If i didn't strongly believe that robert activity is due to RL, I think he would be ahead of EM in my list.

So at this point we have three real options: KitKat, EM, Robert.

 

We need to make a decision so if anyone has comments about the pros or cons of each please share. I'll post more thoughts when I get home this evening.

1. EM: iSoc's arguments hold water pro lynch, but I just have a nagging feeling.

2. KK: D1 actions still weigh heavily pro lynch, him just replacing an inactive gives me pause, tho it shouldn't, scum's scum.

3. Robert: Inactive.

 

I just don't know.

Seeing as nobody is taking up my suggestion of lynching Rafay, I'll go with Robert. It's true he's pretty inactive, and we do need to lynch *someone*.

 

Lynch: Robert

as I have no idea what my activity will be since I go in for ASVAB testing tomarrow. I'm making sure I'm here the night before. 

 

So looking at the choices, my only real choice is EM. KK/Captain just got replaced in and I've been in that position that the slot was under heavy suspicion. So he gets a pass but only today. Plus he's being active. So I don't see anything from Kit Kat personally that screams scum to me. 

 

TBH, rafay or isoc I would consider. But then again, I don't think Finster has actully been scum yet. He's also being a bit indecisive and isn't his normal. Almost like he's being, very careful. 

 

If TW scum, we were in trouble since the beginning. Lets just face it. If I was the cop, I'd investigate him no questions asked, even if it was a one shot ability. 

 

lordsunday seems town. At least at this time. 

 

but since I have nothing concrete, and the day phase ending. EM, isn't very active. I doubt he'll be back before the day ends. He could go either way. 

 

Vote EM

Too careful? That's a first, I'm never careful.

 

I'm just beyond befuddled this particular game, plus RL has me a touch busy.

Addendum: EM and Robert have 2 - one of us can hammer the loser.

I am struggling with the decision of which of the three choices to cast my vote for. I see valid arguments for all three of them and have considered all three of them at some point.

 

At this point we are at:

Electric Mango (2): iSocialism, Robert2424

Robert2424 (2): Rafay, Kitkat16

Kitkat16 (1): LordSunday

 

Here are my thoughts on these three votes:

 

Electric Mango

Has been fairly critical of me throughout the game and has defended Kitkat (captainjf) to an extent. Him focusing on me on day 1 and carrying it into day 2 would seem to me to be a foolish venture for a scum to make since my death would likely turn into his lynch the following day. If EM is scum then one of two things is true: 1) Kitkat is also scum and EM legitimately is trying to cover for him and get it passed off as "Kitkat just took over for captain and provided an adequate defense for me to look elsewhere", or 2) EM knows that both Kitkat and I are town and by defending Kitkat he can appear townish and push for my lynch if I continue to push a Kitkat lynch.

 

iSocialism voting for EM doesn't really deter me from voting in EM's direction since I am still neutral on him and maybe slightly leaning town in my view of him. The fact that Robert is voting for him though gives me some pause since I am slightly suspicious of Robert's activity in the game.

 

Robert2424

Robert's participation in the game has been lacking when compared to games that he is very townie. He is usually one of the more active players and at least attempts to scum hunt throughout the game. This game has felt like a deviation from his normal habits. Most of his posts have been short and haven't added a lot of content to the game overall. He noted the lack in activity in the game and then largely did the same. Yes inactives suck but it is the job of the active players to press those less active people and force them to speak and explain their actions. What really concerns me about Robert now is his vote on EM. At the time when he voted, Robert already had two votes on himself. Could this be a townie trying to present another option to lynch? Sure. But this could also be a desperate scum trying to get a last minute push on another townie that seems relatively suspicious in order to save himself.

 

Having said that, the thing that gives me pause on Robert is the fact that Rafay and Kitkat have voted for him. I was suspicious of Rafay's actions earlier on but am less so now. But it's no secret that I am still keeping a close eye on Kitkat.

 

Kitkat16

I am still suspicious of Kitkat and haven't been given much of a reason to change my mind about him. It's possible that he senses movement in Robert's direction and cast his vote for Robert to give the town another good lynch candidate in place of himself. It's interesting that he chose to vote for Robert instead of EM though. EM has obviously been supportive of Kitkat (captain) throughout the game so there could be something there. If Kitkat is town he could just be assuming EM is town as well for supporting him and then be voting for Robert who he thinks could be scum. Or if Kitkat is scum, EM might be as well so Kitkat is pushing the other likely lynch candidate -- Robert.

