Ireland had already scored seven times and led the match 70-0. As impressive as Ireland's attack was, it was Viktor Krum that had the crowd buzzing. His flying skill was incredible as he zigged and zagged and darted around the field in search of the Snitch. Ireland's Seeker, Aidan Lynch, couldn't keep up with him.

At one point Krum darted toward the ground at an incredible speed and Irish Seeker followed. Right before hitting the ground, Krum pulled up, but the Lynch slammed into the turf. He climbed to his feet clearly dazed. Nonetheless, he spotted a glint of gold darting through the air. The Snitch! Lynch jumped back onto his broom and streaked after it. The score was already 170-10 in favor of the Irish and it appeared to be getting worse. Krum knew that things weren't getting any better so he darted after the Snitch as well. Krum quickly gained on Lynch because he was faster. He passed him, hand stretched out in front of him, and his fingers closed around the golden ball.

"THE MATCH IS OVER! THE MATCH IS OVER! KRUM HAS CAUGHT THE SNITCH BUT IRELAND WINS!!!" Ludo Bagman's voice called over the stadium as the Irish supporters cheered wildly. The scene in the stadium was crazy. The leprechauns zoomed through the air with streaks of green tailing them and fireworks shaped like clovers exploded in the night sky over the pitch.

Fred and George had huge smiles on their faces as they walked over to Mr. Bagman to collect their winnings. Mr. Weasley warned them not let their mother know that they had been gambling. The witches and wizards poured out of the stadium and into the surrounding woods as they made their way back to their campsites. The Irish fans were going crazy shooting off fireworks, cheering and singing, and enjoying large mugs full of Butterbeer. Even the leprechauns would occasionally zoom overhead in celebration.

After several hours of enjoying the scenery and celebrations, Mr. Weasley ushered the Weasley's, Harry, and Hermione into the tent for bed. As exciting as the evening was, they all also woke up very early and were getting tired. Harry laid down on his bunk and closed his eyes.

"HARRY! HARRY! WAKE UP! NO TIME HARRY! JUST GRAB A JACKET AND GET OUTSIDE -- QUICKLY!" Mr. Weasley shouted.



Vote Count

No Lynch (5): Wolfpacks, Kitkat16, Yehom, Sister Midnight, Finster Baby

It is now night 1. Please PM any night actions to me in your personal role PM by 1:00pm CST on Thursday, January 26th.

[The Warrior]

Harry did as he was told. He rolled out of bed, threw on his jacket, and grabbed his wand off the bedside table. There were people screaming outside. Harry hurried out of the tent opening and joined the rest of the Weasleys who were looking panicked. Some people were running away from their tents screaming while some others were frantically looking for separated loved ones, and others were hastily grabbing as many of their belongings as they could carry in two arms.

 

Harry turned around and saw what was causing the chaos. A group of hooded people with masks were marching together through the camp setting tents on fire and destroying everything in their path. High above the hooded crowd four people floated through the air. It was the muggle campsite owner Mr. Roberts, his wife, and their two children. The people in the masks laughed as the Roberts family screamed in terror.

 

Mr. Weasley quickly addressed his family group. "Fred, George, Ron, Harry, and Hermione, find some place to hide and look after Ginny!" Arthur Weasley and the three eldest Weasley brothers (Bill, Charlie, and Percy) drew their wands and joined the other ministry officials trying to get the crowd under control.

 

Harry, Hermione, and the rest of the Weasley's quickly made their way into the forest to hide. As they reached the treeline they came across Draco Malfoy.

 

"Granger, they're after muggles! Do you want to be showing off your knickers in midair?" Malfoy cackled.

 

Harry and Ron started after Malfoy. Hermione grabbed their jackets and pulled them along with her before they could get to him. They looked around for Fred, George, and Ginny but they couldn't see them anywhere. They hurried into the woods but couldn't see anything because it was so dark. They all reached for their wands. Ron and Hermione muttered "Lumos" and a beam of light erupted from each of their wands. Harry frantically patted his jacket pockets but he could not find his wand. "My wand is gone!" He told Ron and Hermione. 

 

The bushes next to them began shaking violently. Ron and Hermione pointed their wands towards the bushes. As the light from their wands fell across the bush, a frightened little house-elf bursted out. It was Mr. Crouch's house-elf Winky. She was terrified and warned them all to run away because bad things were happening. Winky turned and ran further into the dark forest. Harry, Ron, and Hermione were completely alone now. The screams and commotion from the campsite had been drowned out by the thick forest and was no longer audible. They could hear another noise coming from the darkness, however. Footsteps were coming toward them. Ron and Hermione extinguished the lights from their wands and listened quietly.

 

"MORSMORDRE!"

 

A man's voice shouted in the darkness. Something appeared in the sky above. From their hindered view under the canopy of trees it appeared to be a colossal skull, comprised of what looked like emerald stars, with a serpent protruding from its mouth like a tongue. Several screams went up from the forest nearby as people saw the sign in the sky. Hermione let out a small shriek as she pulled Harry and Ron after her.

 

"It's the Dark Mark!" she gasped. "You-Know-Who's sign!"

 

The three of them made their way into a clearing nearby and got a proper look at the sign emblazoned against the dark sky above.

 

 

All of a sudden several loud pops were heard as at least 20 witches and wizards appeared around them with wands raised. "STUPEFY!" they shouted as they shot red sparks toward Harry, Ron, and Hermione. Harry dropped to the ground and pulled Ron and Hermione down with him to avoid the blast of the spells.

 

"STOP! STOP! THAT'S MY SON!" came Arthur Weasley's voice as he sprinted across the clearing toward the group.

 

Mr. Crouch stepped forward out of the group and confronted them. "Which one of you did it?! Which one of you conjured the mark?!"

 

"We didn't," Harry responded. The other witches and wizards agreed that they were just kids and that it was extremely unlikely that they could conjure the mark. Amos Diggory rushed forward from the group and into the woods nearby to see if their spells had hit anything. He re-emerged a moment later carrying Winky the house-elf who was unconscious. Mr. Crouch looked at his servant with a freaked out look on his face. Winky had a wand clutched in her rigid hand which was against wizarding law and Mr. Diggory concluded that she must have conjured the dark mark. It was Harry's missing wand.

 

Mr. Diggory woke the elf up and confronted her for evidence. She sobbed as she promised that she just picked the wand up on the ground in the forest. He tested the wand in her hand which revealed that it had in fact conjured the dark mark. "You have been caught red-handed elf! Caught with the guilty wand in your hand!" Winky shuddered. Arthur Weasley tried to point out that this little house-elf wouldn't have been able to do the kind of magic required to conjure the mark either.

 

Mr. Crouch angrily butted in: "Perhaps Amos is suggesting that I routinely teach my servants to conjure the Dark Mark."

 

Amos Diggory was flustered and apologized to Crouch. "Of course I don't believe that," he said. They finally agreed that the elf must have picked up the wand after the mark's conjurer had disapparated.

 

Mr. Weasley pulled Harry, Ron, and Hermione away from the clearing and directed them back towards the camp. They re-joined the rest of the Weasley's and explained to them what had happened in the forest with Winky. After several minutes, Ron spoke up: "Will someone please just explain what the skull thing was?"

 

"You-Know-Who and his followers sent the Dark mark into the air whenever they killed someone," Mr. Weasley responded. "It inspired great terror in anyone around. Tonight is the first night the Dark Mark has been cast in thirteen years. The hooded and masked people in the campsite were Death Eaters -- You-Know-Who's followers. They all got away before we could catch any of them."

 

"Why would the Death Eaters run away from the Dark Mark?" Ron asked.

 

"I bet they'd be even more frightened than the rest of us to see Voldemort come back. They denied they'd ever been involved with him when he lost his powers, and went back to their daily lives," Bill Weasley replied.

 

Things had finally calmed down in the camp and order had been restored for the evening. They all managed to turn in for the night.

 

 

 

It is now day two.

 

 

Vote Count

 

Canik (0):

Chaplain of Death (0):

Finster Baby (0):

Imran Ehsan (0):

iSocialism (0):

KevinH (0):

Kitkat16 (0):

Rhizoctonia (0):

Robert2424 (0):

SeaBeeGipson (0):

Sister Midnight (0):

Wolfpacks (0):

Yehom (0):

 

No Lynch (0):

Not Voting: Canik, Chaplain of Death, Finster Baby, Imran Ehsan, iSocialism, KevinH, Kitkat16, Rhizoctonia, Robert2424, SeaBeeGipson, Sister Midnight, Wolfpacks, Yehom

 

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch or 4 at deadline.

Deadline is 1:00pm CST on Thursday, February 2nd.

[Yehom]

Wait what everybody lives? I don't know what to make of it. Either the Doctor saved the right person or scum has screwed up their kill in another fashion. Either way it's safe to say town is playing good so far. Is there any way that scum can 'save' up kills or any other strategic reasons not to kill someone?

[Sister Midnight]

Is the scum always required to do a klll every single night?