 

I am torn on which to vote for.

 

If EM turns out scum, we should look at Kitkat next.

If Robert turns out scum, it's difficult to decide where to look next since he has been mostly out of the spotlight.

If Kitkat turns out scum, we should look at EM or Rafay next.

 

For anyone who hasn't voted yet, please get your thoughts in before 11:00am CST even if you don't vote! We need to hear everyone's opinions on this.

 

At the very least, I certainly hope that our power roles have a good idea of what they want to do / who they want to investigate or protect tonight. If we have a cop, tracker, or jailkeeper I would suggest using your actions on whichever of the above three people is not lynched today.

 

Hopefully others will get thoughts in before deadline. I will try to vote right before the 11:00am CST deadline.

 

Vote Count:

Robert2424 (2): Rafay, Kitkat16,

Electric Mango (2): iSocialism, Robert2424,

Kitkat16 (1): LordSunday,

Rafay (0):

iSocialism (0):

The Warrior (0):

LordSunday (0):

Finster Baby (0):

 

No lynch:

 

Not voting: Finster Baby, Electric Mango, The Warrior,

 

With 8 alive, it takes 5 to lynch, or 3 at deadline.

Deadline is Wednesday, April 5, at 12:00 EDT. ~1.5 hours

 

I'm starting to lean towards Robert a bit, only because of his veiled accusation of me - I know it's barely an FOS but he seems to think the law of averages should apply here and I should be scum - Nice, but inaccurate.

 

I tend to agree with TW on EM and KK. Both arguments make sense to me and I can't really add anything of my own observations to them.

 

I am still torn. However, I think I'm going to go out on a limb here. I may regret this later, however:

 

VOTE: Robert2424

I am certainly keeping an eye on the other two people but since it is now deadline Robert is the only choice.

 

Vote: Robert2424

 

I hope we picked this one right. If not, we absolutely need to pressure everyone tomorrow. It is our last chance. Also note, that Kitkat voted for Robert. Could have been a move to try to save himself.

 

@Town power roles : Please use your power roles wisely tonight! If I am killed, please pay attention to the other two people noted here.

Day 2 ends.

Vote Count:

Robert2424 (3): Rafay, Kitkat16, Finster Baby,
Electric Mango (2): iSocialism, Robert2424,
Kitkat16 (1): LordSunday,
Rafay (0):
iSocialism (0):
The Warrior (0):
LordSunday (0):
Finster Baby (0):

 

No lynch:

 

Not voting: Electric Mango, The Warrior,

 
Robert2424, Vanilla Townie, has been lynched.

 

It is now Night 2.

Please send all actions to me by Friday, April 7, at 12:00 EDT.
 

 

Night 2 ends.

 

LordSunday, Town Cop, has been killed in the night.

 

It is now Day 3.

 

Vote Count:

Electric Mango (0):

Kitkat16 (0):

Rafay (0):

iSocialism (0):

The Warrior (0):

Finster Baby (0):

 

No lynch:

 

Not voting: Electric Mango, The Warrior, Rafay, Kitkat16, Finster Baby, iSocialism,

 

With 6 alive, it takes 4 to lynch, or 2 at deadline.

Deadline is Friday, April 14, at 08:00 EDT.

 

hmm. Town Cop was waxed overnight.

 

I wonder if he knew something about KitKat, since he voted for him.

 

FOS: KitKat16

Will catch up on the days post and have something to say tomorrow.

Well, that sucks that LordSunday was the Cop. He was about the only other confirmed townie in my opinion.

 

Since LordSunday was the Cop that narrows down the possible game setups to two. We either have:

 

- 1 Cop, 6 VT's, and 2 Mafia Goons

or

-1 Cop, 1 Doctor, 5 VT's, 1 Mafia Roleblocker, and 1 Mafia Goon

 

If one of you is a town Doctor then you at least know for sure that we are dealing with a mafia Roleblocker.

 

Today is the day that we HAVE to lynch correctly. A miss-lynch today followed by a scum kill at night ends the game. LordSunday's death may have given us something to go off of. It is entirely possible that LordSunday investigated Kitkat (captainjf) on night 1 due to his behavior on the first day. If I was the cop, that is what I would have done. The fact that LordSunday stayed focused on Kitkat on day 2 when the other two wagons (Robert and EM) were forming leads me to believe that LordSunday did indeed know that Kitkat is scum.

 

I should have gone with my gut yesterday and voted for Kitkat. I will be doing so today unless something even more damning is revealed.

 

Vote: Kitkat16

 

Assuming that Kitkat comes up scum, I believe that my early suspicion could have been right all along. He might have followed his scum partner in voting for me on day 1 without knowing any better. Since the scum do not have day-talk it would mean that one of the only ways he was clued into his mistake (voting for me) would be everyone calling him out for it. I think that Rafay is the second potential scum. He is #2 on my list now.

 

FOS Rafay

 

@Electric Mango and iSocialism: Your thoughts now?

I'm not sure whether I can be bothered making a defence, seeing as I'm pretty sure you guys have made up your minds to lynch me, but I'll see how I'm feeling later today (I'm about to head into uni.)

 

In the meantime, I'm innocent, you meanies, OMGUS, Lyner is my top suspect even though he's dead, etc etc etc.

If you are town you should absolutely defend yourself and share your thoughts.

If you are town you should absolutely defend yourself and share your thoughts.

What he said.

 

Vote Count:

Kitkat16 (1): The Warrior,

Electric Mango (0):

Rafay (0):

iSocialism (0):

The Warrior (0):

Finster Baby (0):

 

No lynch:

 

Not voting: Electric Mango, Rafay, Kitkat16, Finster Baby, iSocialism,

 

With 6 alive, it takes 4 to lynch, or 2 at deadline.

Deadline is Friday, April 14, at 08:00 EDT.

 

This is crunch time folks. We likely don't get another chance after today. The town needs to be talking.

 

@EM, iSoc, and Rafay - Please weigh in.

Maybe this will get KitKat16 to weigh in, since he seems to think defending himself is just an option:

 

VOTE: KitKat16

 

The more you clam up, the more convinced LordSunday knew something.

I feel like the town is being pressured to vote for kit kat. It was a Day 1 joke vote. Big whoop.

 

I think tW is scum and I don't know who else. I have been suspicious of him for a while. They probably did not night kill me because it would make tW look guilty.

 

Why is he still alive? Wouldn't the bad guys have killed him by now? It's my understanding that he is a prime target for sum. Weird that he's still here.

I don't believe that you're scum EM because I still think that scum wouldn't be openly pushing for me knowing what it would do if I was lynched, but you are certainly wrong about me. Of course, you could be the second scum and are now trying to openly make a case to get me lynched because you know that would end the game and there wouldn't be another day for the town to go after you. Any wagon built today without any evidence other than "you are scum because you've been suspicious of this guy since he acted suspiciously on day 1" should be highly scrutinized. At least there are reasons to lynch KitKat other than "he's going after someone he thinks is scum".

 

And I have been here this entire game making a case against people that are either lurking in the background or have acted suspicious in a concrete way. Where have you been the whole game? What have you contributed to the town's cause other than pushing for me because I have a strong scum feeling about a player who has been suspicious?

 

Also I feel like you're conveniently avoiding the fact that LordSunday came up as being a cop and was suspicious of and pushing for KitKat. If you were the cop and had clear suspicion of KitKat on day 1, would you not investigate him at night? I certainly would have.

Busy weekend, sorry guys, I was at least able to read the thread. I didn't want to comment, because I wanted the time to type it out.

First and foremost

Kitkat is the biggest suspect. Everyone should see that Lordsunday was the cop and was suspicious of KK. Voting for him today does not rule someone out from being scum. Not even FOSing.  The main thing In my mind. Is the day before

 

Robert2424 (3): Rafay, Kitkat16, Finster Baby,
Electric Mango (2): iSocialism, Robert2424,
Kitkat16 (1): LordSunday,

 

Not voting: Electric Mango, The Warrior,

 

There was no push for KK at the end besides by LS (now cop). If robert would have flipped scum, it would be a different story for KK right now, even town creed for the other two. That is not how it happen. If i was in KK position, I would have voted for Robert or EM.

KK flipping scum, would just go to show that he is scum. Finding the next person would be the greater question. I could twist and turn the last vote to whom ever I thought was scummy. I could make a case for anyone besides LS and Robert, because they're dead. I believe KK to be scum. and his lynch imminent. I always play worst case scenario, which would be. No more PRs. Mislynch today, and it's gg. KK is the least likely to be a mislynch. Now that we see LS push and his role, we can at least get one.

 

So right now KK is at L2, meaing if he was town, and FB and TW were town. The scum would rush his wagon for the win.

Hasn't happen, so IMO not likely.

KK is town and TW and FB or scum trying to get an push going for KK.  FTW.

Two great players not putting it pass them, but I wouldn't think they've execute it like that.

KK is scum and TW or FB is scum as well.

likely, but would lean toward FB.

KK is scum and TW and FB are town.

I lean more towards this way.

 

My list from least scummiest/likely to be scum to most.

TW, has been stepping on everyone toes, while not full throttle, enough to make me happy.

FB, explain a little bit more below

Rafay, was active, now invisible, defended KK. More to come

EM, hasn't really done a whole lot in my mind, just plays passive-aggressive IMO on votes.

KK, I shouldn't have to say.

 

Now my grouping (with KK being number one scum)

KK and Rafay, rafya has defended KK, and voted for robert instead of KK.

KK and EM, EM has been quiet IMO, hasn't push for anyone's vote, but still stay active enough. Hasn't put a lot of pressure on KK, still trying to toss heat at TW.

KK and FB, I believe FB called out captain( now kk) on d1, and has been slightly pushing for his lynch.

KK and TW, Cpt put the 3rd vote on TW, TW put pressure on him, and since that. While it could be an elaborate plan. It;s very doubtful.

scum day talk is not Kevin style. more of a TW thing. They would have been no coordinating for this. I also wouldn't think Capt would seek a replacement if it was a plan.

 

All of this wall of text, rambling, and pointless talking. Is just me getting my idea out. Rafay, and EM are likely to be the next scum after KK, if KK is not scum, it's already GG. I'm not counting on a doctor, so when KK flips scum, scum will get a kill in the night.

We will be at 3v1 the next day. Also meaning a mis-lynch equals a lost, or a tie I don't how 1v1 works. Which leads me to this radical vote

 

Vote EM

You're still putting pressure on TW, trying to sway the town to think of him as scum. There;s more to my vote, but I can't say. TACTICS

Maybe this will get KitKat16 to weigh in, since he seems to think defending himself is just an option:

 

VOTE: KitKat16

 

The more you clam up, the more convinced LordSunday knew something.

 

No, I don't see defending myself as just an option. I simply wondered whether it was pointless rereading the entire thread (which, by the way, I haven't done, as I'm a bit busy atm) and making a defence seeing as you clearly have your hearts set on lynching me.

 

As to LordSunday's vote on me: I can only say that it's less than certain that he investigated me on the first night. We have no certain evidence of that. What I did on the first day was simply not *THAT* suspicious. It's entirely possible that LordSunday, say, visited someone else and they weren't scum, so he had no suspects. 

 

In fact, in LordSunday's shoes, even if I did find me suspicious on the first day I wouldn't have visited me overnight. By that point, I was already a suspect. Given the risk of being killed overnight I would want to find more information about the scum as soon as possible. I'd have visited the people who posted before me/ captain in that thread to corroborate TW's theory that I/ captain just followed my scum buddy, where I suspect he found that whoever he investigated was not scum. (Why do I suspect that? Because I know that TW's theory that I was following my scum buddy *is not true*.) At the very least, I'd have visited someone else to get information as quickly as possible.

 

I'm tired of being harried from pillar to post for a couple of noob errors on the first day. I've done nothing suspicious since then. There's a lot here that makes me seem more suspicious than I am:

 

1) Yes, I voted for Robert. I wasn't the hammer vote, nor did I initiate killing him in particular. Rafay was the one to suggest killing him.

 

2) Yes, LordSunday got killed overnight after having voted for me. But assuming I was scum I had no way of knowing that he was the cop. The fact that the cop got killed is an unhappy coincidence. In fact, the fact that he was killed after voting for me suggests to me that I'm *not* a scum, as I wouldn't be so foolish as to incriminate myself by a retaliatory assassination. I'd have gone for some random person with no connection to myself.

 

Following on from that, I wonder if in fact the scum killed LS to frame me. Which leads into the next part of what I have to say. TW has pushed so hard over most of this game to lynch me over a couple of noob errors early on. I don't know for sure whether the scum were out to frame me. But if they were, it fits with my budding theory that TW might be a scum. He's quite a strategic thinker, it is the sort of thing he might do. I also do find it suspicious frankly that after two nights he is still alive. If his theorising were as accurate as he purports, I'd have killed him already if I were scum (which is in fact apparently normal in these games, given that he is such a good player.)

 

FoS TW